Ooops! There is no Veeva board...hehehehe...and they can't "partner" with salesforce.com to use theirs - cause they don't have one either!!!!
VeevaSystems vs. CegedimDendrite
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Ooops! There is no Veeva board...hehehehe...and they can't "partner" with salesforce.com to use theirs - cause they don't have one either!!!!
Long time reader - 1st time poster here.
Here is my question for the CegedimDendrite defender;
If Veeva's business model is so wrong, then why are they kicking your a55 all over the Pharma industry?
Here is my question for the CegedimDendrite defender;
If Veeva's business model is so wrong, then why are they kicking your a55 all over the Pharma industry?
Oracle maybe...Cegedim, I don't think so! Go check your facts...
There's a difference between defending CD and ragging on Veeva, the "hum6le" company.
Sounds good. Does it work?
I work for anofi Aventis and we are having a TERRIBLE time with alignining the correct customers into our diabetes territories.
Can this Veeva company make this an easier process for us? We are DYIN out here!
I work for anofi Aventis and we are having a TERRIBLE time with alignining the correct customers into our diabetes territories.
Can this Veeva company make this an easier process for us? We are DYIN out here!
@SaaV Employee -
No, Veeva is a CRM or SFA platform. With this it is a garbage in, garbage out situation. If your data is not going into a CRM in good shape it will not come out in good shape.
You need to do a territory targeting & alignment project - look to ZS, MarketRx, AdvantageMS or maybe HMS (if you don't read their board here
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It is a combination of data cleanup (USPS scrub, general cleanse and de-dupe), targeting and alignment.
No, Veeva is a CRM or SFA platform. With this it is a garbage in, garbage out situation. If your data is not going into a CRM in good shape it will not come out in good shape.
You need to do a territory targeting & alignment project - look to ZS, MarketRx, AdvantageMS or maybe HMS (if you don't read their board here
.It is a combination of data cleanup (USPS scrub, general cleanse and de-dupe), targeting and alignment.
...but that unemployed mid-level mngr DOES know what a second mortgage at the beach feels like
that boastful 7uck. theres too many like him out there.
Who cares?
Cegedim Dendrite and Veeva are wayyyy too expensive for what they really offer us in the industry.
Cegedim Dendrite and Veeva are wayyyy too expensive for what they really offer us in the industry.
REALLY!!! They -after all these years- are still JUST selling software seat licenses.
We are FOOLD for buyin it.
We are FOOLD for buyin it.
I ALMOST am not bothered by their expensive upfront costs because it's something which we agree to. It's the absurd and recurring hidden costs of their systems and lackluster support which is frustrating to me.
You are both probably cegedim or Veeva sales pukes. Just shut up already. We know how invaluable you have become at your rolls royce pricing. You dont get it
Wrong. But for you that's probably the norm. Go back to your cube and try to figure out why pharma is failing.
Yep. That was a sales kinda answer!
Go create something on your own, sales puke.
Go create something on your own, sales puke.
Amen brother-I got tired of payin for all those imports i'd see in their parking lot everytime i had a come to jesus meeting at their hq. Their main saas competitor is not any better. theyll soak you with servicing pricing
Enough is enough
Enough is enough
You're tired of paying for all of cegemim's import cars in their parking lot??
Hell, I'M tired of paying for all of their acqusitions!
It's funny how some of their sales pukes leave cegedimDendrite to create some new company with a perceived unique offering whilst creating a partner strategy with cegedimDendite which is strategically setup to be an acqusition; TargetSFA, SAI, Knowledgent, Skila, Optimizer, OpenQ..all just incremental little offerings which cegedim desperately pays dearly for in an acqusition (passsing that cost onto us customers). I'm not that foolish anymore. This organisation is just a washed up, bloated non innovator.
Hell, I'M tired of paying for all of their acqusitions!
It's funny how some of their sales pukes leave cegedimDendrite to create some new company with a perceived unique offering whilst creating a partner strategy with cegedimDendite which is strategically setup to be an acqusition; TargetSFA, SAI, Knowledgent, Skila, Optimizer, OpenQ..all just incremental little offerings which cegedim desperately pays dearly for in an acqusition (passsing that cost onto us customers). I'm not that foolish anymore. This organisation is just a washed up, bloated non innovator.
Is this a joke?
http://www.pharmafaceoff.com/episodes/co-pay-cards/clips/can-the-ipad-save-sales/play/
Is CD THAT out of touch with what we (your customers) face to think that a DEVICE in the hands of our sales teams would 'Save Pharma' ?? Really? REEEEALLY?
The guy who WAS in charge of CD innovation faced-off against the guy is is NOW the chief of technology strategy are bloviating about a device?
My god, people. How sad. How typical.
http://www.pharmafaceoff.com/episodes/co-pay-cards/clips/can-the-ipad-save-sales/play/
Is CD THAT out of touch with what we (your customers) face to think that a DEVICE in the hands of our sales teams would 'Save Pharma' ?? Really? REEEEALLY?
The guy who WAS in charge of CD innovation faced-off against the guy is is NOW the chief of technology strategy are bloviating about a device?
My god, people. How sad. How typical.
I think we all know that Cegedim is being beaten. Veeva has the story, the solution, and now the customer base. They have changed the landscape of CRM in pharma, and kudos to them for doing it so well. Cegedim could learn something from them.