People should not feel obligated to get vaccinated! Nor have their bosses giving them an ultimatum... vaccination or job! Going against my civil rights!!!!! Since that is all we hear about.
Vaccinate or Vacate
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Why not?? I have hospital systems that insist that I receive a flu vaccine if I am going to call on them. I have a choice to get one or not do the job. I am no fan of vaccines and actually turned down a job years ago because of the requirement to get a shot. In more recent years I have decided to get vaccines and take a hospital job. I have rights (and no one is going to hold me down and give me a vaccine) but nobody is obliged to allow me to participate in their companies or business if I don't get one. They also have rights to do what they deem necessary to protect themselves and their patients or customers.
We all agree to put aside some freedoms to participate in a functioning society together. You don't have to put on a shirt and shoes, but then you can't go into the restaurant to be served. We wear seat belts to protect ourselves and others. With the exception of NH you have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle. The choice we have is to not participate in things and you always have that right, but you don't have the right to do whatever you want.
You cost Lilly and extraordinary amount of money if you get sick with Covid and if you are spreading a virus to customers they have legal issues as well. They have every right to insist you get a vaccine to work here and you have every right not to and leave.
Well, last time I looked our society is in disarray. Also, a friend of mine wore a mask and got the shots and now in the hospital with Covid. Oh yes, did not know everyone can jump to job to job. I’m a single parent and my child’s needs come before mine!
I am very sorry to hear your friend is in the hospital even though they did what they could to protect themselves. I wish them all the best. Hopefully they will be ok. The odds are with them as only 10% of hospitalized patients have been vaccinated and only a fraction actually pass away. No vaccine is 100%. The vast majority are protected. The drugs we sell do not save everyone and the percentages helped are actually quite small, but we still promote them because the potential benefit is worth trying for. I know you don't believe it, but you (and your child) will be better protected vaccinated. All the best in your choices.
- Dave Brown Sep 06, 2021 at 06:33: PM
People SHOULD feel obligated to get vaccinated for the good of all (and to keep their job).
Totally fair and reasonable comment. Lets now tackle obesity. It costs Lilly and extraordinary amount of money when you get sick from complications. Its chronic, costing the company of years. The company has every right to insist you lose weight or leave.
It is not my obligation to do this for other people. I am vaccinated for myself and my family. Everyone needs some personal accountability.
I am so afraid of how quickly our culture has gone downhill in recent years.
Are we going to pretended that natural antibodies aren’t a thing? Plenty of people already had covid, myself included. I survived at home with no medical intervention. Why on earth would I need a vaccine? I have durable lasting immunity, T cell memory etc.
Have You seen what United airlines is doing with their employees who have a religious exemption from getting the Covid vaccine? They are putting them on unpaid leave until the pandemic calms down. Thoughts?
With the vaccine mandate, all the seniority positions will be opening up and all the toxic coworkers will be gone.
You hit the nail on the head! You guys are crazy if you believe this is about employee health and safety. It's a way for the company to rid themselves of long-term employees without having to implement another expensive VERP. Lilly has ALWAYS looked for ways to eliminate people before they reached full retirement (i.e., not the employees' choice). Cue yet another age discrimination lawsuit.
- Dave Brown Sep 11, 2021 at 08:34: AM
LOL! Sorry you choose to ascribe to conspiracy theories....
We're not eliminating anybody that is vaccinated. No age discrimination.
Dave Brown Either you don't actually work at Lilly or are a newbie. Might be a good idea to do some research before claiming conspiracy theories, e.g. "Older Workers Sue Eli Lilly for Age Discrimination" Older Workers Sue Eli Lilly for Age Discrimination
I have my eye on a few oncology field positions…. Should have taken the veto or RETIRE!
- Dave Brown Sep 12, 2021 at 07:31: AM
LOL! Two people suing because they can't get a job is nothing new. Sour grapes.
"completed phase 3 trials"...hahahahahahahahah...liar...educate yourself