Tivorbex Numbers?

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The above links are on the payers own paper.....this whole managed care is the issue is false.... there is enough access out there.....the question is do you have the knowledge and attitude to win? Only losers keep complaining.....
 






Coverage is fine, still not sure of the answer of, "is it more effect than generic diclofenac at $4?" "......I dunno.......PK."


anonymous said:
The above links are on the payers own paper.....this whole managed care is the issue is false.... there is enough access out there.....the question is do you have the knowledge and attitude to win? Only losers keep complaining.....
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anonymous said:
https://www.procarerx.com/docs/preferreddruglist/2015 Preferred Medication List 1st Quarter.pdf
https://pbm.aetna.com/portal/asset/2015_Value_2TierOpen.pdf
https://pbm.aetna.com/portal/asset/2015_Value_5TierOpen.pdf
https://pbm.aetna.com/portal/asset/2015_ValuePlus_4TierOpen.pdf
http://client.formularynavigator.com/Search.aspx?siteCode=3039700881&targetScreen=drugBrandList&drugBrandListBaseKey=zorvolex+35+mg+capsule
http://file.anthem.com/37041CAMENABC.pdf
https://www.myprime.com/content/dam...L/2015_NC_611_ExchangeEnhancedFormulary5T.pdf
https://www.myprime.com/content/dam...ms/IVL/2015_AL_635_StandardPrescriptionDL.pdf
http://www.bcbsil.com/PDF/rx/rx-drug-list-std-5tier-il-2015.pdf
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4 posts in a row. Too bad they are all from the same guy. The coverage stinks.
 


















anonymous said:
The real loser is the guy acting like a rep who wasted an hour posting links on managed care. Good job nerd.
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Wow, another post from a good for nothing loser who complains more than trying to share information and try to get things done. I appreciate the fact some people are on here to share information and try to make things better rather than being a good for nothing derogatory douchebag.
 






anonymous said:
Wow, another post from a good for nothing loser who complains more than trying to share information and try to get things done. I appreciate the fact some people are on here to share information and try to make things better rather than being a good for nothing derogatory douchebag.
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Cafe Pharma is for sharing information and getting things done? Since when? Nice try loser.
 






anonymous said:
Wow, another post from a good for nothing loser who complains more than trying to share information and try to get things done. I appreciate the fact some people are on here to share information and try to make things better rather than being a good for nothing derogatory douchebag.
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BTW. My husband thinks you are a nerd and a loser.
 






headline News:
If you are at Inventiv selling this crap for Iroko, guess what- you are a loser! This is low science, scalping of healthcare dollars with zero true gain in outcomes. It's all smoke and mirrors bullshit
 






anonymous said:
headline News:
If you are at Inventiv selling this crap for Iroko, guess what- you are a loser! This is low science, scalping of healthcare dollars with zero true gain in outcomes. It's all smoke and mirrors bullshit
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I guess every asshole in the world needs a soap box. Iroko could have taken the shitty way out like horizon and tried to glue two generics together. But they spent a lot of money to follow the logic set forth by the fda and other agencies. Are they right? Who knows? But why spend your energy here being a total fucking negative asshole. Despite it all, its not easy to have critical conversations that asshole managers will view this n the wrong light. Yeah, I am attacking back at the 4th bullies who can only complain and berate. I also am not the biggest fans of holier than thou assholes who are gloating about their suburban success. Iroko has shut down whole cities when they realized despite the hard work, success was impossible. I don't might an adult conversation. I just hate when those whose mentalities never escaped middle school feel the need to interrupt a conversation. How do you even get through a ride along?
 






anonymous said:
I guess every asshole in the world needs a soap box. Iroko could have taken the shitty way out like horizon and tried to glue two generics together. But they spent a lot of money to follow the logic set forth by the fda and other agencies. Are they right? Who knows? But why spend your energy here being a total fucking negative asshole. Despite it all, its not easy to have critical conversations that asshole managers will view this n the wrong light. Yeah, I am attacking back at the 4th bullies who can only complain and berate. I also am not the biggest fans of holier than thou assholes who are gloating about their suburban success. Iroko has shut down whole cities when they realized despite the hard work, success was impossible. I don't might an adult conversation. I just hate when those whose mentalities never escaped middle school feel the need to interrupt a conversation. How do you even get through a ride along?
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You are on the wrong site. Go back to Craig's List. Loser.
 
























anonymous said:
I guess every asshole in the world needs a soap box. Iroko could have taken the shitty way out like horizon and tried to glue two generics together. But they spent a lot of money to follow the logic set forth by the fda and other agencies. Are they right? Who knows? But why spend your energy here being a total fucking negative asshole. Despite it all, its not easy to have critical conversations that asshole managers will view this n the wrong light. Yeah, I am attacking back at the 4th bullies who can only complain and berate. I also am not the biggest fans of holier than thou assholes who are gloating about their suburban success. Iroko has shut down whole cities when they realized despite the hard work, success was impossible. I don't might an adult conversation. I just hate when those whose mentalities never escaped middle school feel the need to interrupt a conversation. How do you even get through a ride along?
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Easy tuna try some pasta
 












Read the FDA statement - it says that it should be the lowest effective dose that meets the patients needs (not a low dose that is equivalent to a generic diclofenac).

When a patient presents with joint pain or back pain, he doesnt say I need the pain relief offered by generic diclofenac or ibuprofen or naproxen. What he needs is pain relief from his symptoms. And what has been demonstrated with Zorvolex is that patients with OA, who had base WOMAC scores of >40 showed that they had significant reduction in pain, stiffness etc. The quantum of reduction seen with Zorvolex was similar to what has been generally demonstrated in other OA studies with other NSAIDs - Celebrex, diclofenac or meloxicam.

What is important is that a high percentage of patients achieved substantial pain relief which is why they came to the physician in the first place. They achieved that at the lowest doses of diclofenac used.

This obsession with head to head with generic diclofenac has no practical meaning or relevance. I am not the physicians do not ask those questions. But however, if you answer them like the above, they see the stupidity of their question. I have stated these to physicians, including experts, across the US and have won them over
 






anonymous said:
Read the FDA statement - it says that it should be the lowest effective dose that meets the patients needs (not a low dose that is equivalent to a generic diclofenac).

When a patient presents with joint pain or back pain, he doesnt say I need the pain relief offered by generic diclofenac or ibuprofen or naproxen. What he needs is pain relief from his symptoms. And what has been demonstrated with Zorvolex is that patients with OA, who had base WOMAC scores of >40 showed that they had significant reduction in pain, stiffness etc. The quantum of reduction seen with Zorvolex was similar to what has been generally demonstrated in other OA studies with other NSAIDs - Celebrex, diclofenac or meloxicam.

What is important is that a high percentage of patients achieved substantial pain relief which is why they came to the physician in the first place. They achieved that at the lowest doses of diclofenac used.

This obsession with head to head with generic diclofenac has no practical meaning or relevance. I am not the physicians do not ask those questions. But however, if you answer them like the above, they see the stupidity of their question. I have stated these to physicians, including experts, across the US and have won them over
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Bullshit...you won them over! You and I both know that's complete bullshit
 






anonymous said:
Read the FDA statement - it says that it should be the lowest effective dose that meets the patients needs (not a low dose that is equivalent to a generic diclofenac).

When a patient presents with joint pain or back pain, he doesnt say I need the pain relief offered by generic diclofenac or ibuprofen or naproxen. What he needs is pain relief from his symptoms. And what has been demonstrated with Zorvolex is that patients with OA, who had base WOMAC scores of >40 showed that they had significant reduction in pain, stiffness etc. The quantum of reduction seen with Zorvolex was similar to what has been generally demonstrated in other OA studies with other NSAIDs - Celebrex, diclofenac or meloxicam.

What is important is that a high percentage of patients achieved substantial pain relief which is why they came to the physician in the first place. They achieved that at the lowest doses of diclofenac used.

This obsession with head to head with generic diclofenac has no practical meaning or relevance. I am not the physicians do not ask those questions. But however, if you answer them like the above, they see the stupidity of their question. I have stated these to physicians, including experts, across the US and have won them over
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You are obviously not a rep. Any idiot can use Google and type in the word Tivorbex. Look at the 7th selection down and read what was written in The Medical Letter. This is what they had to say about Tivorbex and please offer a response:
"The problem with Tivorbex is the same as the problem with Zorvolex: there are no studies comparing its efficacy to that of standard doses of indomethacin or to any other NSAID. In addition, indomethacin is generally considered one of the most potent NSAIDs and one of those most likely to cause GI bleeding, increase cardiovascular risk, and damage the kidneys. There is no good reason to use indomethacin in any dosage for treatment of mild to moderate pain."
 






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