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Patient1 said:
Actually, I misspoke. I should have referred to this thread and the thread with 650+ idiotic comments when I was replying to your cognitive impairment statement. I stand corrected.

However, admonishing me about making assumptions is laughable since the threads for which I refer are riddled with foolish and endless assumptions.

I am sure Biogen employs people with MS. So maybe my point about being disrespectful and diminishing to patients should be considered. After all it is the MS patient that is responsible for a decent portion of the company revenues that pay your salary and keeps you employed (I assume you work for Biogen). Otherwise you'd have to be asking people if they want fries with that.
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It's hard to follow your line of thinking.

Anyway, I didn't say anything about cognitive impairment.

You made an incorrect assumption. When you excuse it by referencing the other foolish assumptions on this board, you just lump yourself in with those other posters.

Really? How much do you pay Teva out of pocket every year to get Copaxone?

Biogen's revenues come from creating and delivering products that help people with MS. In other words, the revenues come from the fact that there are people who, unfortunately, are dealing with a disease, and people at Biogen devoted the intelligence and hard work to create solutions that make their lives a little better.

So, no, the companies revenues don't really come from people with MS, and people with MS wouldn't be paying my salary and keeping me employed, even if I worked at Biogen.

Lastly, you can rest assured, most of the people at Biogen wouldn't be working in fast food if it weren't for their products that treat MS. Maybe you need to flip through some Biogen resumes. If I were at Biogen, I'd be happy to see us cure MS and then move on to new challenges.

So, more baseless, angry assumptions by you.
 








You made an incorrect assumption. When you excuse it by referencing the other foolish assumptions on this board, you just lump yourself in with those other posters
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I couldn't help but notice yet another comment of convenience from you, Sunshine. Is this from the same person who insists that I'm joe and patient1? You'd better get your accusations straight, you toad...I can't be all of the people you say that I am plus lumping myself in with those other posters!!

Spin, deny, accuse, lie....more Sunshine signature :))))
 




Anonymous said:
It's hard to follow your line of thinking.

Anyway, I didn't say anything about cognitive impairment.

You made an incorrect assumption. When you excuse it by referencing the other foolish assumptions on this board, you just lump yourself in with those other posters.

Really? How much do you pay Teva out of pocket every year to get Copaxone?

Biogen's revenues come from creating and delivering products that help people with MS. In other words, the revenues come from the fact that there are people who, unfortunately, are dealing with a disease, and people at Biogen devoted the intelligence and hard work to create solutions that make their lives a little better.

So, no, the companies revenues don't really come from people with MS, and people with MS wouldn't be paying my salary and keeping me employed, even if I worked at Biogen.

Lastly, you can rest assured, most of the people at Biogen wouldn't be working in fast food if it weren't for their products that treat MS. Maybe you need to flip through some Biogen resumes. If I were at Biogen, I'd be happy to see us cure MS and then move on to new challenges.

So, more baseless, angry assumptions by you.
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Not surprising you can't follow my line of thinking. You have difficulty following any line of thinking.

Again, you make many assumptions. Let me list

1. I have a co-pay for copaxone
2. I was referring to all of Biogen employees when I was referring directly to you - I am sure there are many talented people at Biogen - you're probably not one of them
3. I am angry

Furthermore, you argument is secular. Because there are MS patients, regardless of whose pocket the money comes from, their existence is still responsible for a large portion Biogen's revenue. Perhaps you should be more respectiful to them. It is not an easy chronic illness to deal with. I know first hand.

I am also no longer going to engage in this dialogue with you. It is extraordinarily non-productive and I have many better things to do. However, please feel free to come back and make some further assumptions.

As for me, I have no desire to duel with an unarmed person.
 




Anonymous said:
Biogen actually has drugs that work,unlike Teeva
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Copaxone works quite well for some and not for others. News flash Avonex works for some and not for others. In spite of the efficacy of Tysabri it also does not seem to help some. It also comes with some side effects that may concern patients.

Novartis has a new oral - that's great. It is also not going to work for all with MS. It's long-term safety is also a little questionable right now. Where there is risk however, there is great reward.

Can't we all just be greatful that there are options and that hopefully patients will find a therapy that works for them.

I am just greatful I found one that works well for me. Just because it is not produced by Biogen, why is that such a problem? There's plenty of market out there for everyone.

I happen to be a fairly decent shareholder in Biogen as well as Teva as well as a couple of other pharma/biotech. I also have holdings in many other markets. If anyone knows the joys of marketshare - it's me!
 




Patient1 said:
Not surprising you can't follow my line of thinking. You have difficulty following any line of thinking.

Again, you make many assumptions. Let me list

1. I have a co-pay for copaxone
2. I was referring to all of Biogen employees when I was referring directly to you - I am sure there are many talented people at Biogen - you're probably not one of them
3. I am angry

Furthermore, you argument is secular. Because there are MS patients, regardless of whose pocket the money comes from, their existence is still responsible for a large portion Biogen's revenue. Perhaps you should be more respectiful to them. It is not an easy chronic illness to deal with. I know first hand.

I am also no longer going to engage in this dialogue with you. It is extraordinarily non-productive and I have many better things to do. However, please feel free to come back and make some further assumptions.

As for me, I have no desire to duel with an unarmed person.
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Ah, yes, you're bowing out now. You have many better things to do. Well, guess what. You came here and started this thread to begin with. No one asked you to get involved and start spewing your admitted anger at everyone.

I have difficulty following your line of thinking? Maybe that's because you can't even put a simple thought together:

To quote: "2. I was referring to all of Biogen employees when I was referring directly to you - I am sure there are many talented people at Biogen - you're probably not one of them."

Huh? I think you mean you WEREN'T referring to all Biogen employees.

Yes, I fully agree. Can't we all "just be gratefull" that there are treatment options. Who said anything about it being a problem that you don't use a Biogen drug? I sure didn't. You came here and started trashing people. I'm thrilled a drug is working for you.

Bottom line: Why don't you take your own advice and be gratefull that so many people devoted the time, effort, money and intelligence to create treatment options for you?

We've had this conversation before. It obviously didn't sink it.

Just say "thank you" and move on.
 




Anonymous said:
Ah, yes, you're bowing out now. You have many better things to do. Well, guess what. You came here and started this thread to begin with. No one asked you to get involved and start spewing your admitted anger at everyone.
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Hey Sunshine, have you finally figured it out that I am NOT Patient1? Took you long enough, didn't it??!! You thought you were so smug at telling everyone that I was 3 different people despite me stating otherwise. How many times have I pointed out to you how wrong you are in so many of your comments.? I'm sure you'll respond to this with some of your signature spin, Sunshine...you are so good at that :))))))
 




Anonymous said:
Hey Sunshine, have you finally figured it out that I am NOT Patient1? Took you long enough, didn't it??!! You thought you were so smug at telling everyone that I was 3 different people despite me stating otherwise. How many times have I pointed out to you how wrong you are in so many of your comments.? I'm sure you'll respond to this with some of your signature spin, Sunshine...you are so good at that :))))))
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joe, you really need to figure out who's posting what. Go back to your video games.
 












Anonymous said:
Ah, yes, you're bowing out now. You have many better things to do. Well, guess what. You came here and started this thread to begin with. No one asked you to get involved and start spewing your admitted anger at everyone.

I have difficulty following your line of thinking? Maybe that's because you can't even put a simple thought together:

To quote: "2. I was referring to all of Biogen employees when I was referring directly to you - I am sure there are many talented people at Biogen - you're probably not one of them."

Huh? I think you mean you WEREN'T referring to all Biogen employees.

Yes, I fully agree. Can't we all "just be gratefull" that there are treatment options. Who said anything about it being a problem that you don't use a Biogen drug? I sure didn't. You came here and started trashing people. I'm thrilled a drug is working for you.

Bottom line: Why don't you take your own advice and be gratefull that so many people devoted the time, effort, money and intelligence to create treatment options for you?

We've had this conversation before. It obviously didn't sink it.

Just say "thank you" and move on.
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Dude, thank you.

I mean I thought I was an stupid. You make me feel smart.

Been watchin post wars for a while. Dude you don't read so good.

Your mama must put you on the little bus to get you to work.
 












Anonymous said:
Dude I aint smart but you don't read good. You say people write things that ain't there. My english is no so good but I can even see that.

Dude get on your little bus and go to work
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Dude, you're so right. I must be seeing things with all those direct quotes taken from actual posts. Only a genius like you would recognize that those posts written above are clearly a mirage.
 




Anonymous said:
Dude, you're so right. I must be seeing things with all those direct quotes taken from actual posts. Only a genius like you would recognize that those posts written above are clearly a mirage.
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Dude what quotes. You only take a little and pretend something else is there.

Read the list dude. Those you assumptions. Chop complete quote and wash out meaning for your purpose. My english aint good but even I see dude.

I don't know the word but you should put stuff for politics election. Dude good job change meaning of words.

Person say you assume they are angry. Person say you assume talking about everyone when just meant you,

Get on the short bus. Never mind work go to school. Learn to read.
 




You're right. Your English sucks (even when you aren't pretending to be someone else). So, let me repeat the direct quotes to which I was responding.

Quote 1: "I was referring to all of Biogen employees when I was referring directly to you - I am sure there are many talented people at Biogen - you're probably not one of them."

My response: Huh? I think you mean you WEREN'T referring to all Biogen employees.

Quote 2: "I am angry."

My response: You admit you are angry.

Yeah, I really took those out of context...dude.

Instead of making stupid jokes about school buses, you should be studying for the TOEFL.
 




You're right. Your English sucks (even when you aren't pretending to be someone else). So, let me repeat the direct quotes to which I was responding.

Quote 1: "I was referring to all of Biogen employees when I was referring directly to you - I am sure there are many talented people at Biogen - you're probably not one of them."

My response: Huh? I think you mean you WEREN'T referring to all Biogen employees.

Quote 2: "I am angry."

My response: You admit you are angry.

Yeah, I really took those out of context...dude.

Instead of making stupid jokes about school buses, you should go study for the TOEFL.

...Even though English is your first language.
 




Anonymous said:
I know something else that's idiotic, someone looking for information about PML on cafepharma.
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I haven't posted here before, but I am another of several MS patients who do not come to this board to find information about PML, but to witness the disrespect that Biogen employees have for the people they are allegedly trying to help. Carry on showing your true colors.
 




Anonymous said:
I haven't posted here before, but I am another of several MS patients who do not come to this board to find information about PML, but to witness the disrespect that Biogen employees have for the people they are allegedly trying to help. Carry on showing your true colors.
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Replying to something someone posted in November of last year? Really? Seriously?

Oh, please. As if you aren't seeing plenty of "disrespect" from the competing sales rep who's been posting here for years, selfishly insisting patients should lose their therapy of choice just because it's from Biogen.

Funny. He loves to use the phrase "true colors," too. Quite a coincidence.

If you think some lame, anonymous chatboard debate proves anything about what employees at Biogen are like, then you keep on thinking that.
 




Oh, please. As if you aren't seeing plenty of "disrespect" from the competing sales rep who's been posting here for years, selfishly insisting patients should lose their therapy of choice just because it's from Biogen.
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As is so typical, Sunshine, you are again lying to the readers. Seems to be a constant trait you have. I'm not a competing sales rep and I have NEVER stated that a MS patient should lose their choice of therapy. You make statements of convenience without regard to facts that others state. You should be embarrassed with your lying...then again, isn't that what Biogen is best at when it comes to promoting Tysabri??!!
 




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