The real story behind Kindler

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The patient is waiting...gag me with a flipping spoon. That is one of the stupidest, corniest lines ever. I think it came out of PD3 or one of those other lame ass divisions. I agree this is all shameful and what a bunch of losers these people are; It shows how badly our leadership has indeed crumbled. Character does matter and we continue to have a serious lack thereof. The people of Pfizer are waiting for leadership, but I fear it is too late as anyone who stands up to the total nonsense of today gets taken out. SDs, RM, reps, everyone is forced to play a game because their bosses are all out for themselves and they manage by fear and by mind games.
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Random thoughts from the trenches:
Leadership continues to beat around the bush and change their direction every 2 seconds. Detrol is in, Detrol is out. Drop Lipitor and sell others, ride lipitor, maybe we should incent people on things other than sales, no it must be on sales. Upsize, cut, upsize, restructure, every year. The lack of decisive action as documented about Kindler is evident in today's leadership as much as ever. It is because we had such a brain drain that the people charged with making the calls are weak decision makers with a lack of knowledge and wisdom, and they are very arrogant and condescending to the people who have been around a long time and actually have excellent insight as to what to do based on seeing many of these things done before with either success or failure. Unfortunately the arrogant think the veterans are too "old school" for today. Woe is to them and the company: Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. A rudderless ship or a rudder that keeps changing direction, doesn't matter which, both are catastrophic. Look to the people who are truly moving their ship forward and can explain why. Look for the people who have a consistent track record of hitting numbers. Go learn from them. If they are new and don't know why, it isn't them that you should be talking to. Find and reward the doers. Basic Business 101!
 




arrogance, yes. I sit on a rep council where we all walked away stunned at people who never played the game, think they know it. If they would just listen instead of totally pimping us. We aren't stupid. They set up questions and run with stuff that fits their agenda. Its such a dog and poney show.
 




Anonymous said:
arrogance, yes. I sit on a rep council where we all walked away stunned at people who never played the game, think they know it. If they would just listen instead of totally pimping us. We aren't stupid. They set up questions and run with stuff that fits their agenda. Its such a dog and poney show.
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I am not surprised. It has been that way for the past decade. Remember the TACU? We had a room full of manager's from every division to include managed care. At one meeting I counted over 20 people in the room. We spent hours working on the WORDING in a business plan so the regional manager's could grade it. The end result? TACU of the year that won ACE POINTS and a trip someplace. We did this exercise every single month it seemed.
 




Anonymous said:
arrogance, yes. I sit on a rep council where we all walked away stunned at people who never played the game, think they know it. If they would just listen instead of totally pimping us. We aren't stupid. They set up questions and run with stuff that fits their agenda. Its such a dog and poney show.
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OMG! YES!
I was on council two years ago. When asked if I would like to return, I declined.
The reason I declined was for the EXACT reason you stated..dog/pony show.
I told my RM that I would love to serve if, in-put was solicited by & acted upon by mgt.
As opposed to mgt coming in to ask us to sell THEIR plan to others in the field.
Bad deal all around.
 
















I am pissed! Pfizer sales reps are worried about their jobs, we are out there in the blistering heat, frigid cold, rain, tornadoes, dust storms, exposed to crazy drivers, even MRSA at doctors offices, we work our a..!!! off and our leaders are being flown on helicopters, eating at great restaurants and acting like children. What the f...., who brings the bacon!! Get rid of all those worthless executives please!
 








There are too many management layers in this company, that's were you trim the fat. Too many DM, VP, King, Managed Care, Marketing, Paper Pushers. Tell Bill Steere we need to rent out his office, no helicopters, no airplanes, no coffee, no water, you all buy your own. Bring your own toilet paper. Clean offices once a week. Raise A/C, negotiate all services from insurance to pest control. You would be surprised how much you can save here and there and keep the employees that have direct contact with the physicians that prescribe our drugs.
 




Maybe they'll do something about FHL now (head of Pfizer Medical) last years travel budget was over 8MM and she's done nothing but mess the organization up.

But based on this article the BOD and upper management have no idea what's going on... so my guess is that they'll increase her compensation while we get RIF'ed
 




Anonymous said:
The sad thing about this story is that Kindler destroyed the lives of so many dedicated Pfizer employees during this tenure. Many who devoted their whole life to doing a good job and were terminated for no reason at all. Only to be replaced by someone, quite honestly, might not have been as talented and dedicated as they were. While Kindler enjoys his millions in severance, thousands of other ex-employee still struggle over how they were treated after years of loyal service.
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Well said. I feel the same way and it's nice to know there are good people out there who feel the same way.
 




















Anonymous said:
I am pissed! Pfizer sales reps are worried about their jobs, we are out there in the blistering heat, frigid cold, rain, tornadoes, dust storms, exposed to crazy drivers, even MRSA at doctors offices, we work our a..!!! off and our leaders are being flown on helicopters, eating at great restaurants and acting like children. What the f...., who brings the bacon!! Get rid of all those worthless executives please!
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Sorry, dude. The news is...........................

1. We will always have a mega-expensive headquarters in Manhattan.
2. It will always be populated with worthless executives.
3. Those executives will never have a clue what's going on in the real world.
4. They will all be laid off eventually with multi-million dollar packages
5. More worthless executives will take their place

Welcome to the "free market" world that Americans all idiolize.
 




What!? This is the reason Pfizer blows? And all this time I was worried that not seeing my 7-12 decile providers a 172 times a quarter was the problem. Thats what my regional manager said was the problem. I feel better now.
 




One of the most brutal articles I have read in years.

The inmates are running the asylum. These people are power hungry cyborgs. CRAZY.

Oddly, the crazy people were pushing out the true talent such as Read.

It truly does trickle down from the top. I am not a Pfizer person, but always respected the brains and hard work the reps put in the field.

You can almost see the changes in the field from the time lines in this story.

The lady from HR was a nightmare. For the life of me, she was a strategic master.

From a dental hygienist to an assassin in less than ten years.
 








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