TENURE - How did it work last time - How will it work this time?

[Anonymous]

This is it.

Once again, and once far all, this is the formula. It has been for the last 5 downsizing/lay offs. Stop the noise this is it. God Bless, and Good Luck.

 

[Anonymous]

You are so wrong about this. If that was the case then everything would change like vacation etc.

I think there will be so many people that are going to be cut, no one will know what the criteria will be.

im not i was rehired and that was the deal. started all over

 

[Anonymous]

To the last post.......if you have to ask what a high salary is, then you're probably not making one.

Then I guess you don't know either!

 

[Anonymous]

im not i was rehired and that was the deal. started all over

I was rehired as well, but never heard anything like that.
I was told when I was hired back it was if I never left .
Who informed you of this?

 

[Anonymous]

If you are a rehire your tenure is reinstated. It is in the benefits brochure and you can call HR, but, it is in writing.

I only hope this reorg is different than the one Oncology just did. I was involved with the vendor and it was based on $$$$$$$ ( salary and pension) We let go top performers with great relationships. We kept new hires from the Onc 3, 4 expansion from a few years ago who had lower saleries and no Pension plans. We kept new managers, with no pensions, and got rid of 10-20 year Novartis managers ( who were great) with Pensions. It was aweful. The leadership in Oncology is all about cutting cost and nothing else. They are short termers so do they do not care about relationships for the futute. Not sure of the situation on the Tekturna side of the house.

 

[Anonymous]

Historically this is how it rolls out in order of priority.
1. Last years rating
2. location to new territory
3. tenure

Example:
Anyone with a 1 is gone, sorry but thats what happens. If both have a 2/2, then its a matter of who lives close to the most targets in the new territory. If both live equally close to the majority of targets in the new territory, then the last thing considered is tenure and the individual that has been around longer stays. Just remember ratings are the most important and anyone with a 3 will stay unless the other has a 3 then the before mentioned scenario will play out.

What sucks is if you have been a top performer for years but as you know top performer goals increase, and then you have a bad year along with bad timing of a layoff, well you know the rest of the story.

Just continue to work hard, be a professional, and be as much of a value to Novartis as possible in meeting or exceeding expectations per your roles and responsibilities. Then also prioritize time when you are away from work to get your resume in order and line up interviews in preparation for potential layoff.

God Bless, and Best Wishes.

The decisions are already made so it is just a matter of time right now. During last year's
layoff 2 counterparts on Long Island each had a 1 in sales on their review and one rep was retained and the other was layed off. The younger rep with a couple years with Novartis was retained and the other rep older with 10 years tenure and a multiple president's club winner was let go. Totally unfair shows some undue influence.

 

[Anonymous]

Picture this if you may and decide for yourself:

DISPLACED, 2011

Specialty Rep-9 1/2 years
Gen Med Rep-1.5 year (due to dissolvement of specialty except for Neuro and Onc.

Tenure-11 years
Age-52
Salary-110,+ (w2-157+)
National Awards-4 (1 Pres Club)
Vacation-4 weeks
Pension-11% of pay
Ratings-NO 1's

Displaced in city geographical area consisting of at least 12 reps. I was:

1. The oldest
2. Made fouth highest salary
3. Lived in the middle of the territory as did less tenured, lower paid reps with same ratings
4. was eligible for cornerstone
5. annual ranking for 2010 was 3/117

Do not tell me there is no rhyme or reason for their justification of who stays and who goes. The real justification has been hidden amongst all of the pontificated justifications by
1. Novartis
2. Posters that hear different rumors and post them to cause more anarchy.

Al I can say is that you better start looking outside of the industry, take what dignity you have left and protect yourself and your family financially, and realize that Dan Vaselina and Jose only care about their tens of millions in bonus, not you, your numbers, your company car, your manager, and yet alone, your family. You are expendable, especially if you have age and tenure.

Good luck to all of you remaining and do not upset yourselves more with CP splatter. Look at it for how it was done, who it was done to, and "it is what it is and Novartis does what they want with no regard for you. The bottom line is to save money in a declining and eroding culture with taking out the highest paid (usually reps that are tenured which means age).