shire sales reps to lose their jobs!!!

The KOS acquisition was a nightmare because Abbott tried to integrate KOS immediately and laid off their own instead, a lot of KOS quit and Abbott was surprised, so Solvay went down differently. Solvay was left alone with same territories, managers etc. No one was laid off from Solvay and Abbott seemed pleased with this process so I predict same with Shire. Solvay folks are now Abbvie so could be taking a hit, but most likely Shire will stay somewhat the same if they are following the Solvay acquisition model. The metabolics team (old Solvay) is overstaffed in most areas.
 






Time will tell but why fire all reps who have helped vyvanse achieve strong growth and have solid relationships and knowledge from before the investigation. Keep performing. Be the kind of person they want to keep

Where do you get this shit! You are not as valuable as you think.
After 1-2 yrs any drug is on autopilot. You are only there for samples, lunches, and that's about it. If you're necessary you have a shot at staying during phase one. Phase 2 is another thing altogether.
 












Welcome to AbbVie :))

I've been a rep, in this industry for 22 years...the past 8 years with Abbvie (formerly Abbott).

Abbvie is not Abbott. We have a nimble culture. AbbVie takes care of their people. Management treats their people with integrity and respect.

Cheers!

Save the bullshit for someone else HR asshole. Abbie will take care of itself first. Musical chairs will start soon and when the music stops we'll see how many are left standing.
Nimble?.....where did you get that buzzword? The only nimble thing that will be done is to axe as many people as they can as soon as they can w/o hurting profits. Stock goes up and everyone is happy.....except those of us w/o jobs.
Integrity and respect my ass!
 






You people need to calm down. The merger isn't even done for 6 months. I'm getting lots of recruiter calls but I'm not going to take some job with a drug going generic in 2 years when we have vyvanse til 2023, adderall XXR coming, binge eating disorder, etc. hiring and training new people makes no sense with all this upside in the very near figure. So stop letting these negative people freak you out. Panic has always been the theme on CP so if you want to panic, go for it but really there's no reason for it at this point
 






Sales is going to get slammed! Are you kidding me? The territories at Abbvie are crawling with reps who step all over each other. If Shires is at all similar., they are screwed too.
The U.S sales model is drastically changing. The reps role is being minimized due to restricted access, ACA and insurance co calling all the shots on what a doc can write.

A major merger like this will bring all that into the forefront. Those reps left standing will have huge territories and be far and few between.
Bottom line, a lot of reps will be cut esp on products that are several months post launch, even Humira. Reps are considered nothing but parasites in most medical circles who suck free time and repeat the same old shit. THey offer no more perks and record your name on a public website when you eat a $4 sandwich.

Not only will the sales reps be cut but also a lot of the bogus corporate jobs that are as meaningless and abstract as a 5 second hall call. No more room for waste. It's war out there.
 






Where do you get this shit! You are not as valuable as you think.
After 1-2 yrs any drug is on autopilot. You are only there for samples, lunches, and that's about it. If you're necessary you have a shot at staying during phase one. Phase 2 is another thing altogether.

The profits and margins are so high that the company can afford to use the reps and corporate bs jobs as a nice tax deduction. The employee cuts will be fierce.
 






The profits and margins are so high that the company can afford to use the reps and corporate bs jobs as a nice tax deduction. The employee cuts will be fierce.
Actually it's not on auto pilot. Our products are highly promotionally sensitive, if we weren't there all the time they would definitely use more generics. You are wrong! There will not be "fierce" cuts, where do you get this stuff? Our sales force is not too big, it's a good size and we have new product and new indication on horizon so take your fear tactics and move on...your probably a bitter old shire employee who was displaced. Get over it and move on!
 












Actually it's not on auto pilot. Our products are highly promotionally sensitive, if we weren't there all the time they would definitely use more generics. You are wrong! There will not be "fierce" cuts, where do you get this stuff? Our sales force is not too big, it's a good size and we have new product and new indication on horizon so take your fear tactics and move on...your probably a bitter old shire employee who was displaced. Get over it and move on!

OK! I feel so much better now.
You are so full of crap !
 






Overpaid, worthless. I hope there will be a day when all pharma reps become extinct. I took the big pay checks when I was there but it is a disgusting industry. How worthless can one feel at the end of each day? Oh, wait, I forget - you are changing lives. Rofl!
 






Overpaid, worthless. I hope there will be a day when all pharma reps become extinct. I took the big pay checks when I was there but it is a disgusting industry. How worthless can one feel at the end of each day? Oh, wait, I forget - you are changing lives. Rofl!

Why are you such a stroke stick? Why is it impossible as a sales professional to say I play a role in improving lives. If I sell curtain rods to Bed Bath and Beyond and I convince them to showcase my curtain rods and people buy and actually like them, did I not at least play a role in changing that individual's life? If I sell soft drinks to a grocery store and I persuade the manager to stock my product on an end shelf and someone picks it up and loves it. Did I not play a role in changing the life of that person? As hard as it is to believe, I have convinced Doctors to prescribe my product for a patient. Whether the decision was something I said, dropped off, or the way lunch tasted, it drove the decision. If I had not been there at that moment there is a chance that the patient might have gotten something different. It's really not that complicated or confusing.

You are a jaded idiot which looks at his purpose in life as bringing others down. Growing up, we called that person a horrible human being.
 






Overpaid, worthless. I hope there will be a day when all pharma reps become extinct. I took the big pay checks when I was there but it is a disgusting industry. How worthless can one feel at the end of each day? Oh, wait, I forget - you are changing lives. Rofl!

Yeah, we'll be extinct right after the polticians, bankers and mortgage brokers go out of business. At least what we peddle actually improves lives as opposed to bankrupting people.
 






Truth burns thy ass. Lol. Overpaid, whining, entitled, worthless, dumb, lazy, but great waiters and waitresses. Come on bitch, where is my Monday morning mocha latte venti? What do you tell your children you do as a career? Take orders for coffee? You should be ashamed. Worthless, dumb, lazy. No mistake. Clear. Like it or not. Perhaps the new company will set your soul free to be a productive member of society doing something important.
 






Why are you such a stroke stick? Why is it impossible as a sales professional to say I play a role in improving lives. If I sell curtain rods to Bed Bath and Beyond and I convince them to showcase my curtain rods and people buy and actually like them, did I not at least play a role in changing that individual's life? If I sell soft drinks to a grocery store and I persuade the manager to stock my product on an end shelf and someone picks it up and loves it. Did I not play a role in changing the life of that person? As hard as it is to believe, I have convinced Doctors to prescribe my product for a patient. Whether the decision was something I said, dropped off, or the way lunch tasted, it drove the decision. If I had not been there at that moment there is a chance that the patient might have gotten something different. It's really not that complicated or confusing.

You are a jaded idiot which looks at his purpose in life as bringing others down. Growing up, we called that person a horrible human being.


Oh, yes, I am a horrible human being. I know so many people who need real medications who can't even afford them. Yet you continue to receive a 6 figure income for doing NOTHING.

And it's factual that patients with this largely false diagnosis could do just as well on any number of the generics on the market. Once you accept the truth, it will set you free.

Growing up, we called morons like you morons - and still do.
 






Oh, yes, I am a horrible human being. I know so many people who need real medications who can't even afford them. Yet you continue to receive a 6 figure income for doing NOTHING.

And it's factual that patients with this largely false diagnosis could do just as well on any number of the generics on the market. Once you accept the truth, it will set you free.

Growing up, we called morons like you morons - and still do.

I wish I could see the look on your face if you knew who you were talking to
 












Oh, yes, I am a horrible human being. I know so many people who need real medications who can't even afford them. Yet you continue to receive a 6 figure income for doing NOTHING.

And it's factual that patients with this largely false diagnosis could do just as well on any number of the generics on the market. Once you accept the truth, it will set you free.

Growing up, we called morons like you morons - and still do.

You are talking in circles. If patients could do just as well on generics, then Doctors should only prescribe the generic. Unless you are saying that Sales Reps influence them to prescribe other higher priced medications. But, you aren't saying that because a few minutes ago you were ROFL at the idea that a Sales Rep makes any difference. I'm confused.
 






Why are you such a stroke stick? Why is it impossible as a sales professional to say I play a role in improving lives. If I sell curtain rods to Bed Bath and Beyond and I convince them to showcase my curtain rods and people buy and actually like them, did I not at least play a role in changing that individual's life? If I sell soft drinks to a grocery store and I persuade the manager to stock my product on an end shelf and someone picks it up and loves it. Did I not play a role in changing the life of that person? As hard as it is to believe, I have convinced Doctors to prescribe my product for a patient. Whether the decision was something I said, dropped off, or the way lunch tasted, it drove the decision. If I had not been there at that moment there is a chance that the patient might have gotten something different. It's really not that complicated or confusing.

You are a jaded idiot which looks at his purpose in life as bringing others down. Growing up, we called that person a horrible human being.

No, just a realist but if what you do makes you happy, congrats. Keep fooling yourself until it all blows up in your face. We need more happy, delusional people like you in this world.
It's people like you that are fooled into believing you are relevant that allows the perpetuation of the Pharma myth. You are a pawn to be discarded at the whim of the company that feeds you this crap. Don't worry, be happy. There is always welfare out there for you when you sell your curtain rods. I wish you well you naive fool.
 






You people need to calm down. The merger isn't even done for 6 months. I'm getting lots of recruiter calls but I'm not going to take some job with a drug going generic in 2 years when we have vyvanse til 2023, adderall XXR coming, binge eating disorder, etc. hiring and training new people makes no sense with all this upside in the very near figure. So stop letting these negative people freak you out. Panic has always been the theme on CP so if you want to panic, go for it but really there's no reason for it at this point

Recruiters are parasites. Don't feel special, you were one of a thousand call today.
Their industry is in worse shape than ours.
Being positive is great, but don't believe a thing until it actually happens.