Pernix would be lucky if any rep stays after the changes. Who are you kidding? At 40k salary with taxes is like $15/hr! And don't forget the scripts has to be written 8 ounces to get full commission. They hadn't changed jack for the better. Make more money with more products?? BS! Salary cuts by far is the way to get reps to start quittin left and right.
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What do you mean 8oz for full commission? It won't just be a flat rate commission per script?
I don't know how your territory works, butmy doctors aren't fond of 8oz they really only did it for the "$19" coupon.
I don't know how your territory works, butmy doctors aren't fond of 8oz they really only did it for the "$19" coupon.
pay per script will be prorated just like Reprexain was. An 8oz script will pay more than a 6oz or 4oz script. How much? I don't know. Does anybody?
How about y'all run Pernix! Seems like everyone on here knows the pay structure, who is selling what, who is taking the biggest losses, and y'all even got the pay per script down to a science. BRAVO! With all this effort it's no wonder y'all are top dogs at selling cough cold. Bunch of freakin genius'. Y'all are like little yoda's with all the answers. Can y'all tell me who killed JFK or where jimmy Hoffa is burried? I mean if Pernix needs to get an ouside company to come up with some algorithm to figure out commissions, coupons, and territories they wasted all that money. Because ladies and gentleman Hawthorn reps can piece it all together for you on cafepharma in two days. Novartis is wanting to contact whoever is the mastermind. They would love to hear how they are going to pay the reps with their new once a month insulin injection. If the patient only gets a one month supply vs a three month supply do they get a higher commission? Do tell?
How about you all run Pernix! Seems like everyone on here knows the pay structure, who is selling what, who is taking the biggest losses, and you all even got the pay per script down to a science. BRAVO! With all this effort, it's no wonder you all are top dogs at selling cough cold. Bunch of freakin genius'. You all are like, little yoda's with all the answers. Can you tell me who killed JFK or where jimmy Hoffa is burried? I mean if Pernix needs to get an ouside company to come up with some algorithm to figure out commissions, coupons, and territories they wasted all that money. Because ladies and gentleman Hawthorn reps can piece it all together for you on cafepharma in two days. Novartis is wanting to contact whoever is the mastermind. They would love to hear how they are going to pay the reps with their new once a month insulin injection. If the patient only gets a one month supply vs a three month supply do they get a higher commission? Do tell?
Thanks Coop. I would like to try and run the company.
I have been in the field for 1 year so let me run it. I'm about as qualified as this shit for brains little boy Cooper is. Bunch of morons running this company who have never even worked for a REAL company.
It's going to be funny when the pay structure is exactly as these posts say it's going to be
This will affect anyone making over 40k salary and those just happen to be the top reps in the company and who have been here for years. It's sad to reduce salaries to 40k who are busting and busted their ass to get the job done and run their territory. That's a big chunk out your paycheck. Good advice to managment would be to keep those reps salaries where it is if they want those reps to stick around. Otherwise like poster above said, I have my money on most of those reps looking elsewhere. With Vituz coming out, not a great time to piss reps off who know the cough and cold market more than any new rep would.
I agree. Cutting salaries only encourages reps to look somewhere else. Forget about competing for numbers. So they plan on cutting top reps back to 40k and moving those making less or who haven't been here long, up to 40k? Makes no sense!
I am amazed at how the managers of Pernix drink the kool aid. My manager doesn't do anything. Zero feedback and coaching. I only hear keep doing what you're doing if I hear anything at all. Vituz is a complete joke. I am going to finish whatever is left of cough cold season and jet. I want to cash out on the business I have built. Looking at my docs in the face and 'selling' them the benefits 
of Vituz sounds like a really fun thing to do. If I'm still here during summer I am upping my antidepressants. I am praying my final interview goes well so I can put this joke behind me. I can't wait to see what happens once our turds of other products keep bombing like they currently are (omeclamox)and see how awesome the managers or home office think our sales are During summer. I wonder what the spin will be then?? If you aren't looking than you have no vision or common sense. If you think Pernix is a place you can hang your hat long term then I have ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. Delusional idiots.
of Vituz sounds like a really fun thing to do. If I'm still here during summer I am upping my antidepressants. I am praying my final interview goes well so I can put this joke behind me. I can't wait to see what happens once our turds of other products keep bombing like they currently are (omeclamox)and see how awesome the managers or home office think our sales are During summer. I wonder what the spin will be then?? If you aren't looking than you have no vision or common sense. If you think Pernix is a place you can hang your hat long term then I have ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. Delusional idiots.I am amazed at how the managers of Pernix drink the kool aid. My manager doesn't do anything. Zero feedback and coaching. I only hear keep doing what you're doing if I hear anything at all. Vituz is a complete joke. I am going to finish whatever is left of cough cold season and jet. I want to cash out on the business I have built. Looking at my docs in the face and 'selling' them the benefits
JJ is the worst
Prorated? You can't make any money with that! This is BS. You'll need 20 or more scripts just to make 100 bucks!
didnt he get fired from the last place he was the nsd - weird. einstein's definition of insanity.....
Yet, they give Him control of the sales force.
If they in fact do slash salaries at 40k and give us bullshit $8 per script, you best believe EVERYBODY in the top 30% will be outta here!
So leave. Pernix knows we are all replaceable. Someone without Pharma experience would love to have our jobs. Management does not care if we quit. I know this job will help me get another one. You may think you are valuable to the company and sales will drop dramatically if you leave but that is not the case. They will find someone smarter, better looking, etc. Find other jobs!! We could be the replacement reps for another company.
Wow theyre cutting salaries too? This is sad for Hawthorn reps. Best to find something else. With another small pharma you can easily start $50k salary with $20k ave commiss n better perks. Don't sell yourself short!
You're right in that reps here are replaceable. But hiring people who can't sell cough and cold or with no sales background pharma or not, is partly the reason Hawthorn lost out in the end. So if reps do quit or go some place else, what person with any decent pharma experience be ok with 40k salary with such weak products?? Only a very few sales reps with no pharma background would even consider when it was Hawthorn. Look what happened when Hawthorn hired all those reps none are here anymore and some were fired within a month or two after hired and those territories went downhill big time. What makes you think it's atractive now with salaries cut prorated scripts and no perks?? Even worse now imo.
Hawthorn reps aren't the only reps gettin screwed! We Pernix reps make 40k start in high cost of living areas and barely make $50k a year.. The products in my division suck. And this is specialty pharma division. I've started looking last month. The products here are *hit and it's always gonna be like this as long as Pernix have dog *hit products. Better to go with another company that will pay you a straight salary that would cover Pernix salary AND COMMISSION!