recruiter called yesterday re: life vest







expansion territory
75K base
160K at plan
top reps making 300K+
$600 month car allowance

Sound legit?

Me: big pharma 16 years same company

Base and car allowance is legit. The 160 at plan and top reps making 300 is not. Your territory is set up so if you make goal you will hit 157K, but you won't hit goal with the ever increasing goals that raise every two weeks. You will "sell" the LV and then have $$$ negatively adjusted towards your goal when the insurance doesn't pay, thus making it harder to hit your goal after you have done all the work. You will work every day, evening and weekend, holiday and miss birthday's, weddings and every other important life event that comes your way and then see that you are only making your 75K base cause of the ever increasing goals that become attainable. You will realize that there is no data to sell this product and start to see the lies, smoke and mirrors that were sold to you when you interviewed. If you have 16 years big pharma with the same company I would stay put you have it much better than you will at Zoll. Also they will tell you that you get 30 days "vacation" please note that there are no holidays so if you want Christmas off you use a vacation day, if you want Thanksgiving off you will use a vacation day, so you really only get about two weeks vacation. You will then use your vacation day to have off, only for the hospital to be calling you about something with some patient and you will end up leaving Christmas gift opening or Thanksgiving dinner to take care of things for your customer and still not hit your goal and see that big fat pay check where you only made your base pay and little if any commissions. As far as your territory being an "expansion" territory..please know that it isn't. They took some reps account base and cut it in half and then expect them to do the same or more to hit goal with half the accounts. The same thing will happen to you in a few months. This is taking one big turd and cutting it up in to little turds. No matter what you still won't hit the goals once the ever growing quotas get moving. This is why 75% of the field force is here less than 1 year.
 












Base and car allowance is legit. The 160 at plan and top reps making 300 is not. Your territory is set up so if you make goal you will hit 157K, but you won't hit goal with the ever increasing goals that raise every two weeks. You will "sell" the LV and then have $$$ negatively adjusted towards your goal when the insurance doesn't pay, thus making it harder to hit your goal after you have done all the work. You will work every day, evening and weekend, holiday and miss birthday's, weddings and every other important life event that comes your way and then see that you are only making your 75K base cause of the ever increasing goals that become attainable. You will realize that there is no data to sell this product and start to see the lies, smoke and mirrors that were sold to you when you interviewed. If you have 16 years big pharma with the same company I would stay put you have it much better than you will at Zoll. Also they will tell you that you get 30 days "vacation" please note that there are no holidays so if you want Christmas off you use a vacation day, if you want Thanksgiving off you will use a vacation day, so you really only get about two weeks vacation. You will then use your vacation day to have off, only for the hospital to be calling you about something with some patient and you will end up leaving Christmas gift opening or Thanksgiving dinner to take care of things for your customer and still not hit your goal and see that big fat pay check where you only made your base pay and little if any commissions. As far as your territory being an "expansion" territory..please know that it isn't. They took some reps account base and cut it in half and then expect them to do the same or more to hit goal with half the accounts. The same thing will happen to you in a few months. This is taking one big turd and cutting it up in to little turds. No matter what you still won't hit the goals once the ever growing quotas get moving. This is why 75% of the field force is here less than 1 year.

Thanks!
 






please be skeptical of posters like this OP. pretty obvious this original poster is trolling for company insight for more than personal reasons...as in collecting pay check by asking small questions then going broad for anything...wit the goal to attain ANY thing for a competitor report. trust no one on public boards. Believe me. they will say/claim anything to get a conversation. OP if you are legit, reach out on linked in, let us know who you are, and why we should fill you in. Creeps crowd CP.
 






please be skeptical of posters like this OP. pretty obvious this original poster is trolling for company insight for more than personal reasons...as in collecting pay check by asking small questions then going broad for anything...wit the goal to attain ANY thing for a competitor report. trust no one on public boards. Believe me. they will say/claim anything to get a conversation. OP if you are legit, reach out on linked in, let us know who you are, and why we should fill you in. Creeps crowd CP.

WTF are you talking about??? I can only hope English isn't your first language!?!?
 


















please be skeptical of posters like this OP. pretty obvious this original poster is trolling for company insight for more than personal reasons...as in collecting pay check by asking small questions then going broad for anything...wit the goal to attain ANY thing for a competitor report. trust no one on public boards. Believe me. they will say/claim anything to get a conversation. OP if you are legit, reach out on linked in, let us know who you are, and why we should fill you in. Creeps crowd CP.

So why are you here? To troll for creeps? Are u the creep police? Lighten up Francis, ZOLL shouldn't have anything to hide! Answer the question or go troll linked in. Get over yourself! Your not important enough to be on linked in.
 






expansion territory
75K base
160K at plan
top reps making 300K+
$600 month car allowance

Sound legit?

Me: big pharma 16 years same company

16 years in pharma? Lol your perfect! What do you care what it pays, you've spent your whole life in meetings talking about planning the next meeting. You didn't deserve a paycheck then and you won't get one here. Your a perfect fit! Call frequency baby ! Maybe you can wear scrubs and feel important now! Your probably considering this opportunity because you want to save lives correct? Do us all a favor and eat one less box of Girl Scout cookies this year and you can start by saving your life.
 






If you could get a job in corporate that would probably be best. Standards in marketing or field support for instance seem really low compared to other companies with (at least at the leadership level) and most people seem quite stable.
 






If you could get a job in corporate that would probably be best. Standards in marketing or field support for instance seem really low compared to other companies with (at least at the leadership level) and most people seem quite stable.

You're kidding me right? No one would describe JW and his staff as "stable". Arrogant idiots and marketing newbies who dabble in sham science perhaps (read his "published articles" and you get the gist), but they'll drop to any low under to hide their incompetencies.
 






You're kidding me right? No one would describe JW and his staff as "stable". Arrogant idiots and marketing newbies who dabble in sham science perhaps (read his "published articles" and you get the gist), but they'll drop to any low under to hide their incompetencies.

^^^THIS^^^

What kind of arrogant asshole publishes his own article and then gives it to the field to sell off of??? VERY believable...
 












I rode oo JW when he first started there. Didn't like him then.
Good to know my instincts are calibrated

When the foundation of the company is built on pharm managers with little/no cardiac experience and the inability to learn or even care about the process that impedes sales it is inevitable that the house will collapse! I'm a firm believer in keeping the cancer isolated and contained therefore I hope ZOLL can stay afloat so the medical industry can keep dumping its misfits into one place!
 






You're kidding me right? No one would describe JW and his staff as "stable". Arrogant idiots and marketing newbies who dabble in sham science perhaps (read his "published articles" and you get the gist), but they'll drop to any low under to hide their incompetencies.

I think what the OP was stating is that marketing and field support in house is so weak and there seems to be no accountability and there is no turn-over in house (even though JW and some others NEED TO GO) that if the person is interested in taking a position in house you can be a wall flower that has zero skills or competence be out of touch with what the field needs and cash a pay check. JW, Marketing and field support are so out of touch with the field.It's a shame that they don't realize that the field is their customer
 






Base and car allowance is legit. The 160 at plan and top reps making 300 is not. Your territory is set up so if you make goal you will hit 157K, but you won't hit goal with the ever increasing goals that raise every two weeks. You will "sell" the LV and then have $$$ negatively adjusted towards your goal when the insurance doesn't pay, thus making it harder to hit your goal after you have done all the work. You will work every day, evening and weekend, holiday and miss birthday's, weddings and every other important life event that comes your way and then see that you are only making your 75K base cause of the ever increasing goals that become attainable. You will realize that there is no data to sell this product and start to see the lies, smoke and mirrors that were sold to you when you interviewed. If you have 16 years big pharma with the same company I would stay put you have it much better than you will at Zoll. Also they will tell you that you get 30 days "vacation" please note that there are no holidays so if you want Christmas off you use a vacation day, if you want Thanksgiving off you will use a vacation day, so you really only get about two weeks vacation. You will then use your vacation day to have off, only for the hospital to be calling you about something with some patient and you will end up leaving Christmas gift opening or Thanksgiving dinner to take care of things for your customer and still not hit your goal and see that big fat pay check where you only made your base pay and little if any commissions. As far as your territory being an "expansion" territory..please know that it isn't. They took some reps account base and cut it in half and then expect them to do the same or more to hit goal with half the accounts. The same thing will happen to you in a few months. This is taking one big turd and cutting it up in to little turds. No matter what you still won't hit the goals once the ever growing quotas get moving. This is why 75% of the field force is here less than 1 year.

Does anyone else disagree with this? I was contacted by a recruiter also and was told the same thing as the original post!
 






Does anyone else disagree with this? I was contacted by a recruiter also and was told the same thing as the original post!

I wholeheartedly agree with what is written in the post you quoted (i.e. what recruiters are selling are lies). PLEASE do not believe the lies and join this company! Many people have believed what recruiters told them, left a good situation, and now regret it (your's truly). Don''t be in that camp!
 






Please understand the recruiters calling you are nothing more than sales people trying to sell you on a job. They get paid a commission or fee for placing you in the job and they don't care about what they have to say or do to get you or anyone else in the role. They also do not care if you like it or if you leave in a year or if the role ruins your career. They don't care if they lie to you or tell you something that isn't true because they do not care about repeat business with you. They do care however about the ongoing repeat Zoll business because they are making a lot of money off of the turnover and constant replacement of reps. The recruiters put their loyalties on who is paying them. Do not trust what they re telling you.