Racial quotas now at Pfizer - white men need not apply

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anonymous said:
This is all complete rubbish. Discrimination is wrong period. Even when discrimination goes against the hated white men, it is still wrong. End of story. Stop defending discrimination.
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Really? No debate or discussion. Just a complete dismissal of the comment.

Where is the justification for discrimination? How is making moves to remove discriminatory obstacles wrong? How is opening doors to minorities that have been stopped from crossing the threshold wrong?

Do you believe that processes and decisions were all non-discriminatory up until now and now they are discriminatory against whites? A little discrimination has significant ripple effects. It results in your minority colleagues getting fewer opportunities, smaller raises, taking much longer to get promoted, requiring much more to be deemed qualified. Next thing you know you’re working alongside a colleague making $25-30k less than you doing the same job. Then that colleague leaves for a $40K raise at another company who appreciates that talent.

Its not a good look to invest so much in colleagues only to make it so easy and enticing for them to leave.
 




anonymous said:
I don’t think Pfizer would be taking these measures if they didn’t need to correct years of letting minority talent languish and go unrecognized. Plus, there is a battle for talent across our industry. The company can’t afford to let the talent they want to keep to leave for greener grass.

The assumption is that the superior candidate gets hired or gets promoted. Too often it comes down to 2-3 great candidates and only one position. Then it comes down to fit - do I like this person? Will this person fit in with the team? Will this person cause trouble? The unconsciously biased mind will almost always default to the one who shares a familiar background, educational history, or speech pattern and dress as well as likes and dislikes in order to answer these questions.

Minorities are disadvantaged in these cases. Don’t assume that there are so many all white teams because no minorities want those roles or are unqualified for them. What you often see are managers cloning themselves through their teams. You’ll never see minority managers do that.
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When only 56% graduate high school and 13% graduate college, there's not much you can do.
 




anonymous said:
Really? No debate or discussion. Just a complete dismissal of the comment.

Where is the justification for discrimination? How is making moves to remove discriminatory obstacles wrong? How is opening doors to minorities that have been stopped from crossing the threshold wrong?

Do you believe that processes and decisions were all non-discriminatory up until now and now they are discriminatory against whites? A little discrimination has significant ripple effects. It results in your minority colleagues getting fewer opportunities, smaller raises, taking much longer to get promoted, requiring much more to be deemed qualified. Next thing you know you’re working alongside a colleague making $25-30k less than you doing the same job. Then that colleague leaves for a $40K raise at another company who appreciates that talent.

Its not a good look to invest so much in colleagues only to make it so easy and enticing for them to leave.
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Complete BS. Pfizer over-recruits minorities and then promotes them too quickly, leaving them grossly unqualified for the positions they find themselves in. Those that leave for other companies are typically just taking an over-paid quota-hire position somewhere else, as all companies have to.go to great lengths to meet quotas that bear no resemblance to the realities of the available workforce (in terms of race, gender, education, lack of criminal record, work experience). 40 years ago, yes we had problem. But since then we’ve over-compensated, yet the SJW are never satisfied. To concede that companies have gone above and beyond giving people a fair shake would end the grift for the race hustlers. Can’t have that, they’ve got quite the sweet little scam going.
 




anonymous said:
Complete BS. Pfizer over-recruits minorities and then promotes them too quickly, leaving them grossly unqualified for the positions they find themselves in. Those that leave for other companies are typically just taking an over-paid quota-hire position somewhere else, as all companies have to.go to great lengths to meet quotas that bear no resemblance to the realities of the available workforce (in terms of race, gender, education, lack of criminal record, work experience). 40 years ago, yes we had problem. But since then we’ve over-compensated, yet the SJW are never satisfied. To concede that companies have gone above and beyond giving people a fair shake would end the grift for the race hustlers. Can’t have that, they’ve got quite the sweet little scam going.
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Oh please! STFU! If I had a dollar for every White Boy that’s way over their heads unqualified. Let’s see what happens when Minorities are in the hiring seat due to Census numbers. Game on
 








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anonymous said:
Really? No debate or discussion. Just a complete dismissal of the comment.

Where is the justification for discrimination?

They now have mandatory quotas. They are forcing the hiring of non-whites and women to satisfy mandated percentages. Their discrimination is now formalized and set in writing. The blatant discrimination that once was only understood is now set in writing. The pressure to hire and promote anyone but a white male is enormous. You are ok with it because it fits with your narrative. Everyone justifies this discrimination because it is against white men and is seen as pay-back.
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We lowered the minumum requirements to get an interview in hopes of expanding the diversity of applicants.... and ultimatley hires.... the experiment (in the division i worked for) increased the applicant diversity pool 10x and PFE gets the federal credit... but the net hire rate was a whooping 40.. and of those 40 many didnt pass background/ license or drug tests... i was in the know on this project divisionally w HR. Then they laid my blexican ass off too.....
 




When your bosses income has increased 937% since 1978 and yours has increased only 5.7% during that same time period, it’s time to stop blaming minorities for your failures and woes. IJS!!!!
 








Here is the problem as I see it . The best person for the job should get the job. It shouldn’t matter the color or your skin or your sex , but the world does not work like that .
Working at Pfizer When I first started there I made a comment to a friend that I felt like I was at a KKK rally there were no people or color and very few women .

We lived by the good old boys club and I was part of it not realizing it and I know that sounds stupid but you don’t realize it because it’s all you know . So I do believe it the company has to train the way we think . It’s sad I’m 2021 I’m saying we need to be retrained but to retrain that we give all people the same courtesy we gave to white men and give equal courtesy to all of which still includes white men but all people of color and no matter your gender
 




anonymous said:
Here is the problem as I see it . The best person for the job should get the job. It shouldn’t matter the color or your skin or your sex , but the world does not work like that .
Working at Pfizer When I first started there I made a comment to a friend that I felt like I was at a KKK rally there were no people or color and very few women .

We lived by the good old boys club and I was part of it not realizing it and I know that sounds stupid but you don’t realize it because it’s all you know . So I do believe it the company has to train the way we think . It’s sad I’m 2021 I’m saying we need to be retrained but to retrain that we give all people the same courtesy we gave to white men and give equal courtesy to all of which still includes white men but all people of color and no matter your gender
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Don’t worry. Retraining is taking place on the younger generation, Little Jim and Little Bob.
 




anonymous said:
Here is the problem as I see it . The best person for the job should get the job. It shouldn’t matter the color or your skin or your sex , but the world does not work like that .
Working at Pfizer When I first started there I made a comment to a friend that I felt like I was at a KKK rally there were no people or color and very few women .

We lived by the good old boys club and I was part of it not realizing it and I know that sounds stupid but you don’t realize it because it’s all you know . So I do believe it the company has to train the way we think . It’s sad I’m 2021 I’m saying we need to be retrained but to retrain that we give all people the same courtesy we gave to white men and give equal courtesy to all of which still includes white men but all people of color and no matter your gender
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Being the only one or just one of a few in a room is not so bad.

It was watching the close networks of folks who shared so much in common with one another, travelled on vacations together and were invited to one another’s homes that made it feel like some of us were on the outside looking in.
 




anonymous said:
No it is not! With quotas, it is outright discrimination both based on skin color and also on gender. It's ok though because the discrimination is against white men.
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This form of affirmative action was going on years ago and we had some poor hires to fulfill the companies agenda on increasing minorities. If they were the best great, but we were being asked to overlook and select a minority. This was years ago and results were horrible
I always believed to hire the best whether female, male, white, black or brown
 




anonymous said:
Here is the problem as I see it . The best person for the job should get the job. It shouldn’t matter the color or your skin or your sex , but the world does not work like that .
Working at Pfizer When I first started there I made a comment to a friend that I felt like I was at a KKK rally there were no people or color and very few women .

We lived by the good old boys club and I was part of it not realizing it and I know that sounds stupid but you don’t realize it because it’s all you know . So I do believe it the company has to train the way we think . It’s sad I’m 2021 I’m saying we need to be retrained but to retrain that we give all people the same courtesy we gave to white men and give equal courtesy to all of which still includes white men but all people of color and no matter your gender
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"Hire the best"? When have we ever hired and promoted the best? I started almost 20 years ago, and not a single General Business Manager (or whatever they were called) is still here. All were fired. Head of Marketing? Shit canned. SVPs of just 10 years ago? Gone. Terminated. Only "Wood U" was left standing and if you think he was "the best" at anything, you need to get off of yer high horse, there, buddy.
 




anonymous said:
"Hire the best"? When have we ever hired and promoted the best? I started almost 20 years ago, and not a single General Business Manager (or whatever they were called) is still here. All were fired. Head of Marketing? Shit canned. SVPs of just 10 years ago? Gone. Terminated. Only "Wood U" was left standing and if you think he was "the best" at anything, you need to get off of yer high horse, there, buddy.
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Five to one, baby
One in five
No one here gets out alive, now
You get yours, baby
I'll get mine
Gonna make it, baby
If we try
The old get old
And the young get stronger
May take a week
And it may take longer
They got the guns
Well, but we got the numbers
Gonna win, yeah
We're takin' over
Come on!
 




anonymous said:
"Hire the best"? When have we ever hired and promoted the best? I started almost 20 years ago, and not a single General Business Manager (or whatever they were called) is still here. All were fired. Head of Marketing? Shit canned. SVPs of just 10 years ago? Gone. Terminated. Only "Wood U" was left standing and if you think he was "the best" at anything, you need to get off of yer high horse, there, buddy.
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omg I remember wood u. He seemed nice but would cut your legs off and keep quoting the Bible. He was bad but look at who’s steering the ship now!
 




anonymous said:
omg I remember wood u. He seemed nice but would cut your legs off and keep quoting the Bible. He was bad but look at who’s steering the ship now!
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He was absolutely cut throat at the political game. If he randomly walked up to you at a meeting and didn't laugh at his stupid jokes you were gone. The whole managing by fear thing. That's how he survived so long
 












anonymous said:
He was absolutely cut throat at the political game. If he randomly walked up to you at a meeting and didn't laugh at his stupid jokes you were gone. The whole managing by fear thing. That's how he survived so long
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Close: he lasted so long because 235 E42nd is replete with what my dad called "nincompoops".

Hullooo...remind me how is our stock doing since the Kindler Days?
 




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