To be brutally frank, you'd be better off working a local job such as McDonald's. It will pay the same, your manager will appreciate you more, and you won't have to run your car into the ground.
To be brutally frank, no one cares about your comments especially when they are seeking facts upon which to base their decision and not opinion.
what travel opportunity are you referring to that we do not have?My take on flextime at PDI is: We will receive 1/2 of the money fulltime reps make for the "opportunity" of not having to travel (a cost saving to the company). But everything else is the same.. What blows me away is the expectation of all the admin for FREE!!!!!!!!!!Is it even legal?
what travel opportunity are you referring to that we do not have?
what travel opportunity are you referring to that we do not have?
We do travel to national meetings, and to train. Last year we traveled to a meeting for FXR. Albeit we haven't traveled lately, probably due to the economy.No traveling away to train, no trimester POA's, no national meetings and no overnight territory travel. I live in an area were many reps have at least 1 or 2 nights out a month to be efficient with routing.
It's not an opinion, it's a reality. When you divide the time by the pay you are better off at Mc'Donald's for all the reasons mentioned. My car has taken a beating, oil changes, tires....my manager wants to know my every move. What days I am working, how many calls I plan on doing and with winter weather things change but I have to report back to this tyrant with my new plan. "She" could care less about the quality of the call just get those sigs but then on the other hand wants a full show when it's time to work together. No mention of quality at any other time. On my third manager, this last one is the worst. When I took the job I thought that the job was part time but really it's flex time because 130 calls a month is just about full time with none of the benefits. Oh yeah let the flu season end.....
How about leaving out alot of extra admn time that we get trapped into doing and not being paid for?A full time position requires a minimum of 160 calls in a month if there are only 20 working days in the month. The average number of work days for FT reps is about 22. This means the FT rep must make a minimum of 176 calls in a month every month just to qualify for bonus payout. When you look at the normal call requirements based on number of targets in the FT plan plus the number of calls that must be made in a sales period that number can increase to as many as 200 calls per month. The part time position by definition is equivalent in call and time worked requirements is 75% of these numbers. 132 calls is 75% of 176 calls. In other words, the goal of 130 is less than than the minimum calls required on a full time rep.
Flex time or part time does not mean that we have to be less capable than a full time rep would be. It just means that we have expectations set based on the time we are asked to devote to the job. I was told that a PT position has expectations of 3 1/2 days per week. Since 75% of a 5 day week equals 3.75 that number appears to be also in our favor. I would bet that there are very few, if any, companies of all industries that provide the same benefits for a PT sales force that they do the FT one. I learned in working a flexible shift that if you plan your routing as best you can and leave out a lot of extra trips that I would get trapped into making when I did not plan well, I kept down cost of using my car a great deal. In addition, an agreement to reimburse us for expenses incurred is not to help us make extra money on the use of these things, it is just to cover the basic actual cost. An effort to make this happen as accurately as possible is the responsibility of any company that pays in this manner and how they do it is audited to ensure no applicable federal laws are violated.
Sorry for the long answer from me but it is complicated. In a former life, I had to work through these type of calculations all of the time and it was a difficult job always.
Poster #12 - definitely Home Office person.
Always trying to defend the company and how it treats the reps.
No one in the field sees things the way they do -
ignore the obvious HO posters and listen to the field reps.
Bottom line: not a true part time job esp when you factor in the admin work.
The compensation is piss poor!!
I am not poster #14, and I too believe you are either management or have a small (in terms of geography) territory. You are comparing apples to oranges with your calculations. In order to make this comparison the perks for a 5 day fulltime week vs 3.5 day week would have to be exactly the same. When you hire me you also hire my beautiful reliable car. Your calculations say shared sales reps work in the field 75% of week, my question is this? Where does the free admn time fit into this 75% work week?You are the poster that always thinks someone is from the HO if they present different information than you do. You must think that a fellow sales rep does not have the knowledge or experience to be able to provide the answer that I did. I have never worked anywhere with PDI except in the field just like you do. I do see things the way reps do but I also try to see the other side of each issue. I hear your message as you thinking that just because you are in a part time role, you feel that you should be excused from the admin work. That just is not true because we are the only ones that can provide certain information. Either complete the work that is required by our job or go find another job that doesn't require you to do anything but entitles you to be paid. When you find such a miraculous job, let the rest of us know where it is because a lot of people would love to be there with you. Either put up or shut up.
I am not poster #14, and I too believe you are either management or have a small (in terms of geography) territory. You are comparing apples to oranges with your calculations. In order to make this comparison the perks for a 5 day fulltime week vs 3.5 day week would have to be exactly the same. When you hire me you also hire my beautiful reliable car. Your calculations say shared sales reps work in the field 75% of week, my question is this? Where does the free admn time fit into this 75% work week?
