This concerns me after reading if managers were hired with little experience in industry. I don't want to teach a manager on 50 thousand a year.A DM is generally required to have a minimum of 10 years of recent and progressive experience in the field. This means being up to date with the knocking on doors and dealing with BS of lockouts and restrictions. Better candidates have prior management experience, MBAs and masters and established people management skills. Managers in any of these contracts have a tough time getting well experienced people, then face constant fear they'll lose them and blow numbers. These young inexperienced kids may get a tryout as a manager but in reality the experienced reps will be teaching them. I would also question if the school kid level managers have the ability to manage people and be effective in dealing with differing work styles and personalities. Life experience does matter a great deal.
This happened at Celgene Dermatology and no one is happy there either and reps leaving interviewing galore.I interviewed for the job earlier in the week. The DM was a young girl with these being her first DM position while only being a rep for 7 years. She was nice to speak to but I can't imagine myself working for her when she has never worked in pain market before and I had to educate her on what scheduling of narcotics meant etc. This is a good job if your unemployment is running out or are looking to get your foot in the door. If you are an experienced rep especially in pain this isn't for you the salary is awful. I received an email yesterday from the DM that she wanted to meet me one last time and a possible offer will be made and asked my salary requirements. Instead of emailing back and forth I called her and basically the top end range is between 60-65 I informed her again about my pain experience and my last position I was making 85K with car etc. All of a sudden she gets irate and says " if you don't want to take advantage of this great chance tell me now and I'll just try to find someone else" I sorta chuckled after she said it because she sounded like a whiny school girl instead of a DM after she heard me laugh she said " whatever I'm probably better off without you" and hung up the phone.
Does anyone know anything on pain contract posted? Too many different answers with salary, start date, training online only, training at H.O., training in Las Vegas only, etc.
Is the salary really only 50s? I started in the industry in 50s 20 years ago.
Yes the salary is in the 50's. This is not 20 years ago the industry has made radical changes and they know reps have virtually no impact on RXs anymore and almost anyone could do this job now. If you don't like it we have many thousands of unemployed reps begging for this position.
-Your PSS Recruiter
....but they leave when they discover they're in a meat grinder. Required to work till you drop....all for pennies!
PSS is not coming out ahead when the turnover is high....it means bad image, poor results and empty territories. That sure ain't gonna impress!
No job that pays 90 or 100K expects you to work like a PSS hired hand. Most employers show their people they are valued and work to create a normal work schedule for their people.
"AZ is a solid company"...................BWHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!
Pfizer wanted them!!!!
Then get a job that pays you all that $90-100K that you are relentlessly on here whining about that you feel entitled to. Oh yeah, that's right, you can't and that's why you are at this dump. Get over yourself loser. If you were more competent then you would be getting that bloated salary for dumping samples, delivering pizzas and faking calls. Truth is that you are not anywhere near that this is the best you can hope for skippy.
WHO GIVE A SHIT DUMBASS?!!!!!! Are you somehow in awe with those two shit companies because you can't get hired? Dimwitted moron.
Then get a job that pays you all that $90-100K that you are relentlessly on here whining about that you feel entitled to. Oh yeah, that's right, you can't and that's why you are at this dump. Get over yourself loser. If you were more competent then you would be getting that bloated salary for dumping samples, delivering pizzas and faking calls. Truth is that you are not anywhere near that this is the best you can hope for skippy.
Most pharma reps with a good chunk of experience are easily making 90K or more...
The jobs at cso are not real pharma sales and are no comparison to any real pharma job
It depends on the contract. Some are set up more like big pharma and others aren't. Yes, CSOs do pay a lot less than big pharma, and if it isn't enough for you, then move on.
Agree. If you are on a new contract with longevity its similar to real pharma. They want you to stay around.
End of contract job is a whole other story.....
This concerns me after reading if managers were hired with little experience in industry. I don't want to teach a manager on 50 thousand a year.
When does the second wave of hiring start? If you have already interviewed with hiring manager, will you have to interview again?
