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Anonymous said:
AZ direct starts with 83K salary and adds on 20 or so bonus and a new car....that is 113K minimum and the car.

We do the same work and make so much less. Many reps here probably made that or much before taking the offer here. That can be very tough if you have the same expenses. Its also why so many here have no choice but to make these jobs temporary. If they are the main income producer it can be impossible.
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This is the exact reason I turned down the position. I couldn't work for this company knowing I have more experience better resume then the person working at AZ making over $20k more then me.
 






Anonymous said:
This is the exact reason I turned down the position. I couldn't work for this company knowing I have more experience better resume then the person working at AZ making over $20k more then me.
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I signed on only because I had to! Its a tad more than unemployment and runs out at 6 months. I am continuing to look for a normal job with a normal pay.
 






Anonymous said:
This is the exact reason I turned down the position. I couldn't work for this company knowing I have more experience better resume then the person working at AZ making over $20k more then me.
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Then why don''t you get one of those big pharma jobs that pay more?.......Oh yeah, that's right, because you are not good enough and can't get hired. You post this "I am too good to work for less" BS all the time. Admit it dummy, you are not too good or you would have another job. Can you understand that basic concept yet? Enjoy your unemployment loser.
 


















They will get what they pay for with sales results. Maybe they will wise up and eventually pay people with what they are worth.

If not, merry go round hiring is expected....and drip along sales.
 






Anonymous said:
They will get what they pay for with sales results. Maybe they will wise up and eventually pay people with what they are worth.

If not, merry go round hiring is expected....and drip along sales.
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If they paid you what you were worth you wouldn't even make minimum wage dummy. This is a silly job that a 5 year old could do and there are thousands of unemployed reps begging to work for anything. You're just too dense to realize any of that. What is "drip along sales" supposed to mean you stupid fuck?
 






Anonymous said:
Then why don''t you get one of those big pharma jobs that pay more?.......Oh yeah, that's right, because you are not good enough and can't get hired. You post this "I am too good to work for less" BS all the time. Admit it dummy, you are not too good or you would have another job. Can you understand that basic concept yet? Enjoy your unemployment loser.
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Not good enough for pharma?
rotfl..................................................hahahahaha.

its more like: your rack is not big enough for pharma. Its not a difficult job to get. look at the profiles on linkedin. you don't see IVY leaguers on the sales force, unless it is at headquarters....never in the field.

here is the pharma. profile now:25-30, female, attractive, GPA over 2.0 at any 4 year school, 1-2 years selling payroll is preferred, but a job at Applebee's or TGIF's is an acceptable substitute. its a joke industry. We all know that, except you...I guess.
 






Anonymous said:
Not good enough for pharma?
rotfl..................................................hahahahaha.

its more like: your rack is not big enough for pharma. Its not a difficult job to get. look at the profiles on linkedin. you don't see IVY leaguers on the sales force, unless it is at headquarters....never in the field.

here is the pharma. profile now:25-30, female, attractive, GPA over 2.0 at any 4 year school, 1-2 years selling payroll is preferred, but a job at Applebee's or TGIF's is an acceptable substitute. its a joke industry. We all know that, except you...I guess.
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hahaha. Keep telling yourself that loser. Yes it's the rest of the worlds fault that you are a loser in life and you are really very special and talented. Companies just don't appreciate how wonderful you are. LOL
 












Anonymous said:
hahaha. Keep telling yourself that loser. Yes it's the rest of the worlds fault that you are a loser in life and you are really very special and talented. Companies just don't appreciate how wonderful you are. LOL
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You get paid to get signatures!

And who is the loser?

I get paid to consult with business owners. I left big pharma in my early 20s when I saw the circus act...I guess you like your job, eh? I guess you enjoy doing nothing all day but getting signatures and getting laughed at when you walk out of an office. I hate to be mean, but they are laughing at you. I understand you don't care because you have the shiny Chevy Malibu and decent pay for getting autographs...and I hope you don't get mad at me...but one day you will start feeling depressed for wasting your life in a silly industry. Don't be too hard on yourself. Be happy. Be happy you saved your money, made good investments, and can now see that this guy on café pharma. was right...good luck with your career...I wish you the best....just stop letting the corporate sales wagon make a fool out of you and your work ethic and education by getting signatures to prove you are "working"...there is more to like than "playing the game"...God Bless.
 






Anonymous said:
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You get paid to get signatures!

And who is the loser?

I get paid to consult with business owners. I left big pharma in my early 20s when I saw the circus act...I guess you like your job, eh? I guess you enjoy doing nothing all day but getting signatures and getting laughed at when you walk out of an office. I hate to be mean, but they are laughing at you. I understand you don't care because you have the shiny Chevy Malibu and decent pay for getting autographs...and I hope you don't get mad at me...but one day you will start feeling depressed for wasting your life in a silly industry. Don't be too hard on yourself. Be happy. Be happy you saved your money, made good investments, and can now see that this guy on café pharma. was right...good luck with your career...I wish you the best....just stop letting the corporate sales wagon make a fool out of you and your work ethic and education by getting signatures to prove you are "working"...there is more to like than "playing the game"...God Bless.
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Absolutely agree. The job is dumping sample and getting signatures. Physician hate us or have completely closed the doors. Who wouldn't when a clown shows up. The maintenance person emptying the office trash has more respect. Please Look at getting career counseling or looking in other areas.
 






Anonymous said:
I spoke with a Publicis recruiter. Base is up in the air and will depend on each individual. I would think base would be in the 70's from our conversation. It is a $600 car allowance (not sure if gas card or mileage reimbursement). The first set of interviews in an online experience. It is a one way recorded interview. You will record yourself and answer specific questions. Each candidate will answer the same 4 questions. This needs to be completed by next week. The face to face interviews will be Jan 8th-Jan-20th. The offers will go out by the 20th. Training begins mid Feb and late March is a 3 day product launch meeting.
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Do you remember questions?
 


















Anonymous said:
Why on earth would you come here unless you had to? The only logical reasons would be (1) new to pharma hoping to break in; (2) out of work looking to get back in; (3) taking a leap into management and hoping you cut it. The pay is sub-par, as are the benefits. There is no job security. This is a holding place and everyone here is looking either to stay in motion or to bounce to something else when the next better thing comes along.
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Truth, finally spoken. You said it! You must be in an "I don't need the money" situation to last in these cso jobs. It's a fine and dandy good job if you live on the Mexican border or anywhere in the deep south. Hey, man but north of Tijuana or that Mason Dixon line this payday ain't cuttin' mustard.

Need some hot tamale in my paycheck!
 












The room confirmation I got doesn't show any info about roommates and we were allowed to choose two queens or one king. I doubt they would allow us to choose one bed if they were placing us with roommates but you never know.

Who's ready for that 6 hour conference call/webex on Wednesday? Woo hoo!
 






Anonymous said:
The room confirmation I got doesn't show any info about roommates and we were allowed to choose two queens or one king. I doubt they would allow us to choose one bed if they were placing us with roommates but you never know.

Who's ready for that 6 hour conference call/webex on Wednesday? Woo hoo!
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What room confirmation? I just received my plane reservation confirmation. Did I miss something?
 






On the meeting website where we had to go register and fill out info for the meeting, if you click on the "My Registration" tab you can look at the sub-tabs of either "Confirmation" or "My Travel". It will show your room reservation info and your flight info.
 






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