Overtime Lawsuits

[Anonymous]

Jokes on the reps who think they'll get some real $$$.
The ones that make out on this deal are the retirees

 

[Anonymous]

You arent alone, if that's any solace for you.

Many people in many OT related class action suits have been/are reluctant to join the class because they fear employer retaliation. Retaliation is illegal, but how would you prove in court you were retaliated against? Also, being an anonymous class member is NOT guaranteed. Your employer may or may not find out you joined the class, depending on how arrangements are made to pay the class members, if they win.

I'm sorry for your situation, good luck in the future

Anonymous? My former RM called wanting to know why one of my reps had signed onto the class action lawsuit. Every single name was made known to all parties in this lawsuit. Retribution didn't occur to my rep only because the RM left the company and the new RM had other fish to fry when she took over.

I don't think anyone should get any $$$ for overtime - we're not clock-punchers. But looking to retaliate or even have a rep explain himself/herself is just plain wrong. Anyone who experienced retaliation needs to get a good lawyer. I drink my share of Kool-Aid, but I can't support that type of witch-hunt mentality.

 

[Anonymous]

Anonymous? My former RM called wanting to know why one of my reps had signed onto the class action lawsuit. Every single name was made known to all parties in this lawsuit. Retribution didn't occur to my rep only because the RM left the company and the new RM had other fish to fry when she took over.

I don't think anyone should get any $$$ for overtime - we're not clock-punchers. But looking to retaliate or even have a rep explain himself/herself is just plain wrong. Anyone who experienced retaliation needs to get a good lawyer. I drink my share of Kool-Aid, but I can't support that type of witch-hunt mentality.

Sleep well as you will nor be the one deciding who gets overtime or not...the Supremes will announce their decision in June. The industry will not win and a just wage and compensation will be exacted!

 

[Anonymous]

Do you know the exact date in June?

 

[Anonymous]

Knowing Pfizer as I do, they will also retaliate against the reps' DBMs. Just like they do when we give any negative feedback on our nonanonymous surveys. Instead of Pfizer realizing it sucks, they blame the managers for our unhappiness or failing to lie on the survey.

 

[Anonymous]

Anonymous? My former RM called wanting to know why one of my reps had signed onto the class action lawsuit. Every single name was made known to all parties in this lawsuit. Retribution didn't occur to my rep only because the RM left the company and the new RM had other fish to fry when she took over.

I don't think anyone should get any $$$ for overtime - we're not clock-punchers. But looking to retaliate or even have a rep explain himself/herself is just plain wrong. Anyone who experienced retaliation needs to get a good lawyer. I drink my share of Kool-Aid, but I can't support that type of witch-hunt mentality.

Remaining anonymous depends upon whether or not a third party administrator is retained to pay out any funds. There does NOT have to be a 3rd party admin in a class action lawsuit. If there isnt one, and Pfizer has to disburse funds to members of the class, then Pfizer will need to know exactly who joined the suit. It sounds like there is no 3rd party admin in the Pfizer suit.

 

[Anonymous]

People need to really understand what this lawsuit is about. It has nothing to do with a bunch of reps getting together to try and squeeze money out of Pfizer. It has everything to do with the way Pfizer paid employement taxes from 2000-2007. The case only pertains to these years. By classifing employees as "exempt" Pfizer got out of paying millions to the federal government. The same was true for Novartis. This is why the Secretary of Labor was on the side of the reps. It means Pfizer will have to pay the government money. This is not going to effect anything going forward as they(pharma companies) have all cleaned up their tax filing methods.

 

[Anonymous]

When is the Supreme Court making it's decision on this?

 

[Anonymous]

My sources say June 15th, and it is thought that the reps have the majority to prevail.

 

[Anonymous]

My sources say June 15th, and it is thought that the reps have the majority to prevail.

AMEN...

 

[Anonymous]

We deserve it! Especially those of us who launched Liptor and Viagra. We worked many weekends and evenings. Worked well over 40 hours a week doing computer dial up crap, dinner programs, health fairs and exhibits on Saturdays. We never sold anything, we promoted.

 

[Anonymous]

Getting 8-10 "sigs" for you slackard may be a piece of cake because that's all you do. Run around one large clinic to hand over your pad to a nurse and gather signatures. Some reps actually took time to wait for Drs to have Discussions.
Try having a manager who wants the 12 signatures to EACH be from different clinics, specific Drs. and having a rural territory.
The big point in this whole overtime is to determine if pharma reps really are really "sales people" or "marketing drones". If you are selling your samples then your a sales person. If you just talk about your samples, you are not. Pharma reps are not sales people and they are NOT managers.

Any good manager would not want you to get just a signature. Getting a signature is not selling and all the is doing is making sure his ass is covered when it comes to his district meeting their metrics. This whole signature fiasco is such a joke. Many physicians have no idea what they are signing for and how many samples you are leaving. It's not the number of signatures you get, it's how many physicians you have actually provided information that is compelling for them to treat a patient with your product versus a competitive product. Believe it or not, many patients are not always treated with the most effective product.

 

[Anonymous]

Any good manager would not want you to get just a signature. Getting a signature is not selling and all the is doing is making sure his ass is covered when it comes to his district meeting their metrics. This whole signature fiasco is such a joke. Many physicians have no idea what they are signing for and how many samples you are leaving. It's not the number of signatures you get, it's how many physicians you have actually provided information that is compelling for them to treat a patient with your product versus a competitive product. Believe it or not, many patients are not always treated with the most effective product.

I never played the signature chase game. I would take my time in a clinic and wait for the prescriber, so I could have a discussion. My manager wrote me up constantly for not getting 10 signatures, but I didn't care. If the clinic was overloaded with samples, I wouldn't leave them nor get a signature.

Most reps flooded the clinics early in the morning when Drs. were the busiest. My counterparts knew that I was the team mate who started later but worked until around 6:30pm, so I could catch Drs. in their office winding up the day. That's when you could have the "real" conversations and even talk about some of the cases they saw that day and how treatments could be adjusted.

Moved on to Surgical Sales, which is TRUE salesmanship.

Being a Pfizer Rep is NOT sales. Far from it. Everytime I see my old counterparts, they have a tray of cookies, coffee or little bags of Popcorn in their hands. All they do is bribe for access so they can get a signature.