Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deserve

Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

Actually, I think has started his own landscape company. It's called, FU Landscaping. I do it your way, until there's no grass!
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

I saw him at Nordstroms at the Layaway counter. It seems that they DO let you leave with a suit and pay later after all. Whodathunkit?
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

Let me share this with you because I am sure you morons cant add.

Avg OS sales rep does $20,000/month in sales

or because youre all so dumb $240,000/year

each Sales rep makes $80,000/yr on average

each has on average two PSRs who make $40,000/yr, or $80k combined

Taxes and benfits on those salaries is 20%, or .20x$160k=$32,000

Combined salary, benefits and taxes = $192,000 for a sales rep and two psrs

Try to pay attention morons ...$240k-$192k=$48,000

Thats just salaries, we havent even paid for people to answer the phones, bill the claim, collect the money, pay for the rent on the facilities, pay for legal, regulatory, let alone the actual braces and cpms themselves. THE BUSINESS IS FAILING BECAUSE THE SALES REPS ARE THE LAZIEST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET. YOU DO NOTHING TO GROW THE BUSINESS, ONLY COMPLAIN.

Let me spare you the suspense, yes I am one of the RSMs who was just let go...

Please let us know when AC Medical is up and running. Amaze us with your business acumen and shut us up with your annual report. Otherwise - blah, blah, blah...
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

So if the reps are so lazy and terrible, and management is so awesome.....why is there a bunch of reps names still being used on the website long after they have left? Under the contact a rep, on ottobockus.com, I count 4 on their who are no longer there and that was as of when I left well over two years ago so who knows now. So what I'm saying is, lets take a terrible lazy rep and fire them and then keep there name as the rep in that territory for over 2 years later just in case they may have a customer who thinks they still work there? wow! thats too funny. who's lazy?? lets see, so the problem was the reps...ok 85% of them from 7 years ago are gone...how are you doing now? ohhhh thats right, this side of the company had gone from sales reps to independent contractors, psr's to indepent contractors to now administrative assistants who can deliver to patients.....really. wow, I would really want a friend or relative setup on a cpm device fresh out of surgery from an administrative assistant who is basically handed a key to the office and their delivery vehicle. however, it must be a problem with operations and sales reps cause they were all so lazy...especially when they had to cover for the psr's when they were on vacation. so the new ops people are supposed to do what exactly?? how much do they get paid to do what again? don't they cover when a psr or "admin assistant is out?" well from what I hear majority of the managers and ops people couldn't figure out how to setup a brace or a cpm if they had to. Sad having directors and managers running a company that they have no real experience once so ever. lets take a day and ride with a manager during their day to day operations and see what they get done.....humm, let me guess, couple pointless conference calls, returning phone calls to reps with questions that they have to just say, I will get back to you..... so this brings me to my final point, if a sales rep is lazy and the sales manager who posted this earlier said so and their main function was to ride along with reps in their region to try and bring in business, what does that make a rbm? my guess is a successful rider in a lazy reps vehicle....
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

So if the reps are so lazy and terrible, and management is so awesome.....why is there a bunch of reps names still being used on the website long after they have left? Under the contact a rep, on ottobockus.com, I count 4 on their who are no longer there

Because the person whose job this was was fired. Non-essential. Thus the reason they are looking to hire this:

http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?t=480023
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

so they have been looking for someone to fill that position for over 2 years??? Interesting. I guess it doesn't really matter cause OBOS will be shut down by the end of the year when Germany takes a look at operations and books.
 












Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

"Responsible for leading and managing a team of 10 direct sales representatives and 10 independent contractors. Manage a portfolio of roughly $8M through a vast array orthopedic equipment/supplies."

This would mean if there really are 10 direct sales reps and 10 independent contractors, that the average monthly revenue would be 33k, not 20k. This is right from the horses mouth so whoever said 20k per month was either way off or this rsm is embellishing quite a bit.

this is part of one of the rsm's linkedin.
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

8 mil.
33k
20k
blah, blah, blah...

What did we bill in October? This number is scarier than ANYTHING that was roaming around yesterday (Halloween).
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

probably depends upon how many unpaid DT's there are floating around and how many rx's that billing "didn't receive".....blah blah blah. ok so a difference of 13k per month multiplied by how man reps and ic's across the country? That's blah blah blah? Wow, bet you would think different if your salary depended upon it. Oh, wait thats right you were fired.
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

so i'm very confused, I was thinking people posted that OBOS is doing better than ever and you say you are not there but yet you know what was billed last month? So I guess the new savior acl brace isn't so awesome??

So the old reps, ops and psr's that were there and fired, that you were just saying were so lazy, actually brought in more money? hmm, who is the loser now b*%#&
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

so i'm very confused, I was thinking people posted that OBOS is doing better than ever and you say you are not there but yet you know what was billed last month?
I don't think anyone knows what was billed last month yet. Maybe tomorrow? I think she was speaking in generalizations. I have yet to see any numbers but I can only guess the downward trend continues. Would be great to see some comparisons year to year, but there aren't any reps that go back more than a year and a half so there's no sense of history.

So the old reps, ops and psr's that were there and fired, that you were just saying were so lazy, actually brought in more money? hmm, who is the loser now b*%#&
That's what I keep hearing. What is the real reason they were fired then? It can't be laziness since every "fired" rep I've heard of is out in the field with all the business.
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

Most of the Reps that were fired was because the company didn't want reps with more experience telling new Reps what was going on.
The management wouldn't and couldn't mold the older Reps into what they wanted, thus worrying about the truth of the business being told to newer Reps
The new Reps get excited over Kneehab, BGS and an ACL brace that none of these can be profitable to most Reps as they will deal with companies that have focused on these products only, except maybe Kneehab, who is selling to other companies and therapy centers
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

Most of the Reps that were fired was because the company didn't want reps with more experience telling new Reps what was going on.

we were told that they wouldn't sign the revised commission plan and a no-compete. the old plan paid them commission even if they were fired regardless of when in the month. they got all commissions and bonus's earned even if they quit or got fired the first day of that month. and the old no-compete (some didn't even have one) was not good in most of the states.
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

There were only 3-4 reps that were let go for supposedly not signing the non compete and that was last November
They did pay their commissions and vacation time. Anyone let go even after signing the non compete, got their pay, commissions and unpaid vacation time and no severance at all, and benefits stopped the next day
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

is there anyone left at obos? whats the new news anyone? I'm excited to hear about a great acl brace. should be on all the college and nfl teams soon right?
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

Yes, it is a game-changer, you'll soon see. We've beat Donjoy to the punch and will finally kick them out of a lot of accounts. The DJO reps won't even know what hit em. Time to turn this ship around and start picking dollars off the money tree. So glad I stayed, OBOS kicks ass! You losers all left too soon!

My dox are all singing "hip-hip, hooray! Otto Bock has saved the day!"
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

that ACL brace is a joke and the DJ and Breg reps are already laughing, they put it on an insider at a small college in Arkansas and expect it to compete with DJ, really? The only reason it went on that player was the old Ark rep knew him and the Dr, and lived in Ark.
Wait till the first big hit and the rivets pop off
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

wow, we are still waiting for a rep to prove something that works???? I thought the reps were idiots. So the idiot who sold over 600 of the genu direxa in colorado and won a trip to Germany only to get back and get fired???? Not sure I understand? lets just lets successful people go right out the door!
 






Re: Orthopedic Sales Reps, Congratulations, you losers you are getting what you deser

Yes, it is a game-changer, you'll soon see. We've beat Donjoy to the punch and will finally kick them out of a lot of accounts. The DJO reps won't even know what hit em. Time to turn this ship around and start picking dollars off the money tree. So glad I stayed, OBOS kicks ass! You losers all left too soon!

My dox are all singing "hip-hip, hooray! Otto Bock has saved the day!"

Wait for it, wait for it......ohh still waiting. whoever posted this must know nothing about the business. DJO has reps that sit in sports medicine practices all day long just to fit a few braces. I'm really sure the docs will prefer to fax a rx or call tempe, az where the fax will probably be lost or the person answering the phone will not know the product that they are ordering for a patient, then wait a few days for verification then contact the patient and let them know they will be contacted by a delivery driver to fit the brace...heck why not just have the fed ex guy deliver and setup. they are drivers right? But yeah, OB has saved the day once again. I doubt the docs will want a djo person in their office fitting braces all day when they can have OB save the day!! Long story short, I can't wait to see OB acl braces........still waiting.