Offer details for AZ Diabetes contract







"counter offered"? What a fucking clown. This is a CSO job dipshit. A temp job at best. PSS is the lowest of the CSO's and won't pay you shit. Dipshits like you are hilarious is your delusional sense of self importance. If you don't take the offer they have a dozen other spoiled unemployed sample droppers and call fakers to take this low rent shit job asshole. lol


BRAVO! You have nailed it! And not only regarding this contract job, but all pharmaceutical positions. I can't believe pharmaceutical rep entitlement mentalities. Everyone in the industry needs to get real....but how can they with their fake nails, fake boobs and fake calls? This job has been dumbed down so much that a trained monkey can carry around an ipad and check the box. Get over yourself and be glad you have what you have....go out and make calls everyday and stop bitching about your poor miserable 60k a year part time job that nobody gives a shit about!
 






I was offered 58k. The rest of the stuff was normal. I will galdly take it.

Anyone catch more info on the "vacation days" Not that it matters, because I'm happy to have a job, but did they say you can only use 1 a month? Just trying to get a feel for it.

I look forward to training with everyone, especially wherever it may be the week of Aug. 5th.
 






I was offered 58k. The rest of the stuff was normal. I will galdly take it.

Anyone catch more info on the "vacation days" Not that it matters, because I'm happy to have a job, but did they say you can only use 1 a month? Just trying to get a feel for it.

I look forward to training with everyone, especially wherever it may be the week of Aug. 5th.

I was told I would have 4 vacation days in 2013 and 10 days in 2014. I don't remember being told I could only use 1 day per month.
 






BRAVO! You have nailed it! And not only regarding this contract job, but all pharmaceutical positions. I can't believe pharmaceutical rep entitlement mentalities. Everyone in the industry needs to get real....but how can they with their fake nails, fake boobs and fake calls? This job has been dumbed down so much that a trained monkey can carry around an ipad and check the box. Get over yourself and be glad you have what you have....go out and make calls everyday and stop bitching about your poor miserable 60k a year part time job that nobody gives a shit about!

Well said. Thank you!
 






BRAVO! You have nailed it! And not only regarding this contract job, but all pharmaceutical positions. I can't believe pharmaceutical rep entitlement mentalities. Everyone in the industry needs to get real....but how can they with their fake nails, fake boobs and fake calls? This job has been dumbed down so much that a trained monkey can carry around an ipad and check the box. Get over yourself and be glad you have what you have....go out and make calls everyday and stop bitching about your poor miserable 60k a year part time job that nobody gives a shit about!

Your bitter and jealous.
 






I was offered 58k. The rest of the stuff was normal. I will galdly take it.

Anyone catch more info on the "vacation days" Not that it matters, because I'm happy to have a job, but did they say you can only use 1 a month? Just trying to get a feel for it.

I look forward to training with everyone, especially wherever it may be the week of Aug. 5th.

I was offered this afternoon and was offered the maximum at 61k, that's what they told me anyway. Have to take a piss test tomorrow, 4 vaca days for 1st year then 10 the 2nd year. 1st day on the job is July 19th, beats unemployment
 






Your bitter and jealous.

Not bitter...not jealous at all.

I didn't apply for this position so I have no horse in the race. I am an experienced, gainfully employed rep, in the business, but not pharmaceuticals. I just happened to be reading the conversation.

I was a pharma rep for many years and have seen what this business has become. It's not about "sales" and never was...it's about detailing information and "suggesting" to physicians why to use product A over B. This is why it is difficult to transition to something else in the business world. Because other industry has no respect for what we do. They think pharma reps are over paid prima-donna's who think they are something special and garner high wages and perks. It's the house that pharma built and has ruined many great, smart people who could have done so much more with their life. These jobs are thankless, part time, mindless, check the box so it looks good at home office positions where top salary should be 40K a year, period!

Wake up and smell the reality. This is why the positions are going away and why contract is so pervasive. Because all are "throw away" positions. Use you for 2 years and then get kicked to the curb...contract and otherwise.

I was one of those, but found another position. Had to leave the comfort of pharma, but still call on physicians and am making more money than ever before with no micromanagement and no checking the box.

You are all capable of so much more but need to keep an open mind, apply yourself and take control of and responsibility for your future.

Good luck to everyone. I hope it offers you longterm employment, but I know better.
 






Not bitter...not jealous at all.

I didn't apply for this position so I have no horse in the race. I am an experienced, gainfully employed rep, in the business, but not pharmaceuticals. I just happened to be reading the conversation.

I was a pharma rep for many years and have seen what this business has become. It's not about "sales" and never was...it's about detailing information and "suggesting" to physicians why to use product A over B. This is why it is difficult to transition to something else in the business world. Because other industry has no respect for what we do. They think pharma reps are over paid prima-donna's who think they are something special and garner high wages and perks. It's the house that pharma built and has ruined many great, smart people who could have done so much more with their life. These jobs are thankless, part time, mindless, check the box so it looks good at home office positions where top salary should be 40K a year, period!

Wake up and smell the reality. This is why the positions are going away and why contract is so pervasive. Because all are "throw away" positions. Use you for 2 years and then get kicked to the curb...contract and otherwise.

I was one of those, but found another position. Had to leave the comfort of pharma, but still call on physicians and am making more money than ever before with no micromanagement and no checking the box.

You are all capable of so much more but need to keep an open mind, apply yourself and take control of and responsibility for your future.

Good luck to everyone. I hope it offers you longterm employment, but I know better.



Just curious as to what type of job do you have? What is a good job to transition to from pharm rep?
 






Not bitter...not jealous at all.

I didn't apply for this position so I have no horse in the race. I am an experienced, gainfully employed rep, in the business, but not pharmaceuticals. I just happened to be reading the conversation.

I was a pharma rep for many years and have seen what this business has become. It's not about "sales" and never was...it's about detailing information and "suggesting" to physicians why to use product A over B. This is why it is difficult to transition to something else in the business world. Because other industry has no respect for what we do. They think pharma reps are over paid prima-donna's who think they are something special and garner high wages and perks. It's the house that pharma built and has ruined many great, smart people who could have done so much more with their life. These jobs are thankless, part time, mindless, check the box so it looks good at home office positions where top salary should be 40K a year, period!

Wake up and smell the reality. This is why the positions are going away and why contract is so pervasive. Because all are "throw away" positions. Use you for 2 years and then get kicked to the curb...contract and otherwise.

I was one of those, but found another position. Had to leave the comfort of pharma, but still call on physicians and am making more money than ever before with no micromanagement and no checking the box.

You are all capable of so much more but need to keep an open mind, apply yourself and take control of and responsibility for your future.

Good luck to everyone. I hope it offers you longterm employment, but I know better.


My thoughts precisely! I'm a tenured pharma rep that was downsized from big pharma several years ago and have been working contract. I've been so demoralized by this mindless and thankless job- as you expressed so well in your post- so many of us are wasting our talents in pharma. I have a final interview coming up in another field and I am thrilled and excited about the possibility of finally getting out for good. I hope more pharma reps take your sound advice... thanks again, reading your post was a great confirmation of what I already knew was the direction I was going to take
 






Just curious as to what type of job do you have? What is a good job to transition to from pharm rep?

I was downsized, again, and got hired by a compound pharmacy. There are many out there, some are rather shotty, but I am working for a very professional organization and what we do is really helping patients. I have no ride-alongs, no computer around my ankle, no call plan, no business plan, no POA's. I just make the calls and build on the relationships I already had...thank you pharma for the expensive data I now am using to MY advantage!

I am making more money than I ever did before and honestly can say I have job satisfaction at the end of the day. I am my own boss and rewarded for exactly what I earn.
 






My thoughts precisely! I'm a tenured pharma rep that was downsized from big pharma several years ago and have been working contract. I've been so demoralized by this mindless and thankless job- as you expressed so well in your post- so many of us are wasting our talents in pharma. I have a final interview coming up in another field and I am thrilled and excited about the possibility of finally getting out for good. I hope more pharma reps take your sound advice... thanks again, reading your post was a great confirmation of what I already knew was the direction I was going to take

Its always difficult to give up what you know and the comfort of pharmaceuticals for all the reasons we enjoy so well. Hoping you can break out of your golden handcuffs for good and have job satisfaction and pride about what you do when you get the new position.

Good Luck
 












I was downsized, again, and got hired by a compound pharmacy. There are many out there, some are rather shotty, but I am working for a very professional organization and what we do is really helping patients. I have no ride-alongs, no computer around my ankle, no call plan, no business plan, no POA's. I just make the calls and build on the relationships I already had...thank you pharma for the expensive data I now am using to MY advantage!

I am making more money than I ever did before and honestly can say I have job satisfaction at the end of the day. I am my own boss and rewarded for exactly what I earn.

Good for you
 






























I probably shouldn't be, but am surprised at the attitude of entitlement that some reps have that interviewed for this position.

More than one UNEMPLOYED candidate scoffed at a very fair offer that would pay them 4-5 times what they are currently making with their unemployment, plus benefits of course..

In addition, one would think that it's common sense that someone in an expensive area to live should be paid a few thousand more than someone in an inexpensive area. If you live in an area where you can buy an average home for $150,000 or rent a decent apartment for $1000 a month: someone living where it's 2-3 times that has to be compensated a least a little more. Wouldn't you say? It's called Cost of Living! You really think someone in Small Rural town USA should be paid the same as someone in NYC, DC,San Francisco or San Diego? Get a grip.

It really doesn't matter what you made 5 or 10 years ago, either. Please don't expect that, anymore. Those days are gone, people.

O.k., I'm done venting. :)

disagree.... you choose to live in an exspensive place....I would buy your argument if you were asked to move there or were promoted. I lived in the bay area would have loved to SF but I did not want to be house "poor".
You are very self involved person....corporate America does not to support your cool urban life style you are just a rep.If you like living NYC accept the fact that you will have to have less disposable income or become a very valuable asset such as a ceo etc where they pay you a Cola.
 






Anyone know what to put down in step 2 for the AMEX application for billing address? Do you put your address or the HR company address? Either way, neither one fits in the line.