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These tools have been implemented for Rep's safety. Lilly cares about our safety and this ensures we when Drive, we give 100% of our focus on the wheel and driving. I am glad Lilly cares about our safety enough and is willing to invest things like this for the sake of our safety. Lilly is a good company and this is just one more example of how much management cares about us. Thank you Lilly for installing these safety measures that will keep us safe.
 












anonymous said:
These tools have been implemented for Rep's safety. Lilly cares about our safety and this ensures we when Drive, we give 100% of our focus on the wheel and driving. I am glad Lilly cares about our safety enough and is willing to invest things like this for the sake of our safety. Lilly is a good company and this is just one more example of how much management cares about us. Thank you Lilly for installing these safety measures that will keep us safe.
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Your manager will be able to track you as you go buy your Sun Flowers for your offices to brighten up their Summer day.
 






anonymous said:
I wonder if upper management anticipated the negative response to the tracking device. Lilly is a great company because the reps care. I've been at other companies and Lilly is different in a good way. However, gps trackers are a guaranteed way to get the sales force to feel less trusted. It inspires a "cover my a.." mentality which slowly stokes the fire of resentment towards management. It all ends in a ME over WE mentality because no one trusts each other.
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These negative responses will help HR to weed out the undesirables. Those who hold Lilly back from reaching it's full potential. These scumbag complainers need to go.
 






anonymous said:
These negative responses will help HR to weed out the undesirables. Those who hold Lilly back from reaching it's full potential. These scumbag complainers need to go.
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Spoken like a true HR person!! I think they should install a device that measures when you leave your desk, how many times and how much time you spend in the bathroom, who you talk to, what you talk about and have a video setup at your desk to record your every movement and then we can talk you a_ _ hole!!
 
























With the technology available today, there is really only one way to stop this sort of thing and that is to unionize.

The only way companies will stop using stuff like this is if they are forced to do so. Having to deal with a union would be the best way. The only other possible alternative would be laws dictating that if you want to use such data to fire someone that their data must be compared to their counterparts in their district, region or even nation and ALL discrepancies exposed by the tracking data must be addressed in the same manner. No company is going to want to open up that can of worms as they would have no reps left!

Bottom line is that they will continue to do this to us until they are made to stop. A union or the law is the only way I see but I'm open to other thoughts.
 






anonymous said:
With the technology available today, there is really only one way to stop this sort of thing and that is to unionize.

The only way companies will stop using stuff like this is if they are forced to do so. Having to deal with a union would be the best way. The only other possible alternative would be laws dictating that if you want to use such data to fire someone that their data must be compared to their counterparts in their district, region or even nation and ALL discrepancies exposed by the tracking data must be addressed in the same manner. No company is going to want to open up that can of worms as they would have no reps left!

Bottom line is that they will continue to do this to us until they are made to stop. A union or the law is the only way I see but I'm open to other thoughts.
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Thanks Bernie Sanders. How about a monthly annual income from the government as well? Your hero Zuckerberg just talked about it at the Harvard commencement.
 












anonymous said:
Thanks Bernie Sanders. How about a monthly annual income from the government as well? Your hero Zuckerberg just talked about it at the Harvard commencement.
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Good grief!

I'm as free market as they come, but regardless.

Two questions:

Do you see a problem and potential abuse with all the tracking technology?


If so, what do you propose as a solution?
 






anonymous said:
Good grief!

I'm as free market as they come, but regardless.

Two questions:

Do you see a problem and potential abuse with all the tracking technology?


If so, what do you propose as a solution?
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Yes. If you want to stay in sales, go technology. If not, then learn to write code...Python, C++, C#, hell even SQL. Artificial Intelligence is the future. The third-world people are only order takers, and technology needs quality people with good communication skills. Else...go get your shinebox.
 






I just noticed my OnStar light on my rearview mirror in my 2015 Equinox is green. I checked out OnStar and it's activated and fully functional. My car has wifi and everything.

Also, when I took my last "test" on driver safety, there was a paragraph that said, a Lilly employee cannot expect privacy in their company provided vehicle". I took a picture of that just because I couldn't believe that was just tossed in the middle of the course.

I was not notified that I had active OnStar and honestly, that only bothers me because I feel like if Lilly felt it was a nice addition to company benefits, they would have proudly shared that. Since they secretly had it turned on, I feel they are trying to be sneaky in tracking our every move.

Is anyone else noticing they have active OnStar? If no one else does, maybe I'm on the chopping block.
 












anonymous said:
I just noticed my OnStar light on my rearview mirror in my 2015 Equinox is green. I checked out OnStar and it's activated and fully functional. My car has wifi and everything.

Also, when I took my last "test" on driver safety, there was a paragraph that said, a Lilly employee cannot expect privacy in their company provided vehicle". I took a picture of that just because I couldn't believe that was just tossed in the middle of the course.

I was not notified that I had active OnStar and honestly, that only bothers me because I feel like if Lilly felt it was a nice addition to company benefits, they would have proudly shared that. Since they secretly had it turned on, I feel they are trying to be sneaky in tracking our every move.

Is anyone else noticing they have active OnStar? If no one else does, maybe I'm on the chopping block.
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Future RIFs are imminent. Geo-tracking is a common HR practice for collecting data that can help in smart-sizing the sales force. It's proven to be very successful for companies that need immediate cost reductions.
 






anonymous said:
Future RIFs are imminent. Geo-tracking is a common HR practice for collecting data that can help in smart-sizing the sales force. It's proven to be very successful for companies that need immediate cost reductions.
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Well, than I'd be fine if they are tracking me. I actually love the job and leave early and do my job all day. Honestly! I just wish they wouldn't hide it from us.

But the other thing you said worries me. Do you think all divisions at Lilly will be laying off? I've been here 20 years and have never had that happen.
 












anonymous said:
Well, than I'd be fine if they are tracking me. I actually love the job and leave early and do my job all day. Honestly! I just wish they wouldn't hide it from us.

But the other thing you said worries me. Do you think all divisions at Lilly will be laying off? I've been here 20 years and have never had that happen.
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If you're fine with it then you're a fool.
Its not about being a dedicated, hard-working employee trying to do their job. It's about the fact that with tracking all it takes is one, just one, transgression of the rules to destroy a career of many years. Take off just one Friday afternoon, even to do company work, and you are technically in violation and subject not to some proportionate punishment but to termination. That's just stupid. There is nothing about tracking that is a positive for reps, I don't care how conscientious or hard working you are. It can't help you. It can only hurt you.
 






anonymous said:
If you're fine with it then you're a fool.
Its not about being a dedicated, hard-working employee trying to do their job. It's about the fact that with tracking all it takes is one, just one, transgression of the rules to destroy a career of many years. Take off just one Friday afternoon, even to do company work, and you are technically in violation and subject not to some proportionate punishment but to termination. That's just stupid. There is nothing about tracking that is a positive for reps, I don't care how conscientious or hard working you are. It can't help you. It can only hurt you.
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Honey, if you take off a Friday afternoon to do Administrative work then document it in VEEVA as Administrative time. It isn't that difficult.

If you put in calls you didn't make that is called FALSIFYING COMPANY documents and is cause for termination.

All three of your company owned pieces of equipment (company issued car, iPad, and phone) you use ever day can be tracked and if you think otherwise you are still living in the 1990's. All equipment can be tracked 24/7.

Just do your job and document seeing customers when you see them in their office and you have nothing to worry about. If you have to do administrative work document as away time in VEEVA and don't enter calls on customers you didn't see. Don't make your job difficult. Thanks to technology, you can't put in fake calls while golfing or shopping and get away with it.
 






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