Michelle Breitenbach Pleaded Guilty Today











































You should all be very scared that the AG can bully someone into taking a deal for something which is a common business practice.
This is nauseating.


These are indeed interesting times we live in. The idea that because something is common, it cannot be wrong, seems to have gained wide credibility. Likewise, repeating a lie, " Everyone else is doing it" somehow makes it OK.

Ethics, like everything else, exists on a continuum. Some people's are sound and guide their behavior properly, others have no ethical/moral compass. Their behavior is not constrained by any messy concept of right or wrong.

I always question the motives of those who tell me what, or who, to fear. More often than not, they are actually quite frightening.
Applying the now popular, "bullying" label to enforcement of our laws is both inaccurate, (a lie) and improper (wrong).

You might save your nausea for a visit to the NICU where you will see some of the innocent drug-addicted newborns, suffering the results of what you refer to as "common business practices."
I dare you to hold one of them, trembling uncontrollably, and crying incessantly, unable to sleep, eat or even be comforted. But that's not your fault now is it ?
 






These are indeed interesting times we live in. The idea that because something is common, it cannot be wrong, seems to have gained wide credibility. Likewise, repeating a lie, " Everyone else is doing it" somehow makes it OK.

Ethics, like everything else, exists on a continuum. Some people's are sound and guide their behavior properly, others have no ethical/moral compass. Their behavior is not constrained by any messy concept of right or wrong.

I always question the motives of those who tell me what, or who, to fear. More often than not, they are actually quite frightening.
Applying the now popular, "bullying" label to enforcement of our laws is both inaccurate, (a lie) and improper (wrong).

You might save your nausea for a visit to the NICU where you will see some of the innocent drug-addicted newborns, suffering the results of what you refer to as "common business practices."
I dare you to hold one of them, trembling uncontrollably, and crying incessantly, unable to sleep, eat or even be comforted. But that's not your fault now is it ?

Excellent
 






These are indeed interesting times we live in. The idea that because something is common, it cannot be wrong, seems to have gained wide credibility. Likewise, repeating a lie, " Everyone else is doing it" somehow makes it OK.

Ethics, like everything else, exists on a continuum. Some people's are sound and guide their behavior properly, others have no ethical/moral compass. Their behavior is not constrained by any messy concept of right or wrong.

I always question the motives of those who tell me what, or who, to fear. More often than not, they are actually quite frightening.
Applying the now popular, "bullying" label to enforcement of our laws is both inaccurate, (a lie) and improper (wrong).

You might save your nausea for a visit to the NICU where you will see some of the innocent drug-addicted newborns, suffering the results of what you refer to as "common business practices."
I dare you to hold one of them, trembling uncontrollably, and crying incessantly, unable to sleep, eat or even be comforted. But that's not your fault now is it ?

“Ethics live on a continuium”.

Save your preaching.

A sales rep’s job is to is to convince a doctor that their drug is better than another. If the doctor was going to prescribe this opioid over another that isn’t adding to the problem.
Even if the very common practice of speaker programs is gray, the concept of an innocent drug addicted baby is not on a sales rep. Now if the doctor is prescribing an opioid to a patient who otherwise would not have gotten an opioid, that is dispicible. But THAT isn’t on the sales rep.

But speaking of ethics. Is it ethical for prosecutors to bully single moms into plea deals, post their picture, and perp walk them to score cheap political points when it will do NOTHING to curb the “opioid problem”. But, hey, the NJ AG is proud of this. It’s tweeted right under click it or ticket program. They are really going after the big fish - making criminals out of as many people as possible to justify their existence.

Yeah. Preach to me about ethics.
 






You’ve always got what you wanted with sex or sex appeal. But now you’re vagina can’t get you out if this situation. It doesn’t make the prosecutors bullies. Maybe it’s because you’re old and lost it, but it’s probably because THEY have ethics.
 






“Ethics live on a continuium”.

Save your preaching.

A sales rep’s job is to is to convince a doctor that their drug is better than another. If the doctor was going to prescribe this opioid over another that isn’t adding to the problem.
Even if the very common practice of speaker programs is gray, the concept of an innocent drug addicted baby is not on a sales rep. Now if the doctor is prescribing an opioid to a patient who otherwise would not have gotten an opioid, that is dispicible. But THAT isn’t on the sales rep.

But speaking of ethics. Is it ethical for prosecutors to bully single moms into plea deals, post their picture, and perp walk them to score cheap political points when it will do NOTHING to curb the “opioid problem”. But, hey, the NJ AG is proud of this. It’s tweeted right under click it or ticket program. They are really going after the big fish - making criminals out of as many people as possible to justify their existence.

Yeah. Preach to me about ethics.[/QUOTe

I don't preach. I don't go to church. I'm a confirmed agnostic. People like you, however, have shown me the face of evil. So I assume there's a hell waiting for you someday.
 






You’ve always got what you wanted with sex or sex appeal. But now you’re vagina can’t get you out if this situation. It doesn’t make the prosecutors bullies. Maybe it’s because you’re old and lost it, but it’s probably because THEY have ethics.

She either stole your boyfriend or you’re an x boyfriend she dumped
 






You’ve always got what you wanted with sex or sex appeal. But now you’re vagina can’t get you out if this situation. It doesn’t make the prosecutors bullies. Maybe it’s because you’re old and lost it, but it’s probably because THEY have ethics.

I really do love these boards. There are so many people but they all fall into a few categories. Sometimes it is fun to guess.

1. (and the most popular on this board): Former employees who come on just for the pure schadenfreude.
2. Current employees who can't leave because they are toxic in the pharma world.
3. People or family members who were adversely affected by "the opioid crisis" looking for others to blame.
4. Doctors who are looking if anyone is ratting on them
5. Government officials looking for who to talk to next (yes, your tax dollars at work)
6. People who are long or short the stock trying to figure when to sell or cover.
7. Ex-boyfriends.
8. Girls who have had their guy stolen and so they are trying to spread rumors.

I am #6.

And you are likely #7. She must have really done a number on you for you to waste all your time on here.
If you're #8, get over it. He was going to leave you anyway.
 












I really do love these boards. There are so many people but they all fall into a few categories. Sometimes it is fun to guess.

1. (and the most popular on this board): Former employees who come on just for the pure schadenfreude.
2. Current employees who can't leave because they are toxic in the pharma world.
3. People or family members who were adversely affected by "the opioid crisis" looking for others to blame.
4. Doctors who are looking if anyone is ratting on them
5. Government officials looking for who to talk to next (yes, your tax dollars at work)
6. People who are long or short the stock trying to figure when to sell or cover.
7. Ex-boyfriends.
8. Girls who have had their guy stolen and so they are trying to spread rumors.

I am #6.

And you are likely #7. She must have really done a number on you for you to waste all your time on here.
If you're #8, get over it. He was going to leave you anyway.

You are actually #9- a middle aged corrupt TROLL with an enlarged prostate with no life and a wife who could be a spokesmodel for Dairy Queen.
 






not a fan of mb, but this thread makes me sick. mb should not have plead guilty, she was a victim herself. bullied by the government like so many others. probably threatened to lose her daughter, etc. anyone with NO prior pharma experience is NOT guilty!! they were hired and brainwashed into thinking this was normal in the industry. FU AG. you may have bullied her into a plea deal but the superior court is looking into your unscrupulous abuse of power and unethical practices!
 


















You're ALL guilty. The big pharma corporations, the sales reps, the doctors and the political affiliates. Everyone is guilty for certain injustices, none greater or lesser than the rest. The big pharma's care nothing except for prescription metrics and revenue. The sales reps and their managers just cared about rewards in the form of compensation, presidents clubs, etc. The doctors are offsetting the screw jobs they've been getting from insurance companies for years and prescribe whatever suits their current finacial needs based on bribes. Political affiliates look for "kudos" from the public and press for "combating the opioid crisis" by taking down whoever is associated with the industry no matter how great or small. No one is without sin here and everyone has a level of guilt that they need to accept blame for.

None of you walk on water and everyone has a role to play in this horrible epidemic, including those who can't shake the addiction. No one, including those above forces anyone to become an addict. The only innocent party is the children as they are the only innocents here. The newborns referenced earlier. They didn't ask for this life. They had nothing to gain. They are the only ones that deserve any semblance of remorse.

The rest of you are all victims and criminals in you your own right. Accept it, move on and try to do better next time around. This back and forth is pointless. Justice may or may not be served, but the shaking infants only benefit by prevention, not mindless chatter bantering back and forth.

Everyone is guilty here despite the deflection that tries to prove otherwise.