Merck will reap what it sows...Ever heard of Karmic retrobution?

Nope. Sorry. Free market=competition. If you are 'better' as you say you are-prove it. Out sell your competitor. Out perform your peers. In the end, you will have the job you want. So, you have to work longer hours-so does the CEO. They deserve the bonuses they get and high salary because they make the tough choices. Including those that result in letting go of the whiners.

How far? Just like the teachers. They took lower pay for better benefits. Now we can't afford it. Tough. Fire them if they don't like it. Same thing here.

To save costs for the company we need to trim costs. The single biggest cost to any company is the employee.

Trim the overpaid worker-that is free market capitalism.

"Outsell your competitor"????

Have you ever had a real sales job? If you think that success in this industry is at the individual closer level, you are truly a fool. There is absolutely no correlation between effort, proficiency, and outcome in pharma. You are probably from West Virginia, where having formulary success, driven by the contracting of others, allows you to go to the track during the summer and the slopes during the winter, 10 hours a day.

I read vapid posts like yours, where arrogance is only eclipsed by ignorance, and understand why this industry is in the loo.
 






Tell us what "tough" choices our new CEO has made to make over $10 million. I cant wait to hear this one.

making the calls to layoff people to make the dividend for the share holders. Clearly, you wouldn't make that call. That is why they get the pay they do. You need to realize this is a business to make money. The best way to do that is to cut the employees. They're too damn expensive.

Think about it-if you had your own business you would do the same thing.

Capitalism vs socialism. Capitalism wins-hands down.
 






"Outsell your competitor"????

Have you ever had a real sales job? If you think that success in this industry is at the individual closer level, you are truly a fool. There is absolutely no correlation between effort, proficiency, and outcome in pharma. You are probably from West Virginia, where having formulary success, driven by the contracting of others, allows you to go to the track during the summer and the slopes during the winter, 10 hours a day.

I read vapid posts like yours, where arrogance is only eclipsed by ignorance, and understand why this industry is in the loo.

Well, then. You've proved my point. Get rid of the non-essential sales people. Trim the payroll and watch the stock go up.

Bye-bye Mr. Socialism.
 






making the calls to layoff people to make the dividend for the share holders. Clearly, you wouldn't make that call. That is why they get the pay they do. You need to realize this is a business to make money. The best way to do that is to cut the employees. They're too damn expensive.

Think about it-if you had your own business you would do the same thing.

Capitalism vs socialism. Capitalism wins-hands down.

"Lets see, as the CEO, I know our profits are down-way down. Now, I cant take a cut in pay-I need to keep my $14 million dollar bonus. How can I do that when we dont have as much coming in? Well, I guess that means Im going to have to cut some jobs!"

Yeah, real tough decision there frog-balls. The attempt at strange words lets me know you a little...well, strange. Stick with your attitude and we will see what you have to say after your job has been eliminated. But thats ok-right-because its all for the share-holders and whatever they do is right. Get a grip on life little boy. There's this little fancy word called "greed" and no matter how you wordsmith your way through it, its not good. I know all about socialism and capitalism. Lots of good companies out there that realize their number one resource is people. To book theory people like you, we are nothing but an expense. Try building your company by yourself-with no other employees-and tell us how good that works out for you. After all, why hire others if they are nothing but an expense! Wow-go back to school little one.
 






I am a Republican, but your straight arm Republican approach is a little too simplistic and naive. There are many who thought that building a career with such a respectable and great company would be worth a lot. Believe it or not, there was a day when all this job hopping didnt look good on a resume-and Im not sure it still does. But, even though we might have disagreed with our Democratic Merck employees, we all pulled for each other. Now all we get is pure greed from the top. While jobs are being eliminated at an astounding pace, our CEO's are walking away with somewhere in the area of $10-15 million dollar bonuses(every year) while our friends are losing their jobs. Other board of directors are also walking away with millions of dollars. Your atttitude of employees whining and sounding like a bunch of spoiled teachers and union workers doesnt quite fit. Some of us are just bothered by how far this once great company has fallen. And, just telling employees "if you dont like it leave" is a little simple. What happens when a bunch of good quality people leave for another company? Tell me how that makes Merck better.

As the other poster noted 'these aren't real sales jobs.' Oh so much the better to lay them off. Hire CSO-pay only a low salary-get rid of the high priced reps and save a lot of money.
If you were truly a Republican you would know this by now. Clearly, you would've voted to raise the taxes on the richest 5% of the people in the country. Socialist. Trying to take their money when they earned it and you didn't.
 






"Lets see, as the CEO, I know our profits are down-way down. Now, I cant take a cut in pay-I need to keep my $14 million dollar bonus. How can I do that when we dont have as much coming in? Well, I guess that means Im going to have to cut some jobs!"

Yeah, real tough decision there frog-balls. The attempt at strange words lets me know you a little...well, strange. Stick with your attitude and we will see what you have to say after your job has been eliminated. But thats ok-right-because its all for the share-holders and whatever they do is right. Get a grip on life little boy. There's this little fancy word called "greed" and no matter how you wordsmith your way through it, its not good. I know all about socialism and capitalism. Lots of good companies out there that realize their number one resource is people. To book theory people like you, we are nothing but an expense. Try building your company by yourself-with no other employees-and tell us how good that works out for you. After all, why hire others if they are nothing but an expense! Wow-go back to school little one.


Nope. People are an expense that cannot be written off in the tax code. Take a business course and you will see. As far as building a company without employees take a look at how Wall Street makes money. Invest and pressure companies to consolidate. When they do-layoffs around the corner. Stock goes up-Wall Street wins!

Not wordsmithing. Just a fact.

Greed is good. You just happen to be on the low end of the payout. I'm doing just fine with my investments and temporary work here. I can move on anytime they want to make it happen. Yup, that's right-I'm your neighborhood millionaire. Suck on it.

Take a look around the country-your socialist ways are ending. Once we repeal the healthcare mandate and cut the entitlements-Capitalism grows! Thank goodness we elected the new House and a lot of Republican governors to undo the socialist crap that has happened in the last 2 years.

It is because of whiners, socialists and cry babies like you that this country is in the mess it is in. If the government would just get off the backs of industry the economy (and my investments) would be booming even more!

Greed is good-of course, except for you! Oh, but I'm sure you're wiling to raise the taxes on your fellow worker-right?!
 












Nope. People are an expense that cannot be written off in the tax code. Take a business course and you will see. As far as building a company without employees take a look at how Wall Street makes money. Invest and pressure companies to consolidate. When they do-layoffs around the corner. Stock goes up-Wall Street wins!

Not wordsmithing. Just a fact.

Greed is good. You just happen to be on the low end of the payout. I'm doing just fine with my investments and temporary work here. I can move on anytime they want to make it happen. Yup, that's right-I'm your neighborhood millionaire. Suck on it.

Take a look around the country-your socialist ways are ending. Once we repeal the healthcare mandate and cut the entitlements-Capitalism grows! Thank goodness we elected the new House and a lot of Republican governors to undo the socialist crap that has happened in the last 2 years.

It is because of whiners, socialists and cry babies like you that this country is in the mess it is in. If the government would just get off the backs of industry the economy (and my investments) would be booming even more!

Greed is good-of course, except for you! Oh, but I'm sure you're wiling to raise the taxes on your fellow worker-right?!

To quote John Maynard Keynes "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone."
 






Nope. People are an expense that cannot be written off in the tax code. Take a business course and you will see. As far as building a company without employees take a look at how Wall Street makes money. Invest and pressure companies to consolidate. When they do-layoffs around the corner. Stock goes up-Wall Street wins!

Not wordsmithing. Just a fact.

Greed is good. You just happen to be on the low end of the payout. I'm doing just fine with my investments and temporary work here. I can move on anytime they want to make it happen. Yup, that's right-I'm your neighborhood millionaire. Suck on it.

Take a look around the country-your socialist ways are ending. Once we repeal the healthcare mandate and cut the entitlements-Capitalism grows! Thank goodness we elected the new House and a lot of Republican governors to undo the socialist crap that has happened in the last 2 years.

It is because of whiners, socialists and cry babies like you that this country is in the mess it is in. If the government would just get off the backs of industry the economy (and my investments) would be booming even more!

Greed is good-of course, except for you! Oh, but I'm sure you're wiling to raise the taxes on your fellow worker-right?!

New poster here....all politics and economics aside, I hope you are a charitable person. You can't take it with you. Remember, after this life, it's either heaven or hell.
 






Nope. People are an expense that cannot be written off in the tax code. Take a business course and you will see. As far as building a company without employees take a look at how Wall Street makes money. Invest and pressure companies to consolidate. When they do-layoffs around the corner. Stock goes up-Wall Street wins!

Not wordsmithing. Just a fact.

Greed is good. You just happen to be on the low end of the payout. I'm doing just fine with my investments and temporary work here. I can move on anytime they want to make it happen. Yup, that's right-I'm your neighborhood millionaire. Suck on it.

Take a look around the country-your socialist ways are ending. Once we repeal the healthcare mandate and cut the entitlements-Capitalism grows! Thank goodness we elected the new House and a lot of Republican governors to undo the socialist crap that has happened in the last 2 years.

It is because of whiners, socialists and cry babies like you that this country is in the mess it is in. If the government would just get off the backs of industry the economy (and my investments) would be booming even more!

Greed is good-of course, except for you! Oh, but I'm sure you're wiling to raise the taxes on your fellow worker-right?!

"Greed is good.."

Need I say more? You're an idiot. I am a conservative. Who said anything about supporting Obama? I just told you earlier that I was a Republican. But like a typical Limbaugh disciple, you think if you say something over and over and over again that it makes your point. It doesnt work that way lips. You sound like the kind of person who will run over anybody in order to make your "investments." Nice. You give Republicans a bad name. I dont know if you know it or not, but your standing on an island in this thread. Read the other comments to your lame thinking. Unbelievable. You must be a bit of a liar as well. If you were a millionaire, you wouldnt be selling pharmaceuticals. Another Merck big-talker. Get that resume ready young one. "Suck on it." Nice. Get an education. Oh, wait, maybe you did but your one of those who cant think for themselves. You one of those guys who listens to Limbaugh day in and day out? Keep up the strong work.
 






"Greed is good.."

Need I say more? You're an idiot. I am a conservative. Who said anything about supporting Obama? I just told you earlier that I was a Republican. But like a typical Limbaugh disciple, you think if you say something over and over and over again that it makes your point. It doesn't work that way lips. You sound like the kind of person who will run over anybody in order to make your "investments." Nice. You give Republicans a bad name. I don't know if you know it or not, but your standing on an island in this thread. Read the other comments to your lame thinking. Unbelievable. You must be a bit of a liar as well. If you were a millionaire, you wouldn't be selling pharmaceuticals. Another Merck big-talker. Get that resume ready young one. "Suck on it." Nice. Get an education. Oh, wait, maybe you did but your one of those who cant think for themselves. You one of those guys who listens to Limbaugh day in and day out? Keep up the strong work.

Limbaugh is arrogant at times. He loves himself too much at times. But he does make some good points, such as reminding us of the double standard applied to those mobs in Madison, WI with words like "targeting". A conservative of sound mind should be able to listen to Limbaugh or Hannity and pick out a few good points and choose to ignore the absurdities. Some of us are close to be a millionaire, have a few years to go, and want to max out the pension and benefits before saying goodbye to the Crazy Merck. You'll find us at meetings, low key, don't jump up and applaud everything, cross our arms when the talking head on stage would say something like, "You are our best assets!". :)
 






Limbaugh is arrogant at times. He loves himself too much at times. But he does make some good points, such as reminding us of the double standard applied to those mobs in Madison, WI with words like "targeting". A conservative of sound mind should be able to listen to Limbaugh or Hannity and pick out a few good points and choose to ignore the absurdities. Some of us are close to be a millionaire, have a few years to go, and want to max out the pension and benefits before saying goodbye to the Crazy Merck. You'll find us at meetings, low key, don't jump up and applaud everything, cross our arms when the talking head on stage would say something like, "You are our best assets!". :)

Limbaugh is arrogant a lot. Hannity is a bigger hypocrite than Rush. Many years ago when complaining vehemently about Micheal Moore-who I cant stand-coming out to lecture at a local university for $60,000, Hannity goes on the air to say how awful that was. "I will come out there and debate Moore and I wont charge the university at all for speaking." The next week, the papers reported that although he wouldnt charge said university for speaking, he would charge them for security, air travel, hotel, meals, etc. Guess how much that bill came out to be? $60,000. University never invited him. I did notice your other words though-"crazy Merck". You have made my earlier point for me without even realizing it. If things were so good with how this company operates, you wouldnt be referring to it as crazy. I understand your desire to make as much money as you can, and I agree with you on that. But, I dont agree that cutting jobs at our level while the fat cats who bring no value to the comany(revenue stream that is)whack peoples jobs. They do not work hard, despite what you have been lead to believe. I do agree with Walker. I do agree with Christie. I do agree with the double standard. I do agree that the unions are bad. But, Walker and Christie wouldnt agree with you and your greed. Also of note, your ability to "pick out a few points...ignore the absurdities." Interesting. Some would call that cherry picking for you to make your points, which never is a good footing to base your reasoning on.
 






New poster here....all politics and economics aside, I hope you are a charitable person. You can't take it with you. Remember, after this life, it's either heaven or hell.

Sure, I give to the corporation at Sandals Resort. Sometimes, I even give 'the Donald' some of my money.

Ain't no heaven-nor is there a hell. there is just here.
 






To quote John Maynard Keynes "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone."

Socialist!

I'm sure you'd open your house (apartment) and let the poor live with you. Why not just rent them a place with your money-give up 40% and live up to your words.
 






Socialist!

I'm sure you'd open your house (apartment) and let the poor live with you. Why not just rent them a place with your money-give up 40% and live up to your words.

I volunteer some of my time to assist public education in this country, and literacy, and building infrastructure in countrys vastly poorer than the US. I do not begrudge spending my tax dollars as an investment in the future. Better schools, broader participation in society and less me versus them is what I think will work. With your attitude, get prepared to multiply the amount of your tax dollars that will be spent on the criminal justice system. Warren Buffett, me, and your so-called poor in this country are in this together so we better start pulling together with a common goal. Remember that your worst nightmare will be to end up in a nursing home staffed by the same people that you are imagining here. Count on it.
 






Limbaugh is arrogant a lot. Hannity is a bigger hypocrite than Rush. Many years ago when complaining vehemently about Micheal Moore-who I cant stand-coming out to lecture at a local university for $60,000, Hannity goes on the air to say how awful that was. "I will come out there and debate Moore and I wont charge the university at all for speaking." The next week, the papers reported that although he wouldn't charge said university for speaking, he would charge them for security, air travel, hotel, meals, etc. Guess how much that bill came out to be? $60,000. University never invited him. I did notice your other words though-"crazy Merck". You have made my earlier point for me without even realizing it. If things were so good with how this company operates, you wouldn't be referring to it as crazy. I understand your desire to make as much money as you can, and I agree with you on that. But, I don't agree that cutting jobs at our level while the fat cats who bring no value to the company(revenue stream that is)whack peoples jobs. They do not work hard, despite what you have been lead to believe. I do agree with Walker. I do agree with Christie. I do agree with the double standard. I do agree that the unions are bad. But, Walker and Christie wouldn't agree with you and your greed. Also of note, your ability to "pick out a few points...ignore the absurdities." Interesting. Some would call that cherry picking for you to make your points, which never is a good footing to base your reasoning on.

Trying to max out one's pension is not greed unless you are doing it at the expense of others. It's okay if you continue to work hard and put in the hours despite the craziness at Merck or the insanity of a manager for a few extra years with the hope to increase the final amount of the pension. That is if it still exist in a few years. Our jobs as a rep are in no way protected like those union thugs camping out in Madison right now. I guess you can say everyone are hypocrites in a way. Jesse Jackson's appearance and marches with anyone have price tags. I doubt if he will ever jump on a plane and show up for free. All the former presidents are flying around giving speeches. The screaming union guys in Madison may be driving American-made cars but probably have Panasonic DVD players, Samsung LCD TVs at home. Everyone are selectively patriotic. :)
 






Ten years ago we knew exactly why a colleague left Merck, usually to retire. We used to have a retirement party or something. Then people began to leave for other companies. let go, etc. and we started to whisper and ask why since the manager would not even say it. Now we all secretly hope it is the other person losing his/her job. We went from a happy family to everyone looking out for our own self.

I remember several years ago when Marty Carrol left merck and the senior execs. sent out this long expository explanation as to why and how the sales force should feel about it. I happened to be with my manager that day and his comment was: "They can't tell us how to think." Thats the true arrogance of merck: telling you not only what to do and what to say but how to think and feel. Merck is truly the land of Oz. "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
 












So then, it's all about you. Wonder if you will feel any differently on your deathbed...something to contemplate.

nothing to contemplate.

I only bothers someone if you buy into the whole religion crap. Oh, my-I don't. So, I didn't tithe my 10% to the child molesters or to the king with no clothes.

Wake up. There is only today.
 






Trying to max out one's pension is not greed unless you are doing it at the expense of others. It's okay if you continue to work hard and put in the hours despite the craziness at Merck or the insanity of a manager for a few extra years with the hope to increase the final amount of the pension. That is if it still exist in a few years. Our jobs as a rep are in no way protected like those union thugs camping out in Madison right now. I guess you can say everyone are hypocrites in a way. Jesse Jackson's appearance and marches with anyone have price tags. I doubt if he will ever jump on a plane and show up for free. All the former presidents are flying around giving speeches. The screaming union guys in Madison may be driving American-made cars but probably have Panasonic DVD players, Samsung LCD TVs at home. Everyone are selectively patriotic. :)

"Trying to max out one's pension is not greed unless you are doing it at the expense of others."
You mean like our 5 executives who earned $36 million between them while laying off thousands of merck employees? Does that qualify as being ok. You deserve a good slap down punk