Merck will reap what it sows...Ever heard of Karmic retrobution?

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What continually baffles me about Merck regarding their adversarial treament
of their sales force, is what do they expect to get out it? Sure, by making the
majority of people miserable, they will thin the herds, and be able to hire more
of their wonderful InVentiv reps for lower salaries...But by continually lying and
cheating and demoralizing the reps out there, ultimately the company itself suffers...

Now granted, nothing bad ever seems to befall those in management at Merck, but
they have to know that morale here is beyond bad...This is a highly toxic and disfuntional
place to work...

Doesn't Merck know that by screwing reps so badly, the reps want to just screw them
back?? Why can't we all just get along?
 






Anonymous said:
What continually baffles me about Merck regarding their adversarial treament
of their sales force, is what do they expect to get out it? Sure, by making the
majority of people miserable, they will thin the herds, and be able to hire more
of their wonderful InVentiv reps for lower salaries...But by continually lying and
cheating and demoralizing the reps out there, ultimately the company itself suffers...

Now granted, nothing bad ever seems to befall those in management at Merck, but
they have to know that morale here is beyond bad...This is a highly toxic and disfuntional
place to work...

Doesn't Merck know that by screwing reps so badly, the reps want to just screw them
back?? Why can't we all just get along?
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I definitely agree. I am trying to get out as I do not enjoy this company any more. Granted things change but Merck has become toxic. The once mighty and well-respected Merck has become just another company with the patent cliff just up the road and everyone trying to slam on the brakes before they go over.
 






yeah merck doesn't really care. the legal suite is in charge. if you want to sue - stand in line. as a matter of fact litigation is what they do so... karma doesn't apply to lawyers. anyway turn off your brain, collect your paycheck and play the lottery.
 






Nobody has left on their own where in the area(big city) I work in 10 years. other than layoffs and some firings and retirings, seriously they are all here! I hear some threats because of the adversarial treatment of sales reps, but no one ever actually has the guts to leave!
 












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Nobody has left on their own where in the area(big city) I work in 10 years. other than layoffs and some firings and retirings, seriously they are all here! I hear some threats because of the adversarial treatment of sales reps, but no one ever actually has the guts to leave!
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10 years ago is not now.
 






Karmic retribution is reserved for entities with souls. Merck and most other companies can hardly be considered strong candidates for spiritualism. Make your decisions based on dollars and cents and the likelihood that your non-spiritual needs will be best met. As far as reaping what they sow, Merck is in the phase analogous to cashing your houses and hotels in Monopoly. If there is any company out there that creates any competitive advantage, they will be eating Merck's lunch in 10 years. Any reserve of loyaty will be long gone by then. Would you work for less cash and more options at today's Merck?
 






Anonymous said:
10 years ago is not now.
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Ten years ago we knew exactly why a colleague left Merck, usually to retire. We used to have a retirement party or something. Then people began to leave for other companies. let go, etc. and we started to whisper and ask why since the manager would not even say it. Now we all secretly hope it is the other person losing his/her job. We went from a happy family to everyone looking out for our own self.
 






Anonymous said:
What continually baffles me about Merck regarding their adversarial treament
of their sales force, is what do they expect to get out it? Sure, by making the
majority of people miserable, they will thin the herds, and be able to hire more
of their wonderful InVentiv reps for lower salaries...But by continually lying and
cheating and demoralizing the reps out there, ultimately the company itself suffers...

Now granted, nothing bad ever seems to befall those in management at Merck, but
they have to know that morale here is beyond bad...This is a highly toxic and disfuntional
place to work...

Doesn't Merck know that by screwing reps so badly, the reps want to just screw them
back?? Why can't we all just get along?
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Grow up. Merck isn't your parents. It is a job that's it.

Free market capitalism at work. If you don't like it leave.

What a bunch of whiners. You behave like a bunch of unionized teachers crying for more. Nothing is guaranteed.

Vote Republican to free up the CEO and corporation to grow by deregulation and getting the stupid FDA off our backs.
 












Anonymous said:
Grow up. Merck isn't your parents. It is a job that's it.

Free market capitalism at work. If you don't like it leave.

What a bunch of whiners. You behave like a bunch of unionized teachers crying for more. Nothing is guaranteed.

Vote Republican to free up the CEO and corporation to grow by deregulation and getting the stupid FDA off our backs.
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I am a Republican, but your straight arm Republican approach is a little too simplistic and naive. There are many who thought that building a career with such a respectable and great company would be worth a lot. Believe it or not, there was a day when all this job hopping didnt look good on a resume-and Im not sure it still does. But, even though we might have disagreed with our Democratic Merck employees, we all pulled for each other. Now all we get is pure greed from the top. While jobs are being eliminated at an astounding pace, our CEO's are walking away with somewhere in the area of $10-15 million dollar bonuses(every year) while our friends are losing their jobs. Other board of directors are also walking away with millions of dollars. Your atttitude of employees whining and sounding like a bunch of spoiled teachers and union workers doesnt quite fit. Some of us are just bothered by how far this once great company has fallen. And, just telling employees "if you dont like it leave" is a little simple. What happens when a bunch of good quality people leave for another company? Tell me how that makes Merck better.
 






Anonymous said:
I am a Republican, but your straight arm Republican approach is a little too simplistic and naive. There are many who thought that building a career with such a respectable and great company would be worth a lot. Believe it or not, there was a day when all this job hopping didnt look good on a resume-and Im not sure it still does. But, even though we might have disagreed with our Democratic Merck employees, we all pulled for each other. Now all we get is pure greed from the top. While jobs are being eliminated at an astounding pace, our CEO's are walking away with somewhere in the area of $10-15 million dollar bonuses(every year) while our friends are losing their jobs. Other board of directors are also walking away with millions of dollars. Your atttitude of employees whining and sounding like a bunch of spoiled teachers and union workers doesnt quite fit. Some of us are just bothered by how far this once great company has fallen. And, just telling employees "if you dont like it leave" is a little simple. What happens when a bunch of good quality people leave for another company? Tell me how that makes Merck better.
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Nope. Sorry. Free market=competition. If you are 'better' as you say you are-prove it. Out sell your competitor. Out perform your peers. In the end, you will have the job you want. So, you have to work longer hours-so does the CEO. They deserve the bonuses they get and high salary because they make the tough choices. Including those that result in letting go of the whiners.

How far? Just like the teachers. They took lower pay for better benefits. Now we can't afford it. Tough. Fire them if they don't like it. Same thing here.

To save costs for the company we need to trim costs. The single biggest cost to any company is the employee.

Trim the overpaid worker-that is free market capitalism.
 






It has nothing to do with Republicans vs. Democrats, free competition, or skill levels. Merck has indeed gone a little bit insane over the years. There is a lot more disconnect. Meetings are teleconferences are getting a little bit too much. May be you are right. The two-faced approach at Merck and all the double speaks are now the norms at any companies.
 






Anonymous said:
It has nothing to do with Republicans vs. Democrats, free competition, or skill levels. Merck has indeed gone a little bit insane over the years. There is a lot more disconnect. Meetings are teleconferences are getting a little bit too much. May be you are right. The two-faced approach at Merck and all the double speaks are now the norms at any companies.
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It isn't two faced. It is reality. No one is promised anything other then if you don't do your job, you will be dismissed.

Anything else is socialism. If you're looking for a guarantee of a job or salary increase-try a union job. But, good luck with that.

Free market capitalism is competition. Whoever out competes the other wins. That's it.

Besides, the company is in the business to return dividends to the shareholders, nothing more. They happen to do it by making and selling pharmaceuticals. They give the best dividends by keeping costs to a minimum. That includes the expensive costs associated with employees. Hence, cut and eliminate positions or benefits. Simple business model.

If you're worth your weight, as you think you are, then you'll be promoted to one of those executive positions and have the golden benefits. But, there again there isn't a guarantee.

Cut the employees and their benefits and watch the stock go up.
 






Anonymous said:
It has nothing to do with Republicans vs. Democrats, free competition, or skill levels. Merck has indeed gone a little bit insane over the years. There is a lot more disconnect. Meetings are teleconferences are getting a little bit too much. May be you are right. The two-faced approach at Merck and all the double speaks are now the norms at any companies.
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The teleconferences have become completely absurd...And the absurdity has become accepted as a normal way of conducting business...the same with the amount of useless/duplicate emails...The problem is, there is really no need for the district manager job anymore, but all the ridiculous, wasteful things that define their "job" have to remain to justify their existence...Thus, at best the status quo (which is really a mess) is the only thing that can stay...

No one in managment seems to really want to improve the company...they posture as if they do, but they keep in place a culture where anyone who speaks up with some concrete ideas to improve things is sort of made a leper...

This place has already sort of crash and burned...the only thing that saves them is that they have more money than G_D, and are a huge multi-national...the problem is all the money is getting siphoned off at the top!
 






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Nope. Sorry. Free market=competition. If you are 'better' as you say you are-prove it. Out sell your competitor. Out perform your peers. In the end, you will have the job you want. So, you have to work longer hours-so does the CEO. They deserve the bonuses they get and high salary because they make the tough choices. Including those that result in letting go of the whiners.

How far? Just like the teachers. They took lower pay for better benefits. Now we can't afford it. Tough. Fire them if they don't like it. Same thing here.

To save costs for the company we need to trim costs. The single biggest cost to any company is the employee.

Trim the overpaid worker-that is free market capitalism.
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What an idiot. Too much Limbaugh. How many examples do you need to see when people do perform and sell, but lose their jobs because of higher pay in exchange for contract reps. You are a rookie. The CEO works longer hours? What country do you live in. Obviously not America, because CEO's generally dont work that hard. Lets see how far the so called free market/capitalism thing works in the pharma industry in 4-5 years. You will be gone to-all to cut expenses, feed the greed of the CEO and board members. You dont get Econ 101. When you start trimming margins, the people at the top dont lose their percentages. They keep them, and the only way to do that it to cut jobs. Including some of the people making more money than you because they did better than you for a longer period of time. If you went to college, which Im sure you did, you must have missed that little point. Pay attention next time, and please dont think that Rush has all the answers. He certainly doesnt when it comes to marriage and addictions jerky. Include Viagra in that-remember the incident at the airport with him a few years back? How soon we forget.
 












Anonymous said:
Nope. Sorry. Free market=competition. If you are 'better' as you say you are-prove it. Out sell your competitor. Out perform your peers. In the end, you will have the job you want. So, you have to work longer hours-so does the CEO. They deserve the bonuses they get and high salary because they make the tough choices. Including those that result in letting go of the whiners.

How far? Just like the teachers. They took lower pay for better benefits. Now we can't afford it. Tough. Fire them if they don't like it. Same thing here.

To save costs for the company we need to trim costs. The single biggest cost to any company is the employee.

Trim the overpaid worker-that is free market capitalism.
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Who said anything about me being "better?" I never mentioned that. The point is you place too much trust in Limbaugh. The whole point is this jerky: When margins get thinner-which they have been over the past several years-the ones at the top still keep their same percentages. To do that, they have to cut jobs. How many jobs could $14 million keep employeed? When is having too much having too much? How much money does one need? Go ahead and give us a Limbaugh line now-"as much as they want to." Sounds good in theory. Keep talking big guy-you job will be gone in the next 5 years anyway-even with how great you think you are. How many examples would you have to see of people getting axed even though they continue to sell and be successful, only to be cut? If you think that all the people getting cut are getting cut because they are not selling anymore, than you live in some make believe world. Good luck in the pharma industry in 5 years lips
 






To Poster #16: Limbaugh is no different than Pelosi, Obama or any other public figures. They all have their own skeletons. As long as I have been with Merck, the HQ people see the sales reps as an inevitable evil. The marketing people always think they are smarter and the sales reps cannot execute anything properly. We also lost people like Jerry Keller that would act as our voice at the HQ to counter some of these elitist craps. My advice to friends who want to get another pharma job or to get into this business is a resounding "no". The pharma sales job as we knew it is long gone. Professionalism is gone. Now we are working as "Domestic Outsourced" reps and only one step away from going 100% contract sales. May be eventually the industry will go the Wal-Mart way. Outsource whatever are possible. Contract out the rest. Keep very little Merck-labeled sales reps for pride and dignity.
 






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Who said anything about me being "better?" I never mentioned that. The point is you place too much trust in Limbaugh. The whole point is this jerky: When margins get thinner-which they have been over the past several years-the ones at the top still keep their same percentages. To do that, they have to cut jobs. How many jobs could $14 million keep employeed? When is having too much having too much? How much money does one need? Go ahead and give us a Limbaugh line now-"as much as they want to." Sounds good in theory. Keep talking big guy-you job will be gone in the next 5 years anyway-even with how great you think you are. How many examples would you have to see of people getting axed even though they continue to sell and be successful, only to be cut? If you think that all the people getting cut are getting cut because they are not selling anymore, than you live in some make believe world. Good luck in the pharma industry in 5 years lips
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So what is the new career path?
Reps and DMs
 






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