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anonymous said:
This is EXACTLY what they will be doing. Don't be naive! Once acquired they are required to give you the warn period abs then it's bye bye birdie. I told you I have been through multiple buyouts and yes you're right they are not ask the same but they are very similar. This situation explained above is what happens every time....EVERY TIME. So please get your head out of the clouds.
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Listen, most field based employees have zero understanding on how internal processes work. Mike and John had a vision on where they wanted to take the OBU, that vision was impeded by Perry “the lisp” Sternberg and Phlem, and then Takeda. Both are good and capable. Please don’t listen to myopic entitled reps, they know nothing.
 






anonymous said:
Listen, most field based employees have zero understanding on how internal processes work. Mike and John had a vision on where they wanted to take the OBU, that vision was impeded by Perry “the lisp” Sternberg and Phlem, and then Takeda. Both are good and capable. Please don’t listen to myopic entitled reps, they know nothing.
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You can sense the frustration at times when they speak about their vision. Even when they were asked about their future with the company yesterday. They are as much in a holding pattern as we are. It is a lot easier to fit in reps than it is executives, managers, and directors. Just remember they are not the ones making the decisions but they may be the ones protecting some of Our asses when it comes
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anonymous said:
50% extra bonus is bad?
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Only if you hit goal! Less than 10% hit goal with Xiidra so don’t be fooled by the “retention bonus”. Also, I’m not sticking around until Christmas to see it! Perry did the 1.5x multiplier last year and very few made $ on it! Shire/Takeda is still setting goals so don’t expect to blow them out. I’m not fooled by this “carrot”!
 






anonymous said:
Only if you hit goal! Less than 10% hit goal with Xiidra so don’t be fooled by the “retention bonus”. Also, I’m not sticking around until Christmas to see it! Perry did the 1.5x multiplier last year and very few made $ on it! Shire/Takeda is still setting goals so don’t expect to blow them out. I’m not fooled by this “carrot”!
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Exactly! Fool’s gold!
 






anonymous said:
You can sense the frustration at times when they speak about their vision. Even when they were asked about their future with the company yesterday. They are as much in a holding pattern as we are. It is a lot easier to fit in reps than it is executives, managers, and directors. Just remember they are not the ones making the decisions but they may be the ones protecting some of Our asses when it comes
Down to Cuts.
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Absolutely. If people want to leave, leave. You want to stay, stay, but don’t bad mouth J & M. They walked I to a total $hit Storm and are doing their best. Why don’t reps try their best?
 






anonymous said:
Only if you hit goal! Less than 10% hit goal with Xiidra so don’t be fooled by the “retention bonus”. Also, I’m not sticking around until Christmas to see it! Perry did the 1.5x multiplier last year and very few made $ on it! Shire/Takeda is still setting goals so don’t expect to blow them out. I’m not fooled by this “carrot”!
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Dude, how many sales jobs are there that give you an extra 50% for doing your job. Better yet how many sales jobs let you keep your job when you consistently do not hit goals. You seriously need a commission only or hi stress B2B job. Then come back and complain to us.
 












anonymous said:
Because Takeda doesn't want to pay out the severance and they made it a contingency of getting the drug. Also, it allows Novartis to hand pick the few valuable people they want to keep around.

There's no way they're retaining 300 redundant reps for months and months, it's a waste of money. They'll be analyzing the business during the next 60-90 days so cuts can be made ASAP
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This is the most accurate statement I have read on CP ever. This is exactly what is going to happen and why they took 400 people as part of the deal. Takeda didn’t want to pay the severance and so as part of the deal Novartis gets to hand pick and pay out. It’s refreshing and relieving to know that some CP posters actually have a brain. If you plan to stick it out and go down with the ship I wish you luck in finding a new job with the salary we make. It was a fun and easy ride while it lasted.
 






This is why your a sales rep and will always be a sales rep. They need the share of voice right now. They cant just ad Xiidra to the existing bag, the other brands they have will suffer they are lower market volume brands but important to their franchise. They dont want to do that so they want us for now to maintain momentum. 2020 may change like any other companies sales force and alignment. You are so short sighted "they have reps so we are screwed" Most of you complainers are here because you couldn't get another job, you werent picked during the exodus to other one product start ups. I feel for you. Enjoy your pity party.


anonymous said:
This is the most accurate statement I have read on CP ever. This is exactly what is going to happen and why they took 400 people as part of the deal. Takeda didn’t want to pay the severance and so as part of the deal Novartis gets to hand pick and pay out. It’s refreshing and relieving to know that some CP posters actually have a brain. If you plan to stick it out and go down with the ship I wish you luck in finding a new job with the salary we make. It was a fun and easy ride while it lasted.
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anonymous said:
This is the most accurate statement I have read on CP ever. This is exactly what is going to happen and why they took 400 people as part of the deal. Takeda didn’t want to pay the severance and so as part of the deal Novartis gets to hand pick and pay out. It’s refreshing and relieving to know that some CP posters actually have a brain. If you plan to stick it out and go down with the ship I wish you luck in finding a new job with the salary we make. It was a fun and easy ride while it lasted.
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You really can’t be that stupid! So according to you Novartis pays a premium to buy X and 400 people to then cut most of the 400 and payout a severance on top of the already high premium they paid to get everything? Wow, no wonder you are a rep and will always be a rep.
 






anonymous said:
This is why your a sales rep and will always be a sales rep. They need the share of voice right now. They cant just ad Xiidra to the existing bag, the other brands they have will suffer they are lower market volume brands but important to their franchise. They dont want to do that so they want us for now to maintain momentum. 2020 may change like any other companies sales force and alignment. You are so short sighted "they have reps so we are screwed" Most of you complainers are here because you couldn't get another job, you werent picked during the exodus to other one product start ups. I feel for you. Enjoy your pity party.
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Once again idiot. Durezol goes generic this year that's one drug down and a good place to slide in xiidra as those reps would only have iilevro. Glaucoma reps call on both ODS and MDs they have 2 products. Their bags are not full
 






dumbass thank you for validating my thoughts. They don’t want Xiidra in the bag with 2 other drugs. That’s the point. They have the money and that’s what they want. The other brands will suffer and they have a deep pipeline as well. I just can’t fix stupid.
 






anonymous said:
You really can’t be that stupid! So according to you Novartis pays a premium to buy X and 400 people to then cut most of the 400 and payout a severance on top of the already high premium they paid to get everything? Wow, no wonder you are a rep and will always be a rep.
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Are you a complete idiot? How much did Takeda first come out and say they could get for Xiidra? It certainly wasn’t the low ball 3.4 billion Novartis is paying with potential incentives IF things go the way they want. Give me a break. Premium. My ass. Hahahahahahahahaha.
 






anonymous said:
dumbass thank you for validating my thoughts. They don’t want Xiidra in the bag with 2 other drugs. That’s the point. They have the money and that’s what they want. The other brands will suffer and they have a deep pipeline as well. I just can’t fix stupid.
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NO THEY WON'T SUFFER! THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TWO SALESFORCES WITH ONE PRODUCT IN THEIR BAG! (Xiidra) and. (Ilevro since Durezol is generic this year).
Two products especially when they are similar (two glaucoma meds, and two post op meds) are NOT HARD TO SELL adding a third is a PIECE OF CAKE! Some of us who came from BL had multiple....MULTIPLE products in our bag. We did just fine. You are a moron and just trying to justify keeping your job. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN KEEP DREAMING! Most of us are toast, deal with it, accept it, and move on! I'm not sticking around for some shitty retention bonus when goals are crazy.
 






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I guess tell that the novartis people who agreed and wanted the deal to take the sales force. It’s here choice to keep their share of voice. When ALLERGAN had Restasis they had 2 reps with it as the line product. Why? Because it was a billion dollar potential product But you know everything from your sales territory experience. Shoot you should be CEO somewhere because if you were running things it would be perfect. I should follow you because I like to follow people who have disbelief in a signed agreed to deal which was sighted again in a press release and again sent to us in email tonight. But you know better Mr Conspiracy Theory call the novartis people and tell them what a bad decision they are making.
 


















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