Let's List All The Things We Do Not Get With Contract

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A decent, fair, and livable salary. ( I am being paid $53 K less then I was paid at SA)

Pension does not exist

401K really doesn't count as no one will be around long enough to see anything. It is a scam

A piece of shit Malibu. I need a SUV I live in Michigan and this car is trash

And we cannot put a price or value on this one: We are all demotivated, unhappy and
like shit for taking these jobs. Why cant we just get paid a fair salary?
 






Yes the pay is a disgrace but just use it and milk it while you look for something better. I am looking full time, everyday and this paycheck basically just covers my job search. I would never consider this a career.
 






No profit sharing.
It is very clear with these jobs we are just temp. workers with no ties to the company and they have no ties to us. It bothers me because it is hard to accept at 41 I am a temp. worker. I know I am better than this yet I could not get anything else to stick.
 






No profit sharing.
It is very clear with these jobs we are just temp. workers with no ties to the company and they have no ties to us. It bothers me because it is hard to accept at 41 I am a temp. worker. I know I am better than this yet I could not get anything else to stick.

Than why did you take the job? Everything you and the initial poster mention you knew when you took the job. It's the structure of the business and you can't compare it to big pharma, the pockets are not as deep. You come off as entitled and bitter that you were let go by your former company, so were many people. It's like your wife left you and your so bitter that you abuse your next GF for what your wife did. It makes no sense. Inventiv did nothing intentional you knew what you signed on for.
 






Amen. Furthermore, continued high-paying jobs with big pharma are or soon will be a thing of the past. The industry is undergoing a revolutionary change and contract reps will most definitely be the norm-not the exception so deal with it. If you don't think your salary is fair or what you are used to, go back to school, pursue another career but at least have the character to quityerbellyachin!
 






Amen. Furthermore, continued high-paying jobs with big pharma are or soon will be a thing of the past. The industry is undergoing a revolutionary change and contract reps will most definitely be the norm-not the exception so deal with it. If you don't think your salary is fair or what you are used to, go back to school, pursue another career but at least have the character to quityerbellyachin!

Then why no new contracts?
 






Because revolutions take time. Big pharma is laying off-regrouping and slowly hiring contract reps. Trust me, i have been in the industry for 30 years and see the handwriting on the wall. It makes no sense at all for pharma to pay high salaries to reps that are doing the exact same thing as contract reps for twice or even three times the money. It is a business model whose end has come. Cost containment, generic encroachment, limited access etc. mandate this course of action. For those who bash the inadequacy of contract reps, I suspect that this reality will be a bitter pill-
 






A decent, fair, and livable salary. ( I am being paid $53 K less then I was paid at SA)

Pension does not exist

401K really doesn't count as no one will be around long enough to see anything. It is a scam

A piece of shit Malibu. I need a SUV I live in Michigan and this car is trash

And we cannot put a price or value on this one: We are all demotivated, unhappy and
like shit for taking these jobs. Why cant we just get paid a fair salary?

We get to deal with douche bags like you who think they are some sort of 'upper class' citizen
 






We get to deal with douche bags like you who think they are some sort of 'upper class' citizen

Or better yet have a silver spoon up their ass because they worked and hid in a pod team and got paid to do nothing. I can see why your bitter but you were not forced to take the job with Inventiv, it was your choice. You act as thoght the company intentionally stuck it to you. It's a business model not a personal attack.
 






Well, I DO get a cute little Chevy Malibu to drive around and drop samples. That is the main purpose of the low paying job. To protect the samples and obtain a signature for the manufacturer's valuable resource. Non-compliance with samples is a federal offense and I take my sample managing job very seriously. Now if these clowns would like me to use my 14 years of experience and relationships than they need to come up with better benefits and give me a litte respect. It's a two way street baby.
 






Well, I DO get a cute little Chevy Malibu to drive around and drop samples. That is the main purpose of the low paying job. To protect the samples and obtain a signature for the manufacturer's valuable resource. Non-compliance with samples is a federal offense and I take my sample managing job very seriously. Now if these clowns would like me to use my 14 years of experience and relationships than they need to come up with better benefits and give me a litte respect. It's a two way street baby.

Again, you are not answering the question. Why did you take the job if you knew getting into it what the pay and benefits were etc. Respect is relative and they are not disrespecting you, it's the business model. You are nothing more then a cheap piece of shit with an I am better then everyone attitude. Accept that the days of having your cake and eating it to are gone.
 






Again, you are not answering the question. Why did you take the job if you knew getting into it what the pay and benefits were etc. Respect is relative and they are not disrespecting you, it's the business model. You are nothing more then a cheap piece of shit with an I am better then everyone attitude. Accept that the days of having your cake and eating it to are gone.

Most of us took these shitty jobs to fund our real job searches.
 






Lot of cry babies on here.."I took this shitty job"? Crummy Car?? When did inVentiv promise you $100K and the BMW? You took the job (still with a plan to leave asap- fair enough)...shut up and do this simple job and quit whining....95% of us laid off Big Pharma reps will not be getting back to "Big Time Pharma"..where else can you work and have plenty of time to network and job search?? If you are such hot stuff "sales" person quit and take that 100% commission job and enjoy your new found success..but quit making yourself and the rest of us miserable.
 






Lot of cry babies on here.."I took this shitty job"? Crummy Car?? When did inVentiv promise you $100K and the BMW? You took the job (still with a plan to leave asap- fair enough)...shut up and do this simple job and quit whining....95% of us laid off Big Pharma reps will not be getting back to "Big Time Pharma"..where else can you work and have plenty of time to network and job search?? If you are such hot stuff "sales" person quit and take that 100% commission job and enjoy your new found success..but quit making yourself and the rest of us miserable.



Well said!!!! Thank You!!
 






























Do you have any friends with high powered careers? Pharma sales does not count. If you are truly honest with yourself and what you did in the past as a pharma sales person, you cannot state that the compensation you received was commensurate with the work that you did. There are people with far greater skills than a pharma rep who work significantly harder for similar pay. The poster in this conversation is correct stating that the old model is gone. So you know, some of the companies have plans to continue to reduce the size of their salesforces with the idea that they will hire back at a base pay in the $40's. Don't take my comments personally, I used to be in the industry too and I am not happy where it took me either but it is the new reality. Many of these companies are pure hell holes to be at anyway so in some respects, you are fortunate to have been shown the door. Now, you are forced to make a change and while it might be painful in the short term, managed properly, long term your life will be better.