Lance "I'm no doper" Armstrong

[Anonymous]

Have you read some of the stuff coming out of Pravda lately? One had an interview with Putin, telling Americans NOT to go down the road of Socialism. "You see how that turned out for us." Also, Pravda just published an editorial, stating that Americans need to hold onto their guns with both hands, and that once they allowed Stalin to do that, mass murder followed. Pravda is actually more right than our media now.

You're absolutely correct, Libluvs. I actually follow RT (Russian Television) News that is based in DC. I get more facts and truth from RT than I do from the LA Times, the NY Times, the Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune, USA Today, MSNBC, CNN or even FOX News.

How ironic is that?

I'm telling you....we are a dying nation. We've lost our way. It's a very dangerous time for all young people in America. Many of us have lived most of our lives. But the kids are really screwed unless somebody stands up for them!

 

[Anonymous]

Check out post #10. It hasn't been deleted, and it was also quoted in another post.

Good grief, is that all you have to worry about? Sad

Why would you copy a post to another thread? Very strange.

But whenever I see integrity on these boards it warms my heart. It's like giving a glass of cold water to a man dying of thirst. For that I thank you.

I wish more would follow in your footsteps and be a little more self-disclosing.

In that way, you should be a role model here.

In other ways, I'm not so sure.

 

[Anonymous]

It's not about cycling, BamaBoy. As usual you're a day late and a dollar short.

It's about a nation that has lost it's moral code.

You should be very concerned about this shit with a young boy who's going to live in America (or whatever they call it later) for a long, long time.

Are you really that detached?

Wow.

I think the name of the book is "it's not about the bike"

 

[Anonymous]

You dumb ass. Claiming that it's 'unfair' to find your drug store's shelves empty of analgesic creme to apply to your butt and equating that 'unfairness' to 'equality under the law', a constitutional guarantee, is about as fucking stupid as it gets.

It's fucks like you and your stupidity that is destroying the country from within.

With the Internet there really is no reason for to to be so ignorant

 

[Drug Dumper]

Why would you copy a post to another thread? Very strange.

But whenever I see integrity on these boards it warms my heart. It's like giving a glass of cold water to a man dying of thirst. For that I thank you.

I wish more would follow in your footsteps and be a little more self-disclosing.

In that way, you should be a role model here.

In other ways, I'm not so sure.

I didn't copy a post to another thread. What the hell are you talking about?

 

[tinkrbelle]

You're absolutely correct, Libluvs. I actually follow RT (Russian Television) News that is based in DC. I get more facts and truth from RT than I do from the LA Times, the NY Times, the Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune, USA Today, MSNBC, CNN or even FOX News.

How ironic is that?

I'm telling you....we are a dying nation. We've lost our way. It's a very dangerous time for all young people in America. Many of us have lived most of our lives. But the kids are really screwed unless somebody stands up for them!

good god, both of you should move to russia and see how wonderful it there. America is not moving to communism, nor socialism. And PRAVDA is a joke. They are the russian govts left arm.

 

[tinkrbelle]

Only in America would a sports star get prime time Oprah coverage to admit that he's a muh fuh liar. Most countries would scorn him and ostracize him. He took $40M from the US Post Office, perjured himself that got other people in legal trouble, called his detractors who offered evidence that he was a doper 'liars' and some other pretty nasty names, knowingly accepted 7 tour de France biking titles while he was doped up for all 7 and made a ton of money off the lies. God almighty. Quite a liar he was. I saw him on TV defiantly attacking those who pointed the big finger at him. heh. The best liar wins in America. And it worked for a long, long time. But his number finally came up.

What worries me is that some guys in the gym tonight were actually defending him. Saying crap like "All the rest of them are doing it too" or "But look at all the noteriety his fame brought to America". Our nation has lost her moral compass, my friends. It's a free for all. All for one and one for all. When a nation's moral code starts to fail world history tells us over and over again that it assumes a very dangerous and precarious position.

Good luck to all of you and your families. Especially to all the youth. They will need the most luck of all.

Why do you think the USSR and E.Germany dominated the world in sprts from the 60's thruh the 90's?? Yes, Doping! Most countries do it but it i not big deal there.

 

[Anonymous]

Why do you think the USSR and E.Germany dominated the world in sprts from the 60's thruh the 90's?? Yes, Doping! Most countries do it but it i not big deal there.

What are you talking about, Tink?

All athletes who participate in the Olympics have to take the same doping tests. E. Germany and Russia never got a pass.

Same in the Tour de France. All bicylcists from ALL nations took the same doping tests.

Sorry. You make no sense here.

 

[tinkrbelle]

What are you talking about, Tink?

All athletes who participate in the Olympics have to take the same doping tests. E. Germany and Russia never got a pass.

Same in the Tour de France. All bicylcists from ALL nations took the same doping tests.

Sorry. You make no sense here.

It was well known the e.germans doped up until the 90's. Even Lance talks about it. That was the controversy of why they were so good.

http://www.dw.de/east-germanys-doping-program-casts-long-shadow-over-victims/a-5968383

 

[Anonymous]

It was well known the e.germans doped up until the 90's. Even Lance talks about it. That was the controversy of why they were so good.

http://www.dw.de/east-germanys-doping-program-casts-long-shadow-over-victims/a-5968383

Oh, Lance talks about it??? HAH!

Fuck, that's believable, isn't it!!! HAH!

So how did they beat the doping tests, Tink? Were they smarter than the scientists who concocted the tests? And if they were - does that mean the United States was on the bottom of the learning curve and unable to beat those same tests? Explain that to me, Tink.

Or was it that the United State was much more ethical and moral that the USSR and E. Germany.

Then how is it we dropped bombs on japanese cities in WW2 when it was completely unnecessary to do so, or incarcerated innocent american-japanese CITIZENS during the war in the South Pacific, or invaded Iraq under false pretenses and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and destroyed the properties of a million more who were forced to dislocate to neighboring countries.

I'm surprised that you actually buy all this horseshit, Tink. I thought you actually had a discerning mind.

 

[Anonymous]

Oh, Lance talks about it??? HAH!

Fuck, that's believable, isn't it!!! HAH!

So how did they beat the doping tests, Tink? Were they smarter than the scientists who concocted the tests? And if they were - does that mean the United States was on the bottom of the learning curve and unable to beat those same tests? Explain that to me, Tink.

Or was it that the United State was much more ethical and moral that the USSR and E. Germany.

Then how is it we dropped bombs on japanese cities in WW2 when it was completely unnecessary to do so, or incarcerated innocent american-japanese CITIZENS during the war in the South Pacific, or invaded Iraq under false pretenses and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and destroyed the properties of a million more who were forced to dislocate to neighboring countries.

I'm surprised that you actually buy all this horseshit, Tink. I thought you actually had a discerning mind.

It seems as though you are the only smart one on here and everyone else is an idiot.

(There is treatment available for this)

 

[Drug Dumper]

Then how is it we dropped bombs on japanese cities in WW2 when it was completely unnecessary to do so,

That HAD to be done.

 

[tinkrbelle]

Oh, Lance talks about it??? HAH!

Fuck, that's believable, isn't it!!! HAH!

So how did they beat the doping tests, Tink? Were they smarter than the scientists who concocted the tests? And if they were - does that mean the United States was on the bottom of the learning curve and unable to beat those same tests? Explain that to me, Tink.

Or was it that the United State was much more ethical and moral that the USSR and E. Germany.

Then how is it we dropped bombs on japanese cities in WW2 when it was completely unnecessary to do so, or incarcerated innocent american-japanese CITIZENS during the war in the South Pacific, or invaded Iraq under false pretenses and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and destroyed the properties of a million more who were forced to dislocate to neighboring countries.

I'm surprised that you actually buy all this horseshit, Tink. I thought you actually had a discerning mind.

Wow, --well, i can see you didnt even bother reading the article, becuase if you did, the answers are all in there for you. Me thinks you are delusional.

 

[Anonymous]

That HAD to be done.

You're delusional.

We had the entire country of Japan surrounded with allied warships. No way in. No way out without meeting up with one. All supplies had been virtually cut off. They had already raised the white flag. That's when we dropped the hydrogen bombs on both Hiroshima and Nagasaki and took out hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

Whatever historical crap you've read about this was prepared & written by the victors.

The dumbing down of America is very frightening indeed.

 

[Drug Dumper]

Let me guess.... you are not American.

 

[Anonymous]

Wow, --well, i can see you didnt even bother reading the article, becuase if you did, the answers are all in there for you. Me thinks you are delusional.

There were American athletes who were disqualified during the olympics of the 60's and 70's and 80's for anabolic steroid use. EVERYONE was tested. East Germans were not exempt. I see the lawsuits are flying over in Germany about this - and wherever lawyers are involved bogus shit gets dug up.

Besides, what's you point here, Tink? That East Germans were doped up so that excuses Lance "I'm no doper" Armstrong??? FUCK LANCE! His lies ruined careers and even robbed people of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS based upon his PERJURED legal testimonies during court cases - claiming that Lance was telling the truth (when, in fact, he was LYING) and that other truth tellers defamed him!!! HAH! LOL! IMO Lance Armstrong is a total ASSHOLE and does not deserve any favorable media attention. IMO the justice system should take EVERY LAST PENNY that he made off his lies and BAN HIM FOREVER from participating in any athletic event where he could gain monetarily!

Oh, if you didn't know, the lies that Lance told generated about $40M in supporting funds from the US Postal Service. Why isn't Congress forcing him BY SUBPOENA to appear before their members and explain the DETAILS of this like Congress brought Roger Clemons to DC and RAKED HIM OVER THE COALS, re: steroids in baseball, and later CHARGED CLEMONS with perjury and obstruction of justice - WHICH CLEMONS BEAT AND WAS ACQUITTED OF IN FEDERAL COURT??? HMMM, TINKER??? HMMM???

You appear to be defending Lance "I'm no doper" Armstrong. Why would you do that with all the evidence we have about his use of dope AND his WILLFUL lies that hurt others and generated lots of free money from our taxpayers that he should have NEVER received??? HMMM, TINKER??

Let's start there.

 

[Anonymous]

Let me guess.... you are not American.

I am a true blue American. I am a patriot. And I love my country. Part of loving my country is pointing out all the warts and pussballs. I believe, AS GUARANTEED BY OUR US CONSTITUTION, in 'EQUALITY UNDER THE LAW'.

Those who OBJECT to 'equality under the law' and the US Constitution are the real enemies of our nation.

Hell, I served my nation HONORABLY. I didn't risk my life for America to have her dragged through the mud by a bunch of liars, thieves and political whores!!!

You are proof to me how America has been grossly dumbed down over the years.

 

[tinkrbelle]

There were American athletes who were disqualified during the olympics of the 60's and 70's and 80's for anabolic steroid use. EVERYONE was tested. East Germans were not exempt. I see the lawsuits are flying over in Germany about this - and wherever lawyers are involved bogus shit gets dug up.

Besides, what's you point here, Tink? That East Germans were doped up so that excuses Lance "I'm no doper" Armstrong??? FUCK LANCE! His lies ruined careers and even robbed people of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS based upon his PERJURED legal testimonies during court cases - claiming that Lance was telling the truth (when, in fact, he was LYING) and that other truth tellers defamed him!!! HAH! LOL! IMO Lance Armstrong is a total ASSHOLE and does not deserve any favorable media attention. IMO the justice system should take EVERY LAST PENNY that he made off his lies and BAN HIM FOREVER from participating in any athletic event where he could gain monetarily!

Oh, if you didn't know, the lies that Lance told generated about $40M in supporting funds from the US Postal Service. Why isn't Congress forcing him BY SUBPOENA to appear before their members and explain the DETAILS of this like Congress brought Roger Clemons to DC and RAKED HIM OVER THE COALS, re: steroids in baseball, and later CHARGED CLEMONS with perjury and obstruction of justice - WHICH CLEMONS BEAT AND WAS ACQUITTED OF IN FEDERAL COURT??? HMMM, TINKER??? HMMM???

You appear to be defending Lance "I'm no doper" Armstrong. Why would you do that with all the evidence we have about his use of dope AND his WILLFUL lies that hurt others and generated lots of free money from our taxpayers that he should have NEVER received??? HMMM, TINKER??

Let's start there.

And what point are you trying to make??? I made the point that the former USSR and e. german athletes were doping in the 60's'-90's,--"Why do you think the USSR and E.Germany dominated the world in sprts from the 60's thruh the 90's?? Yes, Doping! Most countries do it but it i not big deal there". to answer to your comment:
"Only in America would a sports star get prime time Oprah coverage to admit that he's a muh fuh liar. Most countries would scorn him and ostracize him. "
The point I was making was that most countries could really give a shit that one of the American athletes was caught doping, when most of the world has been doping for decades. You made the point that the most countries would scourn him--- well I beg to differ, since most countries dope . And since you didnt even bother to read the article where it is clearly admitted by former e. german athletes that there was doping going on-- your argument does not hold water. What do you thing the dope testing technology was like in the 60's and 70's?? probably similar to the DNA tests at the time. If you want to start an argument, then have some facts and intelligence in your rebuttals.
And if your point is that all of these 100s of 1000s of former Soviet and Soviet sattelites athletes are lying, you are delusional. why would they lie??

Also, I, being of eastern european decent, have first hand knowledge of the doping going on there.

And, while you keep stating that Americans are dumb, you are one example of a real dumb Amercian. Read some history of the Eastern Block, And Warsaw PAct countries.

 

[tinkrbelle]

And what point are you trying to make??? I made the point that the former USSR and e. german athletes were doping in the 60's'-90's,--"Why do you think the USSR and E.Germany dominated the world in sprts from the 60's thruh the 90's?? Yes, Doping! Most countries do it but it i not big deal there". to answer to your comment:
"Only in America would a sports star get prime time Oprah coverage to admit that he's a muh fuh liar. Most countries would scorn him and ostracize him. "
The point I was making was that most countries could really give a shit that one of the American athletes was caught doping, when most of the world has been doping for decades. You made the point that the most countries would scourn him--- well I beg to differ, since most countries dope . And since you didnt even bother to read the article where it is clearly admitted by former e. german athletes that there was doping going on-- your argument does not hold water. What do you thing the dope testing technology was like in the 60's and 70's?? probably similar to the DNA tests at the time. If you want to start an argument, then have some facts and intelligence in your rebuttals.
And if your point is that all of these 100s of 1000s of former Soviet and Soviet sattelites athletes are lying, you are delusional. why would they lie??

Also, I, being of eastern european decent, have first hand knowledge of the doping going on there.

And, while you keep stating that Americans are dumb, you are one example of a real dumb Amercian. Read some history of the Eastern Block, And Warsaw PAct countries.

Also, I am not excusing Lance, nor any other doping athlete anywhere-- I am simply stating the facts that Americans are not the only ones doping.

 

[Drug Dumper]

Only in America would a sports star get prime time Oprah coverage

Hint: Oprah isn't prime time anymore. Finally. The only reason she even got this on ABC was because her buddy Gayle King is now one of the morning people -- and the reason SHE got THAT job was because of Oprah and possible stories in the future exclusive to ABC.