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-You men we weren't in the worst economy since the Great Depression, when bush left office?
-You mean bush didn't use "weapons of mass destruction" as an excuse to invade, and occupy Iraq?
-You mean there really WERE WMD found in Iraq?
-You mean the bush ta cuts did NOT add 3 billion to the budget?
- You mean the bush med-d plan was funded?
- You mean bush did not start two unfunded wars, the first unfunded wars in US history?
- You mean that those two unfunded wars have not added more than 3 trillion. YTD, to the deficit?
-You mean 9/11 didnt happen in 2001, when bush was in office for eight months (oh, forgot it was clintons fault)?

OOps, my bad, I got it all wrong!

Now to the election, exactly what republican is going to beat obama? The tea party wackos ensure that your candidates run to the extreme right. So, a right wing coocoo might win the republican nomination, but no way will a tea party type ever when over independents,
therefore they can not win the election. Ok, so Rick Perry is going to beat Obama? Michelle Bachmann? Mitt Romney, miaybe but he wont win the nomination (nut enough foam emanating from his mouth). Unless the republicans put the tea party nuts in place, they dont stand a chance to win the presidency.
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I mean saying it's Bush's fault is not a reelection strategy.
Saying it Bush's fault doesn't work 3 years in.
Bush inherited a recession, a tech bust, 9/11, Katrina, and engaged in 2 wars. Blah, blah, blah...

Defend Obama and his record without mentioning Bush, Tea Party, Republican or any of his political opposition. Just try it!
 




Anonymous said:
During the primary season, the extreme views will make many of the afore mentioned candidates un-vote worthy that's true. But it's another thing when you go the general election and vote. I don't think independents will vote in high numbers for Obama. That leaves either low voter turnout or the convservatiive candidate.

Obama isn't the mess many people desribe. He hasn't ruined this country, and he's done some good things (bin laden, gadafi). Conservatives blow things out of proportion just like the Dems. Fact is, Congress has low approval ratings, President has low approval ratings, and this country is in worse shape because of the consistent poor leadership exhibited by both parties.
If the country was like Pfizer, we would offer Obama $65mm to leave and each member of congress $25mm to retire. Since it's not I guess we'll have to count on you idiots to vote out our nations leaders.
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The bottom line is the independents will vote, and they WILL NOT vote en mass for a right wing nut (ie, Perry, Bachmann). They will not vote for people who are so goofy that they doubt evolution. Just finished reading Perrys book, and he is completely off his Rocker. As most election go, 2012 will be close. Here are the latest approval ratings:

- Obama - 44%
- Democrats - 47%
- Republicans - 33%
- Tea Party - 31%
- Congress - 13%

As you can readily see, Obama's approval is low, but the republicans, and tea party are much lower; Americans simply do not like the TEA party. So as the Republican candidates clamor to see who could out TEA Party the other, they will be force to express views that are further and further way from the mainstream. For example, during the last debate, every single candidate said that they would not support any tax increase, even if it represented only 10% of the total deficit reduction contribution. This is great for the small minority TEA party, but 70%+ of americans polled want a balanced approach. The republican candidate will try to run away from the TEA party, come next November, but it wont happen.

As an Obama Supporter, I am praying for a Rick Perry, or Michelle Bachmann (not likely) nomination, since they will easily be defeated. The more rabid and extreme the republican, the easier the victory for Obama.

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Anonymous said:
Doesn't matter. We have seen Obama is a poor CEO bordering on incompetent or just disconnected. His socialist ways are far far left of the American center. He has put as much debt on the books in 2 years as Bush did in 8. He, when Bush was president, said putting so much debt on the credit card was incompetent. This country probably will never repay their debt. If Obamacare gets traction along with Soc security, medicare/caid, we are broke. Whe n we default, all the savings of everybody is reset to $0. Spreading the wealth.
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Much of the debt accumulated under obama, can not be attributed directly to him:

- 4 Trillion can be attributed to two unfunded wars that bush started, and did not pay for.
- 1 Trillion+ due to loss revenue due to economy that he took over
- 1 Trillion + due to lost revenue from bush tax cuts

The rest of you post is nothing but the same old TEA party rant, with no specifics at all, ie, "socialist", "obamacare", etc. You dont even make sense, obamacare is not a government paid health benefit. It really is just a series of changes to how healthcare reforms, mainly in private insurance. So, "obamacare" has little to do with the federal budget. Your "spreading the wealth" comment also is very strange, as obama has proposed no policy with the intent of "spreading the wealth".

Instead of ranting, you need to be less emotional and more factual.
 




Anonymous said:
Yes. But it appears that he also has the thievery characteristics of a Republican. That is how he is able to sleep like a baby after ruining lives and companies for a living. That is also how he feels entitled to approve helicopter flights for his flunkees.
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Please be specific and tell us exactly what companies the obama ruined, as the President of the United States, and exactly what he did to ruin them. Sorry, I appreciate the rant, but you have no facts to back it up.
 




Doesn't matter. We have seen Obama is a poor CEO bordering on incompetent or just disconnected. His socialist ways are far far left of the American center. He has put as much debt on the books in 2 years as Bush did in 8. He, when Bush was president, said putting so much debt on the credit card was incompetent. This country probably will never repay their debt. If Obamacare gets traction along with Soc security, medicare/caid, we are broke. Whe n we default, all the savings of everybody is reset to $0. Spreading the wealth. The truth is the truth.
 












#22- a balanced approach would be everybody paying taxes and no one being excluded. There are so many people not paying taxes( the bottom half of taxpayers) that of course they don't mind taxes going up and even think it's being fair. Flat tax would let everybody feel the pain
 




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#22- a balanced approach would be everybody paying taxes and no one being excluded. There are so many people not paying taxes( the bottom half of taxpayers) that of course they don't mind taxes going up and even think it's being fair. Flat tax would let everybody feel the pain
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Balanced approach as polled is cuts plus revenue, with most increased revenue coming from the top 2%, which you are not even close to. First off lets be real, and focus on the possible; we both know that there will be no flat tax. Also, 50% of those that pay no taxes, are federal taxes are elderly people on social security; most of the rest are extremely poor people that live below the poverty line; obviously these people have no means to pay more taxes when they can barely put food in their mouths, or pay their rent, how much more pain do you want them to feel?. The rest are middle class people like you or I who get deductions, and thus a ZERO tax bill. In fact, there were 1470 millionaires and billionaires who paid ZERO federal taxes for 2010. Also, 35% of all corporations paid ZERO taxes. The taxes on the rich have never been lower in our history, and they control more of the wealth than they ever have.

You claim to speak for the american people but I have not seen a single poll that backs you up. Please provide the link to the poll that shows that most american people want the poorest americans to have their taxes increased, I have searched high and low and could not find. Now if you want all deductions like home, interest, contributions, to be eliminated so that you and I dont get to write off huge chunks of our income, that will enusre that some of that 50% pays taxes.

Look, we really don't need to argue, There will be a balanced approach one way or the other. The bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% will definitely end in 2013;


BTW, Im cool with a flat tax, as long as there are brackets, and the higher brackets pay a higher percent of their income, and the lowest bracket pays ZERO. Flat tax means NO DEUCTIONS for ANYTHING. So if you are in the top 2% bracket, you pay 30% period. If you are in the middle, perhaps you happy 10-15% period. Again, 4-5 brackets and no deductions at all.

As far as the poor, I am a christian, and Jesus urges us to have compassion for the poor. He says that "As you do unto the least of these, you do unto me". So, as a christian, my demanding that the poorest of our people pay more taxes rather than pay for food is not very compassionate or moral.
 




Democrats will lose big.

Obama vacations and play golf and chows down on lobsters, shrimp and pastries and other fatty treats while America burns. And everyone knows we are burning. He's taking the same approach to jobs that he took with the gulf oil spill - wait and see how it turns out, bilk money out of some people and take another vacation, play a round of golf.

He is the most incompetent president in US history.

And everyone knows it. He defeated a more incompetent republican senator. It won't happen this time. He is a left wing socialist nut job who believes cow farts are destroying the planet. What an idiot. Only Allah can help him win in 2012.
 




Anonymous said:
Democrats will lose big.

Obama vacations and play golf and chows down on lobsters, shrimp and pastries and other fatty treats while America burns. And everyone knows we are burning. He's taking the same approach to jobs that he took with the gulf oil spill - wait and see how it turns out, bilk money out of some people and take another vacation, play a round of golf.

He is the most incompetent president in US history.

And everyone knows it. He defeated a more incompetent republican senator. It won't happen this time. He is a left wing socialist nut job who believes cow farts are destroying the planet. What an idiot. Only Allah can help him win in 2012.
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So funny you forget your recent history. You bash Obama on things that Bush himself did.

1) Bush taking whole month of Aug '01 off - would more attention had been paid to the intel about terrorists learning to fly planes had he been in DC?

2) Bush did a great job with Katrina right? Only instead of the gulf under oil, in New Orleans people were dying.

3) Allah is just as valid a god as yours. Sorry, buts it's all bullshit.

4) Let us not forget Iraq - great job! A needless war and a waste of taxpayer money.

Who is your "competent" republican for 2012?
 




I just saw a report that Rick Perry is leading the GOP field. If he get's the nomination expect 4 more years of Obama. Perry is a lunatic. How did Texas ever elect him? Scary.
 




Anonymous said:
Democrats will lose big.

Obama vacations and play golf and chows down on lobsters, shrimp and pastries and other fatty treats while America burns. And everyone knows we are burning. He's taking the same approach to jobs that he took with the gulf oil spill - wait and see how it turns out, bilk money out of some people and take another vacation, play a round of golf.

He is the most incompetent president in US history.

And everyone knows it. He defeated a more incompetent republican senator. It won't happen this time. He is a left wing socialist nut job who believes cow farts are destroying the planet. What an idiot. Only Allah can help him win in 2012.
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Wow, he took a ten day vacation? well congress took a 5 week vacation! How is "Rome burning"? Based on your frothing from the mouth diatribe, you must be a TEA Party type. Well sir. the party is over, Obama will not fight to compromise anymore. From this point forward, when the TEA Party sys "My way or the highway", well we will take the "highway", and the TEA party will be held accountable. Obama, will also present a significant and specific jobs plan, which the republicans have not even attempted. We know the the TEA party will block it all, so at that point they will be held accountable. Being that the TEA party and the replublicans have approval ratings of 30%/and 33% respectively, I doubt that you are correct about the next election.

Finally, virtually every climate scientist in the world believes that global warming is contributed to by man. 100% of scientists believe that man has evolved; I am a christian and I too believe in the scientific facts. So, one of your candidates, probably rick perry who :
- Wants to abolish Social Security (read the book)
- Abolish Medicare (read the book)
- Does not believe in evolution
- wants to interfere in a womans reproductive decisions
- wants to repeal the 16th and 17th amendments to the constitution
- Wants to abolish stem cell research
- Speaks of seceding from the union
- Thinks that the 95% of scientist that believe in Mans contribution to global warming are wrong, but HE is right

OK, so let me get this straight, obama is a radical left wing nut, but the TEA inspired front runners are perfectly sane? Riiiiight!

By the way, there is not a single mainstream commentator that would call obama "radical" or "left wing". Look, compared to what the TEA likes, most most mainstream republicans are "left wing" radicals. Finally, as a supporter of obama, I pray nightly for perry or bachmann to win the nomination. A Perry/bachmann ticket would in fact be perfect!

At the end of the day, the more you clamor to out TEA PARTY your opponent, the more likely you are to win the nomination, but the less likely you are to win the presidency. Oh, I forgot, remember that virtually every republican in congress voted to literally kill medicare, and instead create an insurance voucher program? Remember that virtually every republican signed, and does evrything to adhere to a pledge, at any cost, to an unelected man (Grover Norquist) Yeah, obama should be shaking in his boots :) Keep Dreaming!
 




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I just saw a report that Rick Perry is leading the GOP field. If he get's the nomination expect 4 more years of Obama. Perry is a lunatic. How did Texas ever elect him? Scary.
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I'll tell you how, (by the way sshhh, lets keep this a secret, we want a TEA party inspired republican to win the nomination, obama will then be a shoe in):

-Texas' rank among states in spending for teachers' salaries: 50.
-Texas' rank among states in spending for the environment: 49.
-Texas' rank among states in per-capita funding for public health: 48.
-Texas' rank among states in delivery of social services: 47.
-Texas' rank among states in child-support collections: 42.
-Texas' rank among states in per-capita spending on public education: 41.
-Texas' rank among states in percentage of population living in poverty: 5.
-Texas rank among states in water and air pollution: 1.
-Texas rank among states in percentage of poor working parents without insurance: 1.
-Texas rank among states in percentage of children without health insurance: 1.
-Texas rank among states in executions: 1.
-Proportion of adult Texans who are currently locked up in a state prison facility: 1 in 98.
-Proportion of adult Texans who are currently under supervision of the penal system (in jail or on probation, for example): 1 in 26.
-Texas rank among states in % minumum wage jobs: 1.
-Texas rank among states in % of adults with high school diplomas: 47
 








#33- left wing liberal media, lets be honest, there is not a thing Obama could do that they would criticize. That's why there ratings are in the toilet. Additionally, Obama is the 1st President to have US credit down grade due to incoherent, out of control, non effective spending- jobless greater than 9%. Why would anybody middle class not want to get out of social security when they are going to means test those same people from ever getting it, duh!
 




Thank God some of you smart and brave people will speak the truth about the GOP/Tea Party crap! Pfizer puts so much pressure on people to be rabid republicans so they'll have thousands voting to keep their powerful policies in place, it's often hard to speak out against the machine. Think for yourselves and vote for you and your family's futures, not the corporate giants who have more money and power that they'll ever need in a lifetime.
 




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#33- left wing liberal media, lets be honest, there is not a thing Obama could do that they would criticize. That's why there ratings are in the toilet. Additionally, Obama is the 1st President to have US credit down grade due to incoherent, out of control, non effective spending- jobless greater than 9%. Why would anybody middle class not want to get out of social security when they are going to means test those same people from ever getting it, duh!
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1) If you are stating that everyone outside of FOX news, is "Liberal Media", then I guess you are right! :) But really, he is far from extreme left wing, they do exist though and are not hard to find. They are the democrats answer to the TEA party. But again, in rference to TEA party ideals, everyone is a "left wing nut".

2) On the Credit rating, you clearly have not read, nor seen the responses from S&P. Agaim, their is not a single news source outside of FOX news that thinks that obama had anything to do with that. In fact, S&P blames the Replublicans in the house of representatives. Here, let me help you; here is a quote directly from S&P:

"The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America's governance and policy making becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed..."

3) On Spending, the only spending that you can be referring to is the stimulus package, which was largely tax cuts, and assistance to the states. In fact Texas used their money to eliminate their budget deficit. Again, most economists agree that the stimulus DID work, as we were losing 700K jobs per month. In fact, many say that it wasn't big enough.

4) On middle class getting out of social security, first there are few people regardless of income that want social security eliminated. No one ever suggested that middle class Social security recipients would lose benefits due to means testing; the wealthy would be most impacted by means testing for SS and medicare. You do agree that these entitlements need to be reformed right? Now should we cut the benefits of, or charge higher premiums for Millionaires/Billionaires, or should we cut yours or your neighbors'? Remember, you are JUST a drug rep, you ARE NOT among the wealthy. Trust me Bill gates can afford it! Duh!!

Stop being so emotional, and wipe the froth from your mouth please. You need to state facts, and stop the emotional factless rants! You cant win against me, unless you do.
 








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#33- left wing liberal media, lets be honest, there is not a thing Obama could do that they would criticize. That's why there ratings are in the toilet. Additionally, Obama is the 1st President to have US credit down grade due to incoherent, out of control, non effective spending- jobless greater than 9%. Why would anybody middle class not want to get out of social security when they are going to means test those same people from ever getting it, duh!
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This just in:

- TEA Party Approval rating = 28%, and sinking
- John Boehner Approval rating = 25%
- Congress Approval Ratings = 12%
- Obama Approval rating = 43%

Republican candidates, please, please, please keep trying to out "TEA party" each other, please!
 




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