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I''m not trying to pimp the OP, but I have to ask:

Just what does one do from 7:30 to 5:30?

The industry has been co-opted by marketing morons who have turned a sophisticated selling model into a web ad or a telemarketing call over the last 20 years.

Trust and value?

I'm weary of asking the GED educated staff whether or not they prefer Light Italian or Ranch and being harangued when the food isn't warm enough.

I'm weary of doofus reps who don't know the product, science, or refinement to engage with well-educated customers. I don't moose my hair, wear stupid clique clothes, or grunt in monosyllabic answers to meaningful questions that conform to a stupid market positioning plan that has nothing to do with satisfying the real needs of the customer. And enough of the surgically enhance bubble heads with long legs, short skirts, tight blouses, and empty heads.

They don't want us anymore. The industry has emasculated us by stupid hiring, stupid marketing, and stupid metrics.

So I will work as I see fit, by exception only. Can't believe I was naive enough to go in to this business.
 












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Just work 7:30 to 5:30 everyday. They are chopping heads and watching everything, so be smart and just work.
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8:30 to 5 is more than sufficient. Don't forget the time it takes to do stuff on our "own time" (storage unit visits, testing, Comet, reports/planning, etc.) In fact, one could argue these things should be done during 8:30 to 5.
 












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I''m not trying to pimp the OP, but I have to ask:

Just what does one do from 7:30 to 5:30?

The industry has been co-opted by marketing morons who have turned a sophisticated selling model into a web ad or a telemarketing call over the last 20 years.

Trust and value?

I'm weary of asking the GED educated staff whether or not they prefer Light Italian or Ranch and being harangued when the food isn't warm enough.

I'm weary of doofus reps who don't know the product, science, or refinement to engage with well-educated customers. I don't moose my hair, wear stupid clique clothes, or grunt in monosyllabic answers to meaningful questions that conform to a stupid market positioning plan that has nothing to do with satisfying the real needs of the customer. And enough of the surgically enhance bubble heads with long legs, short skirts, tight blouses, and empty heads.

They don't want us anymore. The industry has emasculated us by stupid hiring, stupid marketing, and stupid metrics.

So I will work as I see fit, by exception only. Can't believe I was naive enough to go in to this business.
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Well, the purpose of the OP, was to inform those that think they know it all, that they are being watched, and to be safe, just work from 730 to 530.

You are giving them an extra hour, but it keeps you very safe.

If you want to keep being a baby and demand your rights, then you are going to play yourself out of a good job.

sure, we are being treated like crap, but in this economy, you are not going to get another job unless your daddy is CEO.

Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 






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Well, the purpose of the OP, was to inform those that think they know it all, that they are being watched, and to be safe, just work from 730 to 530.

You are giving them an extra hour, but it keeps you very safe.

If you want to keep being a baby and demand your rights, then you are going to play yourself out of a good job.

sure, we are being treated like crap, but in this economy, you are not going to get another job unless your daddy is CEO.

Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That is bullshit. There are plenty of sales jobs that provide the same income without being treated like a child.
 






























Anonymous said:
Well, the purpose of the OP, was to inform those that think they know it all, that they are being watched, and to be safe, just work from 730 to 530.

You are giving them an extra hour, but it keeps you very safe.

If you want to keep being a baby and demand your rights, then you are going to play yourself out of a good job.

sure, we are being treated like crap, but in this economy, you are not going to get another job unless your daddy is CEO.

Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nothing keeps you "very safe". When the next round of layoffs comes, there will be no parameter that looks at "number of hours worked".
 






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Nothing keeps you "very safe". When the next round of layoffs comes, there will be no parameter that looks at "number of hours worked".
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My "source" tells me that they are looking very closely at who is working and who is not.

So, keep it simple and just stay in the field when you are supposed to stay in the field.

And never enter a call for a provider you didn't talk to.

Its simple stuff, but my source is very strong, and chopping heads is the order of business today so they don't have to pay the severance.
 






Ain't gonna happen under NCM! Had a partner for years that never drops kids off at day care before nine, takes offices breakfast at 10:30, picks the kids up most days by 3:30 and never misses a chance to take time off to do nothing! But manages to call on a few high ranking customers to make points and managers have no idea what's going on! Has missed customers for years and nobody said anything even when confronted! Management is going to get rid of those they don't like and keep those who are consummate ass kissers and do nothings! Managers don't manage anymore, no wonder!
 






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Ain't gonna happen under NCM! Had a partner for years that never drops kids off at day care before nine, takes offices breakfast at 10:30, picks the kids up most days by 3:30 and never misses a chance to take time off to do nothing! But manages to call on a few high ranking customers to make points and managers have no idea what's going on! Has missed customers for years and nobody said anything even when confronted! Management is going to get rid of those they don't like and keep those who are consummate ass kissers and do nothings! Managers don't manage anymore, no wonder!
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Also damn straight. When the importance of customer relationships are referred to, the only one that really matters is the one you have with your boss and the boss' boss. Get your ass covered with these two and you're pretty insulated when shake-up time comes around again. It's still just a game of keeping them happy by acting like you're on top of things in your territory whether or not you get to see and engage anyone in meaningful dialogue that hopefully translates into business. I'm looking for a good turnout at my lipid/A1C program and I'm calling on some pharmacy buddies and life is sweet in pharma these days cuz the bosses still like me.
 






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Also damn straight. When the importance of customer relationships are referred to, the only one that really matters is the one you have with your boss and the boss' boss. Get your ass covered with these two and you're pretty insulated when shake-up time comes around again. It's still just a game of keeping them happy by acting like you're on top of things in your territory whether or not you get to see and engage anyone in meaningful dialogue that hopefully translates into business. I'm looking for a good turnout at my lipid/A1C program and I'm calling on some pharmacy buddies and life is sweet in pharma these days cuz the bosses still like me.
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why is it when you guys talk about how to keep your job and "kiss your bosses ass" you talk about things that anyone in the world would consider doing your job. If you dont want them to get you then kiss your bosses ass, see your customers, put in your calls, have good calls, follow up on things your supposed to etc etc. Just find it funny that you think all that is just so much to ask of anyone, especially those making 70,000 plus
 






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why is it when you guys talk about how to keep your job and "kiss your bosses ass" you talk about things that anyone in the world would consider doing your job. If you dont want them to get you then kiss your bosses ass, see your customers, put in your calls, have good calls, follow up on things your supposed to etc etc. Just find it funny that you think all that is just so much to ask of anyone, especially those making 70,000 plus
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Unlike most jobs, we are the ones that bring in the bacon.

Other jobs are just zombies, and have little to do with the bottom line. Get it?

So, we think we should be treated with a little more respect. Instead, we get treated like shit.
 






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Where hotshot?

You are so full of shit.[/QUOTE

Account Executive for consumer goods (manufacturing sales)...left pharma and the bullshit now making 25K more and left to manage my territory, never had a ride along, I am accountable for volume...bottom line. Furthermore the use of the word "hotshot" indicates that you are a douche.
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Anonymous said:
Where hotshot?

You are so full of shit.[/QUOTE

Account Executive for consumer goods (manufacturing sales)...left pharma and the bullshit now making 25K more and left to manage my territory, never had a ride along, I am accountable for volume...bottom line. Furthermore the use of the word "hotshot" indicates that you are a douche.
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Fuck you.

Another post with a job mentioning no company, nothing. More BS.

I bet you think the economy is good too, right?

Asshole.
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Anonymous said:
8:30 to 5 is more than sufficient. Don't forget the time it takes to do stuff on our "own time" (storage unit visits, testing, Comet, reports/planning, etc.) In fact, one could argue these things should be done during 8:30 to 5.
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Is there a policy that states we have to be in field making calls from 8-5pm and do "other stuff" on our after 5?
 






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