How would you rate Amedisys?

[Anonymous]

It is under investigation by the Justice Department, announced a stock buy back of $60 million, has $200 million in debt, $40 million coming due, poorly training AVP's, DOO's, staffing shortages, no budgets for marketing, Baton Rouge is out of touch and is nicknamed "A-Mess-It-Is.

Where did you get your figures from? If that is the case, why are we all waiting for the ship to sink?

 

[Anonymous]

From a MSN.com search investing in Amedisys. Stock search AMED and read about investors advising not to invest.

 

[Anonymous]

like the other poster said A-Mess-It-Is. this company is a joke from the DOO's to the AVP's to the VP's to uppermgmt. I would define it as arrorgance to feel so compeled to establish agencies in the northeast and think just because of its name people would flock at our doors. How clue-less are you? Now with multiple gov't. agencies using the comapny as a pin cushion and the stock value losing over 40% what do you expect. What other outcome was possible? purely ignorant.... self righteous, hypocritical....

 

[Anonymous]

Just yesterday, a 17 year employee, on the verge of nervous breakdown, took medical leave. She had been working 10-18 hours a day, many times seven days a week in a specialty niche in Amedisys. Her dedication to her patients drove her to do outstanding work, above and beyond the call of duty. She was very good at what she did.

Two AVP's met with her yesterday, the whole hour berating her for inappropriate behavior. She sobbed uncontrollably at their criticism and lack of understanding, in total disbelief that her dedication and hard work were not being recognized...or even mentioned. Not even a "thank you" for what she had done over the years.

Why was she working so much? Because these two new AVP's had no idea what she did for the company, nor the acuity levels of her patients. Their main focus was and is to meet the Medicare numbers set for them by the corporate overlords. They were heartless and unmoved by her condition. Perhaps some women are just as bad as some men in the business world. Well, anyway, these two were worse than men.

She asked for help since these two came to power in January of this year. She was ignored or offered ridiculous plans that would never work. Of course, she was berated for not accepting plans which she estimated as near future failures.

Last Friday, she was called into the branch to take over another position, because the LPN doing that job had been fired at 4:30 that afternoon. This was overwhelming. Not only did she have to do her near impossible job, but now she was required to another job as well until a new trainee could be found.

One AVP went on a weekend trip with her husband. The other one walked out the door leaving her in a new hell...orders not processed, no log of what had been done before she got there. The firing was a knee-jerk reaction without any forethought as to its impact.

From Monday until yesterday, these two AVP's were in budget meetings and could not be bothered to offer a plan or any support in the crisis. But, come Thursday afternoon, they were focused on the problem...the inappropriate behavior of the 17 year employee.

Until Amedisys is brought to its knees and humbled, the recommendation for employment there is NOT. Unless or course you are a heartless, inhuman, selfish wanna-be. Then, you will fit right in.

 

[Anonymous]

Just yesterday, a 17 year employee, on the verge of nervous breakdown, took medical leave. She had been working 10-18 hours a day, many times seven days a week in a specialty niche in Amedisys. Her dedication to her patients drove her to do outstanding work, above and beyond the call of duty. She was very good at what she did.

Two AVP's met with her yesterday, the whole hour berating her for inappropriate behavior. She sobbed uncontrollably at their criticism and lack of understanding, in total disbelief that her dedication and hard work were not being recognized...or even mentioned. Not even a "thank you" for what she had done over the years.

Why was she working so much? Because these two new AVP's had no idea what she did for the company, nor the acuity levels of her patients. Their main focus was and is to meet the Medicare numbers set for them by the corporate overlords. They were heartless and unmoved by her condition. Perhaps some women are just as bad as some men in the business world. Well, anyway, these two were worse than men.

She asked for help since these two came to power in January of this year. She was ignored or offered ridiculous plans that would never work. Of course, she was berated for not accepting plans which she estimated as near future failures.

Last Friday, she was called into the branch to take over another position, because the LPN doing that job had been fired at 4:30 that afternoon. This was overwhelming. Not only did she have to do her near impossible job, but now she was required to another job as well until a new trainee could be found.

One AVP went on a weekend trip with her husband. The other one walked out the door leaving her in a new hell...orders not processed, no log of what had been done before she got there. The firing was a knee-jerk reaction without any forethought as to its impact.

From Monday until yesterday, these two AVP's were in budget meetings and could not be bothered to offer a plan or any support in the crisis. But, come Thursday afternoon, they were focused on the problem...the inappropriate behavior of the 17 year employee.

Until Amedisys is brought to its knees and humbled, the recommendation for employment there is NOT. Unless or course you are a heartless, inhuman, selfish wanna-be. Then, you will fit right in.

Use the "Golden Rule" - treat others as we would like to be treated- this poster is right on. that is a true miracle she lasted this long. The company needs to be brought down by the justice dept. by the way the quote comes right off the a-mess-this is website. what a joke.....

 

[Anonymous]

Hmm....Gentiva, Vitas hospice and Almost Family also asked to respond to the DOJ.

 

[Anonymous]

The director of physical therapy here pushes all the field nurses to get that extra visit and all care transition coordinators to suggest PT even if the doctor has not given orders. This has been going on for years. Finally, Medicare is catching on to the process.

 

[Anonymous]

I have an interview for an AE position in midwest.

1) How are they considered by the industry as an HH employer?
2) How do salary / bonus compare to others?
3) Car allowance? or Car (I know, probably dreaming)

... anything else you can add is most appreciated.

I'm going in eyes open, realizing it's not pharma and not expecting it to be, but I am looking for a decent career.

Thanks!

You may not see the AE position going far into the future. There are plans afoot to get rid of AE positions altogether. It makes a great deal of sense, because care transition coordinators are upset that their AE's get credit for everything they do without lifting a finger. The CTC's work very hard and it is not fair that AE's get credit for what the CTC's do just because the AE's assigned doctors write the HHC orders.

AE's have received undeserved credits only because they were not meeting their numbers.
The truth is Amedisys should hire ONLY RN's, because RN's know the real business of HHC. Pharma reps have no business in HHC because they are not experienced RN's who understand what it takes for patients to get the care they need.

Amedisys has lost its way because it grew too fast to become the "premier" HHC agency. Now it is paying the price for the detour from the ground up. It has ignored true HR care for its own employees as it marches onward toward domination of HHC.

If a HHC company cannot see to help its own employees when they have needs, how can it have the focus to help the patients it is supposed to serve? Its core values, then, only serve in conquest of everything in its way too achieve supremacy.

You will only have a "career" with Amedisys if you become as numb as the powers that be. If you are willing to give up your personal integrity, then a career with Amedisys is for you.

 

[Anonymous]

Hmmm, let me see. They are dumb enough to hire rejects from SA. I am not sure if they lied on their resumes or the hiring manager just did not care that they had crappy ratings year after year. Just look at the ones in Tennessee. If they can get hired, so can you.

 

[Anonymous]

Hmmm, let me see. They are dumb enough to hire rejects from SA. I am not sure if they lied on their resumes or the hiring manager just did not care that they had crappy ratings year after year. Just look at the ones in Tennessee. If they can get hired, so can you.

Absolutely! Just show cleavage and wear really expensive outfits. With Amedisys, it's all about show anyway.

 

[Anonymous]

CTCs get credit for everything they enter into the laptor. It is the AE that has to fight for what we "actually" get credit for. It takes a sales person to penetrate accounts and build relationships. Many, not all nurses can't learn that in a week long sales training that Amedisys provides. That comes from years of experience.

There are many ex pharmaceutical reps as AEs that have vast experience in both the selling to all medical personnel and trained in the clinical information they present. You can have all that clinical knowledge as a nurse, but if you can't sell, then what impact is it going to make?

 

[Anonymous]

CTCs get credit for everything they enter into the laptor. It is the AE that has to fight for what we "actually" get credit for. It takes a sales person to penetrate accounts and build relationships. Many, not all nurses can't learn that in a week long sales training that Amedisys provides. That comes from years of experience.

There are many ex pharmaceutical reps as AEs that have vast experience in both the selling to all medical personnel and trained in the clinical information they present. You can have all that clinical knowledge as a nurse, but if you can't sell, then what impact is it going to make?

Agreed. Unfortunately, the template for Amedisys is about selling, in the meantime, it cannot support those sales. The CTC's are understaffed and overworked and required to do more and more. They are the ones who continue the relationships that were built by the AEs. They are the ones who actually do the daily work so Amedisys and the AEs can get paid.

Field nurses don't get a company cell phone or a car. And yet they are the ones who deliver the care so Amedisys gets paid.

AEs get new laptops that actually work effectively, while CTCs are still using old "Stink Pads" that take 45 minutes to upload one referral.

The point is that selling is the focus instead of operations. Operations has suffered to the point of negligence. AEs can go out and sell, but then the care has to be delivered by someone else. Those someone-elses are not supported as they should be.

There is a hierarchy of oppression against the very people, nurses, that manage the care so Amedisys can come through and deliver on its sales philosophy of keeping people out of hospitals. It is a plantation mentality that enslaves its workers. When you get down to how much a CTC makes per hour even with bonuses it's just not worth it. Pretty close to minimum wage.

This is the impetus of the comment about pharma reps not belonging in the business. Certainly, they are adept at making connections and developing relationships. But, when that becomes the driving focus of HHC, they don't belong.

In other words, bring equilibrium to Amedisys with the appreciation of much needed support to operations and everyone will be much happier.

BTW...why are CTC's under a sales AVP anyway? They used to be managers. Now they are coordinators. That is an operations job. Stop making them listen to those stupid pep rally calls. It is a waste of their time.

 

[Anonymous]

AEs get the weekend off, don't they? They go home at 5pm every day or soon after, just like the branch staff. BUT, CTC's work 7 days a week most of the time.

Don't AEs get to spend time with their families? My spouse, who is a CTC, and I would like to have time together. We would actually like to go on a 3 day trip together that doesn't include Amedisys meetings or Chairman's Club.

We would like to have time to walk the dog at night. But, that is difficult when Amedisys work continues on into the late evening, sometimes past midnight, just to get the work done.

So, while AEs are actually enjoying life, my CTC has no life.

Can you tell I don't like this at all?

So how about all you AEs jumping into my CTC's shoes for awhile. Try having to put up with DOOs in multiple branches who don't want to take a referral because they are understaffed. Try putting up with DOOs yelling and screaming and cursing at you on the phone when you are just trying to get your work done and have the PATIENT seen...so you can meet your numbers too.

Try getting an IV antibiotic through a DME company out to a home when the patient is released from the hospital at 4:30 on Friday afternoon and have the nurse out by 9 or 10pm to give the next required infusion. Did I mention, the branch closes at 5pm on Friday?

Try getting the weekend nurse on-call (who covers several branches) to get back with you in a timely manner when you are under the gun to get your patient seen. Especially when the clinical manager forgot to schedule a field nurse for critical care or scheduled too many patients in a day. Try calling the patient or their family contact to apologize for Amedisys not getting out to see their loved one.

Try giving information to the branch AGAIN because they won't or can't read the information sent in on laptor. Information that took forever to enter because it was so complicated. So many medications. So much everything. Such critical care.

Try putting up with AVPs that only care about getting their bonus; that don't understand or care how many hours you work to get the job done. Try being so exhausted that you are afraid you will make a mistake and lose your license. Did I mention AVPs go home to their families every night?

There is a lot more too lengthy to list.

When you have been in their shoes, then come back and tell me that you should get credit for the work they have done. You go do as much work and then you will have the right to complain that you have to fight for your credits.

 

[Anonymous]

You may not see the AE position going far into the future. There are plans afoot to get rid of AE positions altogether. It makes a great deal of sense, because care transition coordinators are upset that their AE's get credit for everything they do without lifting a finger. The CTC's work very hard and it is not fair that AE's get credit for what the CTC's do just because the AE's assigned doctors write the HHC orders.

AE's have received undeserved credits only because they were not meeting their numbers.
The truth is Amedisys should hire ONLY RN's, because RN's know the real business of HHC. Pharma reps have no business in HHC because they are not experienced RN's who understand what it takes for patients to get the care they need.

Amedisys has lost its way because it grew too fast to become the "premier" HHC agency. Now it is paying the price for the detour from the ground up. It has ignored true HR care for its own employees as it marches onward toward domination of HHC.

If a HHC company cannot see to help its own employees when they have needs, how can it have the focus to help the patients it is supposed to serve? Its core values, then, only serve in conquest of everything in its way too achieve supremacy.

You will only have a "career" with Amedisys if you become as numb as the powers that be. If you are willing to give up your personal integrity, then a career with Amedisys is for you.

First of all honey who crowned you queen of HHC. You are pretty full of yourself. Most of the field nurses, DOO's and CTC's have not impressed me at all. Our CTC lasted 2 months and thought that just because she was an RN she could sell. She obtained 0 referrals. Our DOO is fat, ugly and cocky and brings absolutely nothing to the table. She came on one sales call and was laughed out of the office. I never saw her on another sales call. So sweetie before knock sales learn how to do it first. It is an art not a science something you know nothing about. PS-is it a pre-requisite to be nasty arss to become an RN?

 

[Anonymous]

You may not see the AE position going far into the future. There are plans afoot to get rid of AE positions altogether. It makes a great deal of sense, because care transition coordinators are upset that their AE's get credit for everything they do without lifting a finger. The CTC's work very hard and it is not fair that AE's get credit for what the CTC's do just because the AE's assigned doctors write the HHC orders.

AE's have received undeserved credits only because they were not meeting their numbers.
The truth is Amedisys should hire ONLY RN's, because RN's know the real business of HHC. Pharma reps have no business in HHC because they are not experienced RN's who understand what it takes for patients to get the care they need.

Amedisys has lost its way because it grew too fast to become the "premier" HHC agency. Now it is paying the price for the detour from the ground up. It has ignored true HR care for its own employees as it marches onward toward domination of HHC.

If a HHC company cannot see to help its own employees when they have needs, how can it have the focus to help the patients it is supposed to serve? Its core values, then, only serve in conquest of everything in its way too achieve supremacy.

You will only have a "career" with Amedisys if you become as numb as the powers that be. If you are willing to give up your personal integrity, then a career with Amedisys is for you.

what are you smoking? I have not run into one CTC that knows truly how to sell-they are order takers-no more no less. Get off your high horse queen of the HHC world. You must be related to billy bob.....

 

[Anonymous]

RN's do not nessarily know sales. They cannot compare to experienced sales professionals, whether it be pharma experience or otherwise. HH is a complex sale. The relationship with the physician and office must be cultivated carefully to grow the business. The trend here seems to be moving closer towards a professional sales approach not away from it. Nothing has indicated a move away from this. To eliminate AE's at this point would be a disaster! AE's and AM's/CTC's should and are working together in concert, as a team. It is the best of both worlds and essentially the best for the patient and for the company. It is a great system and is working well.

 

[Anonymous]

First of all honey who crowned you queen of HHC. You are pretty full of yourself. Most of the field nurses, DOO's and CTC's have not impressed me at all. Our CTC lasted 2 months and thought that just because she was an RN she could sell. She obtained 0 referrals. Our DOO is fat, ugly and cocky and brings absolutely nothing to the table. She came on one sales call and was laughed out of the office. I never saw her on another sales call. So sweetie before knock sales learn how to do it first. It is an art not a science something you know nothing about. PS-is it a pre-requisite to be nasty arss to become an RN?

You have the exact attitude I'm talking about. You are part of the problem.
BTW...I am an extended Amedisys family member. Thank God I don't work for it. I just have to live with it.

 

[Anonymous]

what are you smoking? I have not run into one CTC that knows truly how to sell-they are order takers-no more no less. Get off your high horse queen of the HHC world. You must be related to billy bob.....

Again, you are the company attitude I'm talking about. You really think my spouse is just an order taker? Walk in her shoes for a day and night and tell me she's just an order taker.

Your attitude is offensive, unwitting, self-righteous, and selfish in light of her reality.

The truth is you wouldn't know what to do with the orders. You just send them into CID and they deal with the nuts and bolts of care. Go back to your mirror and put on some more makeup.

The competition in our area is intense trying to make relationships and my spouse's AEs don't continue the relationship with the hospitals. They are assigned to doctors' offices. So, don't tell me my CTC doesn't sell your crappy company with ART.

 

[Anonymous]

RN's do not nessarily know sales. They cannot compare to experienced sales professionals, whether it be pharma experience or otherwise. HH is a complex sale. The relationship with the physician and office must be cultivated carefully to grow the business. The trend here seems to be moving closer towards a professional sales approach not away from it. Nothing has indicated a move away from this. To eliminate AE's at this point would be a disaster! AE's and AM's/CTC's should and are working together in concert, as a team. It is the best of both worlds and essentially the best for the patient and for the company. It is a great system and is working well.

Prepare to get another job in the next 5 years.

 

[Anonymous]

Again, you are the company attitude I'm talking about. You really think my spouse is just an order taker? Walk in her shoes for a day and night and tell me she's just an order taker.

Your attitude is offensive, unwitting, self-righteous, and selfish in light of her reality.

The truth is you wouldn't know what to do with the orders. You just send them into CID and they deal with the nuts and bolts of care. Go back to your mirror and put on some more makeup.

The competition in our area is intense trying to make relationships and my spouse's AEs don't continue the relationship with the hospitals. They are assigned to doctors' offices. So, don't tell me my CTC doesn't sell your crappy company with ART.

do you really think I care what you think or your spouce thinks. I know plenty of rn's.... The one's in my office and other offices surrounding us have a self-righteous attitude. You give women a little power and they think they rule the world.... it is amazing....now go put your make-up on and shut up... your are starting to annoy me..........