Fuck You inVentiv For Paying us CSO's So Shitty! Most Of Us Spend All Day Everyday

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looking for a real job with a decent salary. This is a part time temporary job at best for 99% of us. Sometimes you have no choice but believe me when I can split i'm gone. You get what you pay for. Pay me shit you get shit. I need to run I have a interview in a hour.
 












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The voice of reason. I have been working one of these contracts for about 9 months and interview every chance I get. My main challenge is that the only opportunities I seem to get are other contract positions. I want OUT of contract and back on with a real company. I am sick of being treated like shit by the direct reps.
 






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The pay sucks and my manager sucks. I should have expected this from what everone has said. This was a mistake for all of us.
 












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The next thing below this would be waiting tables or working a toll booth. Actually neither would be too far below this job. I think many of us would quit but it is lunch money while i continue to interview.
 






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My drugs are lousy, my team is worse, and the manager is a old gray with halitosis. I have to lie to everyone I know that my salary is really great because I am so embarrassed that this is where I find myself at 47 years old. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to get a job right now that is decent and pays well? I sleep until noon and then spend the rest of the day talking to worthless recruiters who don't have anything much right now either.
 






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It's a damn contract job idiots!!! It's not like you are a doctor or something special. There is nothing different between this and any part time bullshit temporary Halloween store sales job. It is here today and will probably be gone tomorrow. What is all the talk about?
 












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The next thing below this would be waiting tables or working a toll booth. Actually neither would be too far below this job. I think many of us would quit but it is lunch money while i continue to interview.

I do wait tables 4 nights a week just to make ends meet on top of my cso job. I miss the old days of a great job, big money, envy of everyone. Nothing good lasts forever. This wont either. I am trying everyday to better myself and get the hell out of this misery.
 












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I do wait tables 4 nights a week just to make ends meet on top of my cso job. I miss the old days of a great job, big money, envy of everyone. Nothing good lasts forever. This wont either. I am trying everyday to better myself and get the hell out of this misery.

I need to do something like this I did not think we could have another job on the side. I am making about 1/3 less in salary from just a year ago. I am 2 months behing on my mortgage due to this idiot job. The pay sucks but the work is easy and mindless. Most of us have a who gives a shit attitude and do very little to get by. No one cares and i dont care because I cant even make ends meet with this pay. I am looking into a second job today.
 






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I need to do something like this I did not think we could have another job on the side. I am making about 1/3 less in salary from just a year ago. I am 2 months behing on my mortgage due to this idiot job. The pay sucks but the work is easy and mindless. Most of us have a who gives a shit attitude and do very little to get by. No one cares and i dont care because I cant even make ends meet with this pay. I am looking into a second job today.

You knew the salary before you took the job. Why are you complaining now? It's not the companies fault you accepted the opportunity. Like is about choices and it is your choice to work for InVentiv. Man up and do the right thing and stop acting as thought InVentiv intentionally stuck it to you. You didn't have to take the job and it's not InVentiv's fault you have a mortgage your can't afford.
 






I'm on a decent contract where the pay is decent, bonuses are decent and CSO's do ALL the same stuff (lunches, programs, plus all the BS admin work) as that of the direct reps. We are an embedded team. I care, I work and I sell.

With that said... I am feeling more and more like a sucker because we are TREATED differently. We are the red-headed step children and we get all the pressure and stress and reprimands (if applicable), but none of the CREDIT. We are constantly reminded that we don't get the same incentives/rewards as the direct reps, yet are told in the same breath we have all the same responsibility and pressue to perform. The worst part for me is I know I'm better than some of these direct reps. Most of us CSOs were the "direct reps" at one point! The company knows this and they know they've got very good, experienced reps at quite a bargain. I'm just appalled at the lack of professionalism in the way this whole thing is handled.

My point... You could say "you get what you pay for", but you also "reap what you sow." I said the pay was decent and what not, but because of the treatment, etc., I care less and less and will probably start doing less because what I am doing doesn't seem to matter and I'm tired of seeing others get all the credit.

Finally, forget inVentiv. It's usually all about the client company and inVentiv is just the name on the paycheck. That's how it is for me at least. And if you're not part of an embedded team, my guess is it's still all about the client company. inVentiv will not have your back. They just want to keep the client company happy. The client company has ALL the power and control on these contracts.
 






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I'm on a decent contract where the pay is decent, bonuses are decent and CSO's do ALL the same stuff (lunches, programs, plus all the BS admin work) as that of the direct reps. We are an embedded team. I care, I work and I sell.

With that said... I am feeling more and more like a sucker because we are TREATED differently. We are the red-headed step children and we get all the pressure and stress and reprimands (if applicable), but none of the CREDIT. We are constantly reminded that we don't get the same incentives/rewards as the direct reps, yet are told in the same breath we have all the same responsibility and pressue to perform. The worst part for me is I know I'm better than some of these direct reps. Most of us CSOs were the "direct reps" at one point! The company knows this and they know they've got very good, experienced reps at quite a bargain. I'm just appalled at the lack of professionalism in the way this whole thing is handled.

My point... You could say "you get what you pay for", but you also "reap what you sow." I said the pay was decent and what not, but because of the treatment, etc., I care less and less and will probably start doing less because what I am doing doesn't seem to matter and I'm tired of seeing others get all the credit.

Finally, forget inVentiv. It's usually all about the client company and inVentiv is just the name on the paycheck. That's how it is for me at least. And if you're not part of an embedded team, my guess is it's still all about the client company. inVentiv will not have your back. They just want to keep the client company happy. The client company has ALL the power and control on these contracts.

Because we ARE different. We ARE the step children. We are NOT the real children. We are contract and that is not the same and it does not get the same respect, recognition. I had no idea it would be this bad. This is the worst mistake I have ever made.
 






Re: Fuck You inVentiv For Paying us CSO's So Shitty! Most Of Us Spend All Day Everyda

I'm on a decent contract where the pay is decent, bonuses are decent and CSO's do ALL the same stuff (lunches, programs, plus all the BS admin work) as that of the direct reps. We are an embedded team. I care, I work and I sell.

With that said... I am feeling more and more like a sucker because we are TREATED differently. We are the red-headed step children and we get all the pressure and stress and reprimands (if applicable), but none of the CREDIT. We are constantly reminded that we don't get the same incentives/rewards as the direct reps, yet are told in the same breath we have all the same responsibility and pressue to perform. The worst part for me is I know I'm better than some of these direct reps. Most of us CSOs were the "direct reps" at one point! The company knows this and they know they've got very good, experienced reps at quite a bargain. I'm just appalled at the lack of professionalism in the way this whole thing is handled.

My point... You could say "you get what you pay for", but you also "reap what you sow." I said the pay was decent and what not, but because of the treatment, etc., I care less and less and will probably start doing less because what I am doing doesn't seem to matter and I'm tired of seeing others get all the credit.

Finally, forget inVentiv. It's usually all about the client company and inVentiv is just the name on the paycheck. That's how it is for me at least. And if you're not part of an embedded team, my guess is it's still all about the client company. inVentiv will not have your back. They just want to keep the client company happy. The client company has ALL the power and control on these contracts.

My manager is such a dick. He wants us to think he is a real manager. Contract manager now that is a joke. Well it is all a joke.
 






Re: Fuck You inVentiv For Paying us CSO's So Shitty! Most Of Us Spend All Day Everyda

Shut the hell up all you fools. Why let them know we don't like our jobs and that we are doing what we want all day long? Those people read these posts. Keep doing what you want or nothing at all but quit telling. We are all the same and we know it is a 2 day job. So why post it. Enjoy the free ride even if it does pay like shit.
 






Re: Fuck You inVentiv For Paying us CSO's So Shitty! Most Of Us Spend All Day Everyda

Shut the hell up all you fools. Why let them know we don't like our jobs and that we are doing what we want all day long? Those people read these posts. Keep doing what you want or nothing at all but quit telling. We are all the same and we know it is a 2 day job. So why post it. Enjoy the free ride even if it does pay like shit.

Exactly, managers and above see the postings. It's people like those who post and those who work half ass that have caused the call metric requirments. 70% signature rate and 30% sample rate all of which can be seen thgough the data base reports. Be careful if your are working just 2 days. With no call information in the data base for the other 3 your manager will question you.
 






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Exactly, managers and above see the postings. It's people like those who post and those who work half ass that have caused the call metric requirments. 70% signature rate and 30% sample rate all of which can be seen thgough the data base reports. Be careful if your are working just 2 days. With no call information in the data base for the other 3 your manager will question you.

Most of us work these hours. 2 days is more than enough in fact many weeks it is too much. Everyone I know just signs for the Doctor a few times a day. The samples just go in the trash. What ever it takes. Do these stupid people really think they are going to get the cream of the crop? You pay us shitty part time money worse money than most of us got in our first job and you will get nothing much in return. It works our for all of us everyone is happy.
 






Re: Fuck You inVentiv For Paying us CSO's So Shitty! Most Of Us Spend All Day Everyda

Where else can we work 1 or maybe 2 days a week for this money? I don't look at my pay and think of it as a full time salary, that would be too upsetting. I look at it as look how much I make for 1 or 2 days work a week.