Financial Woes Reduce AstraZeneca's Industry Profile

[Anonymous]

So, the management morons are trying to save a few bucks by cutting out the bigwigs non-essential travel huh? They have DM's with just a few reps, reps with basically one drug only to sale, falling profits, no pipeline, failed deals and they worry about chicken shit such as this. You can't make this crap up if you tried! Read the article.


http://www.citmagazine.com/article/1157073/AstraZenecas-events-team-shrinks-14-two

 

[Anonymous]

So, the management morons are trying to save a few bucks by cutting out the bigwigs non-essential travel huh? They have DM's with just a few reps, reps with basically one drug only to sale, falling profits, no pipeline, failed deals and they worry about chicken shit such as this. You can't make this crap up if you tried! Read the article.


http://www.citmagazine.com/article/1157073/AstraZenecas-events-team-shrinks-14-two

These dumb fucks are incapable of coming up with any new ideas. Everything from them is recylcled or copied including this. How many times have we gone through travel cutbacks, pump your own gas, fly coach, limit meals under $50, smaller company cars, blah blah blah? Meanwhile they vote themselves huge pay raises and bonuses? We get lay offs and they have to fly coach. Seems fair to me.

 

[Anonymous]

These dumb fucks are incapable of coming up with any new ideas. Everything from them is recylcled or copied including this. How many times have we gone through travel cutbacks, pump your own gas, fly coach, limit meals under $50, smaller company cars, blah blah blah? Meanwhile they vote themselves huge pay raises and bonuses? We get lay offs and they have to fly coach. Seems fair to me.

61,000 employees world wide? How many in the US? Say 10,000? We are still way too fat...

 

[Anonymous]

61,000 employees world wide? How many in the US? Say 10,000? We are still way too fat...

Not only are you morons too fat, but you're also too damn stupid to be in a "real" industry, especially you "so called" reps. Detail people is what you really are, not sales people as we old timers were.
We actually sold products and were bonused on what we single handedly sold. We had no reason for partners, nor did we have any need for idiot-retainers (marketing people) to report to on a minute to minute schedule. Only the best of us kept our jobs and made the big bucks....something that few of you if any, would be talented enough to do today.
Pharma is dying, largely due to the reliance on me-too products and sales forces that no longer sell. To us old timers, who saw it coming, we can only laugh at the industry as it is today. Thank heavens for our former salaries, bonuses, huge IRA's and pensions....something you morons will never see. Believe it or not; AZ (at least Stuart and Zeneca) were great places to be.

 

[Anonymous]

Not only are you morons too fat, but you're also too damn stupid to be in a "real" industry, especially you "so called" reps. Detail people is what you really are, not sales people as we old timers were.
We actually sold products and were bonused on what we single handedly sold. We had no reason for partners, nor did we have any need for idiot-retainers (marketing people) to report to on a minute to minute schedule. Only the best of us kept our jobs and made the big bucks....something that few of you if any, would be talented enough to do today.
Pharma is dying, largely due to the reliance on me-too products and sales forces that no longer sell. To us old timers, who saw it coming, we can only laugh at the industry as it is today. Thank heavens for our former salaries, bonuses, huge IRA's and pensions....something you morons will never see. Believe it or not; AZ (at least Stuart and Zeneca) were great places to be.

Well, it is people like you that laid the foundations for the pharma of today. If your life is so wonderful and pension so great, why are you such an insufferable, angry asshole?

 

[Anonymous]

Well, it is people like you that laid the foundations for the pharma of today. If your life is so wonderful and pension so great, why are you such an insufferable, angry asshole?

Good question.

Likely because, if he's not lying his ass of to begin with, he was fully invested in 2007 and 2008 and lost 1/2 (or much more) of everything, and hasn't come anywhere near the balances he had in his retirement account at the big bull market top.

And make no mistake, it was not his fault. The old timer is as self-entitled as the rest of us! He deserves to win, because of who he is, not what he does. The reason he lost so much money in the stock market is because he's a victim. It was Bush's, the corrupt Wall Streeters, someone else's fault, guaranteed.

 

[Anonymous]

Good question.

Likely because, if he's not lying his ass of to begin with, he was fully invested in 2007 and 2008 and lost 1/2 (or much more) of everything, and hasn't come anywhere near the balances he had in his retirement account at the big bull market top.

And make no mistake, it was not his fault. The old timer is as self-entitled as the rest of us! He deserves to win, because of who he is, not what he does. The reason he lost so much money in the stock market is because he's a victim. It was Bush's, the corrupt Wall Streeters, someone else's fault, guaranteed.

Those fortunate enough to qualify for the legacy Stuart pension and had in more than 25 years are set for life, something the newbies will never see in their lifetimes no matter how successful they are in their careers.

 

[Anonymous]

Good question.

Likely because, if he's not lying his ass of to begin with, he was fully invested in 2007 and 2008 and lost 1/2 (or much more) of everything, and hasn't come anywhere near the balances he had in his retirement account at the big bull market top.

And make no mistake, it was not his fault. The old timer is as self-entitled as the rest of us! He deserves to win, because of who he is, not what he does. The reason he lost so much money in the stock market is because he's a victim. It was Bush's, the corrupt Wall Streeters, someone else's fault, guaranteed.

Like the rest of us did not take the hit too? Seriously, anyone already retired is far luckier than the generation coming up. We not only lost and lost again but will be the first generation to probably retire at the worst time in history and ill-prepared for the deep cuts our wonderful government and these corporations have made to our accounts. The next generation, the forty-somethings, still have time to catch-up and reprogram for the new game. Those of us in our fifties not only cannot get out of pharma or get jobs if we're let go but are out of time to play catch-up.

 

[Anonymous]

Like the rest of us did not take the hit too? Seriously, anyone already retired is far luckier than the generation coming up. We not only lost and lost again but will be the first generation to probably retire at the worst time in history and ill-prepared for the deep cuts our wonderful government and these corporations have made to our accounts. The next generation, the forty-somethings, still have time to catch-up and reprogram for the new game. Those of us in our fifties not only cannot get out of pharma or get jobs if we're let go but are out of time to play catch-up.

At least those in their 50s will get Social Security. The rest of us under 55 may not even get that. We will certainly never get back what we paid in. But never fear, we can stand in line with the rest of the entitlement group for our Obama handouts. Share the wealth baby until there ain't no wealth no more.

 

[Anonymous]

Those fortunate enough to qualify for the legacy Stuart pension and had in more than 25 years are set for life, something the newbies will never see in their lifetimes no matter how successful they are in their careers.

Yeah right, jackass. First, you likely are wanting, otherwise you wouldn't be here fantasizing. Second, and more importantly, you've got your faith in AZ to be honorable, when they're bucks involved? You think the CEO won't sell you like a horse to a glue factory if he can profit from it? Remember Enron?

Enjoy your fantasy in whatever form you're enjoying it. I sincerely hope you don't get the reality call, because if it happens to you, it'll happen to me too. Unfortunately, both of us know it's coming, soon.

 

[Anonymous]

Like the rest of us did not take the hit too? Seriously, anyone already retired is far luckier than the generation coming up. We not only lost and lost again but will be the first generation to probably retire at the worst time in history and ill-prepared for the deep cuts our wonderful government and these corporations have made to our accounts. The next generation, the forty-somethings, still have time to catch-up and reprogram for the new game. Those of us in our fifties not only cannot get out of pharma or get jobs if we're let go but are out of time to play catch-up.

Well conventional thinking goes that the retired can't afford loss, so they should be in bonds. Hard to make the change, though, while market is growing at 20% a year, and you're becoming a millionaire. Then you made 200k the next year, and things are looking great.

When the Obama office won in '08, the market was cut in 1/2 in short order. How many people do you think sold, when the market fell 500 points on the first day? Don't you think most people held on, hoping that there'd be a rebound?

What happened is the same thing that always happens: the two emotions are fear and greed. Sell when the market is greedy, buy when the market is fearful. I'd bet 10 to 1 that the braggadosio self-proclaimed "old timer" held through the all of the upside and the downturn until the market hit bottom, then out of fear, sold when he should have bought. He strikes me as just that kind of asshole.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, it is people like you that laid the foundations for the pharma of today. If your life is so wonderful and pension so great, why are you such an insufferable, angry asshole?

Because, when we left, there was still some life in the industry, a possibility of honesty and quality still prevailed....until the half wits from Astra prevailed....hiring ignorant morons like yourself, and creating a totally dis-honest and sickening envirenment that had not been here before.
The situation is now beyond redemption, everything good about the industry, and the company is gone. You poor people are the victims, not me. I'm doing just fine. However, you will never know how good it was here....and why we resent what is left.

 

[Anonymous]

PS to the above:

If suffering from the Bush recession is your wish for me....sorry!
Actually did take a hit for awhile, but quickly recovered all I lost.... and if a IRA of over 2 mil and a house valued at over 880K, and a big Mercedes is suffering (as of today)....well I guess I'll have to suffer for a long time yet.

Bye!

 

[Anonymous]

PS to the above:

If suffering from the Bush recession is your wish for me....sorry!
Actually did take a hit for awhile, but quickly recovered all I lost.... and if a IRA of over 2 mil and a house valued at over 880K, and a big Mercedes is suffering (as of today)....well I guess I'll have to suffer for a long time yet.

Bye!

. . . and on CP mid-day. You are so full of shit. If you are really that well off, go and do something productive or generous with your time instead of coming here to bitch and gloat. Wow.

 

[Anonymous]

. . . and on CP mid-day. You are so full of shit. If you are really that well off, go and do something productive or generous with your time instead of coming here to bitch and gloat. Wow.

I'm very generous with my money, of which I've got plenty...and obviously with my time as well.
I even listen to morons like you....and that's really being generous.

Bye!!

 

[Anonymous]

Well conventional thinking goes that the retired can't afford loss, so they should be in bonds. Hard to make the change, though, while market is growing at 20% a year, and you're becoming a millionaire. Then you made 200k the next year, and things are looking great.

When the Obama office won in '08, the market was cut in 1/2 in short order. How many people do you think sold, when the market fell 500 points on the first day? Don't you think most people held on, hoping that there'd be a rebound?


You stupid ass, the market lost its value when Bush was in office, look it up. He had a surplus and ended up with a deficit as well as a mortgage bubble and a market crash. Bush was a really successful president wasn't he?

 

[Anonymous]

Well conventional thinking goes that the retired can't afford loss, so they should be in bonds. Hard to make the change, though, while market is growing at 20% a year, and you're becoming a millionaire. Then you made 200k the next year, and things are looking great.

When the Obama office won in '08, the market was cut in 1/2 in short order. How many people do you think sold, when the market fell 500 points on the first day? Don't you think most people held on, hoping that there'd be a rebound?


You stupid ass, the market lost its value when Bush was in office, look it up. He had a surplus and ended up with a deficit as well as a mortgage bubble and a market crash. Bush was a really successful president wasn't he?

OK I looked it up:

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=...n;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;

I also lived through it, alert. Paying attention. The market crashed on Obama's election, down from 9 to under 7,000.

You're like the rest of the liberals. Deny the facts and blame someone. Bush wasn't good financially, but all the libs can talk about -- still -- is Bush.

So since you're such a smart guy, tell me: did you buy at Dow 6,900? Or did you sell? That was the salient point we were discussing before you decided to interrupt and blame Mr. Bush.

I think it's really Carter's fault.

 

[Anonymous]

I watched the bubble grow and sold before it crashed. It happened while Bush was still president. You can try to rewrite history but it's good to wait 20 or 30 years until everyone forgets. Liberal or not, the record stands.

 

[Anonymous]

the Dow went from 13,000 in May 2008 to 8,500 by late October 2008 i.e. before the election. If I remember correctly, McCain was ahead in the polls until the markets crashed so it was probably largely due to the crash that got Obama elected.

 

[Anonymous]

Tuesday, November 4, 2008 (election day), DJIA closing price: 9625.25

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/historical/default.asp?symb=djia&closeDate=11/04/08&x=41&y=25


Wednesday, November 5, 2008 (day after Obama was elected), DJIA closing price: 9139.27

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/historical/default.asp?symb=djia&closeDate=11/05/08&x=0&y=0


That's about a 500 point drop. The DJIA went down below 7,000 soon after that. And the liberals talk about the conservatives rewriting history.

Most of the things liberals claim are lies.