Field Medical: What is next?

[anonymous]

I think Nancy Y. is still trying to figure out how fake/incompetent/disconnected Cathy is.

 

[anonymous]

Cathy just talks down to people and so do most of the other poor leaders that are still here. They have an elitist mentality.

 

[rana]

Cathy just talks down to people and so do most of the other poor leaders that are still here. They have an elitist mentality.

They are the best of the best, Go smell the glove you serf

 

[anonymous]

I think Nancy Y. is still trying to figure out how fake/incompetent/disconnected Cathy is.

She 100% knows that Cathy is a fucking idiot that will just be her puppet and will do whatever she makes her do .... if she (Cathy) only had a brain to think for herself. One of the worst FDs of all times becomes the Head what the hell did you think was going to happen.

 

[anonymous]

All the good people left so we are stuck with morons like her and the rest of this pathetic group they call leaders

 

[anonymous]

She 100% knows that Cathy is a fucking idiot that will just be her puppet and will do whatever she makes her do .... if she (Cathy) only had a brain to think for herself. One of the worst FDs of all times becomes the Head what the hell did you think was going to happen.

I agree. Look at what we have accomplished over the years - holding the mirror to the poor FMT leadership. Lacking any employee surveys and a toothless employee HR/D&I, through Cafepharma we have provided helpful feedback to Medical leadership.

Some like Nancy have used the feedback to make improvements, while others like Cathy just miss the mark.

case in point, Cathy sends us vague email updates/zoom soliloquies on her activity (or the lack thereof).

CS is as useless as a spare tire on an unicycle. Hopefully we remove this lazy, spineless, festering cancer before she metastasizes further

 

[anonymous]

I agree. Look at what we have accomplished over the years - holding the mirror to the poor FMT leadership. Lacking any employee surveys and a toothless employee HR/D&I, through Cafepharma we have provided helpful feedback to Medical leadership.

Some like Nancy have used the feedback to make improvements, while others like Cathy just miss the mark.

case in point, Cathy sends us vague email updates/zoom soliloquies on her activity (or the lack thereof).

CS is as useless as a spare tire on an unicycle. Hopefully we remove this lazy, spineless, festering cancer before she metastasizes further

This could be closer to the truth!

Nancy actually is open to feedback good or bad, sometimes she can jump the gun on things but I rather that ANY DAY over garbage emails that say nothing, highlight whatever BS the FMLT does, it's all just so self serving. It's clear from just listening to the townhall alone that while Alexander, Greg, Nancy speak their is valuable content being presented the moment an FMLT member opens their mouth it was all just a rambling of their stream of consciousness- role clarity Brain spoke for a whoping 10 mins I certainly have no effing clue what they are clarifying still does anyone else? If I hear Cathy or Robert talk about the MSLs needing to be more proactive ONE MORE TIME I think we all will lose it, not only does it not make sense, there were multiple examples of proactivity shared in that call alone. Shame on them for not taking the time hightlight the awesome work of the field team by share some or any SQEs. Say what you want about Joni and Lance, while they had their faults and major issues they certainly took opportunities from the main stage to give credit where credit is due avd shout out the field team. Nancy does a way better job celebrating and highlighting the work of the MSL team than any other FMLT member. Not only does the FMLT not do the MSLs justice they are part of the reason why the MED role is suffering from - WTF are they doing syndrome- by everyone else becauce the FMLT is too busy highlight their on smelly hot manure of "work" instead of taking time to share some highlights of the work the MEDs do, along with the severe lack of accountability the R. MED heads dont hold to their direct reports to, are the reasons why they are failing can't blame them alone. If your management doesn't hold you to any standard why the fuck would you bother working hard especially if you just get an invite to the Pinnacle trip for just breathing and pretend like you lead an ecosystem but couldn't give two shits about an actual account plan and you need the MSLs to develop your strategies. There is a MED in the PNW that I don't even know what rock we found her under she certainly had no fucking clue what's she's doing, but she's not alone there are MEDs here for 3 years and still act the same way. Bring back the MCL role and accountability. Instead of continously trying to measure the work MSLs do take a minute to figure out what everyone else is doing and measure at least ONE thing thatvthe MEDs and hold them to it. I hope Alexander brings in someone from the outside to take out the trash at FMLT. One can only hope.

 

[anonymous]

I agree. Look at what we have accomplished over the years - holding the mirror to the poor FMT leadership. Lacking any employee surveys and a toothless employee HR/D&I, through Cafepharma we have provided helpful feedback to Medical leadership.

Some like Nancy have used the feedback to make improvements, while others like Cathy just miss the mark.

case in point, Cathy sends us vague email updates/zoom soliloquies on her activity (or the lack thereof).

CS is as useless as a spare tire on an unicycle. Hopefully we remove this lazy, spineless, festering cancer before she metastasizes further

+1000000000000

 

[anonymous]

I agree. Look at what we have accomplished over the years - holding the mirror to the poor FMT leadership. Lacking any employee surveys and a toothless employee HR/D&I, through Cafepharma we have provided helpful feedback to Medical leadership.

Some like Nancy have used the feedback to make improvements, while others like Cathy just miss the mark.

case in point, Cathy sends us vague email updates/zoom soliloquies on her activity (or the lack thereof).

CS is as useless as a spare tire on an unicycle. Hopefully we remove this lazy, spineless, festering cancer before she metastasizes further

Pretty sure she is just being her authentic self. Incompetent and unaccountable.

 

[anonymous]

Nancy is a great comparison for Cathy.

1) Nancy has a longer experience training/practicing medicine, Cathy stopped 30 years ago with no additional degrees since a third-grade PharmD.

2) Nancy has a long tenure of growing in multiple companies. Cathy has latched on to Genentech tits for eternity

there’s a reason why Cathy is incompetent. Probably more incompetent than BK and PH. It’s not because shes a female leader. No, it’s because she never grew and just latched on until no other FMT leaders were left behind.

Just like Wile E Cayote, Cathy just ran off a cliff chasing this role. Will she drag Nancy Yao and the rest of the FMT with her?

 

[anonymous]

Completely agree Cathy needs to retire! But so does Robert! You can tell they both aren’t into it. Move over and let some new blood take over. If we are really honest this FMT accomplished nothing since Joni’s been gone. A swirl of promises, word speak and confusion. About 70% of the MSLs are competent and about 60% of FDs and MEDs but there is no coaching just keep the conference calls moving. Commercial team isn’t perfect but they know FMT is messed up. Theresa please grab the reigns and fix this ship.

 

[anonymous]

Cathy - stop sending garbage confusing emails. What was the goals email are you writing these on the throne and not even reading what you write. It's just as confusing as what comes out of your mouth.

 

[anonymous]

On a different note I was just told by my manager that there is going to be limited exUS congress attendance and will likely decrease MSL support. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ALL THE TLLs get to go to these exUS congresses with no scrutiny and limitations to this teams attendance. What do they even do, every other customer facing role has to enter engagements and insights into Veeva but they group doesnt how is that ICX?? The days of TLL team special treatment needs to come to an end. This is complete BS, it just tells me that this company values them more than field medical esp when we can make real impact with these KOLs and discuss topics that actually matter to them not just wine and dine them. Someone help make sense of this!

Nancy apparently this direction is coming from you so why are you not asking why every TLL goes to an insane amount of exUS meetings ($$$$$$$$) but do not have a guidance document on limiting attendance and they can go just to support hcp engagement alone but we need to jump through hoops of fire, walk on a bed of nails, climb a mountain possibly 2 and then of course support hcp engagements and then MAYBE we will considered to support. This is horse shit and the stuff that frustrates the shit out of us MSLs but WE can't say this in a feedback virtual meeting without getting a scarlet lettered engraved on our chests. All of these feedback sessions feels like you want to just check a no box and ensure a good score on a survey and a bunch of lipservice.

 

[anonymous]

Cathy - stop sending garbage confusing emails. What was the goals email are you writing these on the throne and not even reading what you write. It's just as confusing as what comes out of your mouth.

Cathy, I'm concerned about the quality of the communications you're sending us.

1. You're not even bothering to fix the font in your emails. It's obvious that you're copy-pasting text from different sources.

2. Your writing is unclear, mediocre, and lazy. What does "with FMLT, deliver role clarity so that work is prioritized, and delivered with planned impact in alignment" even mean? you just copy/pasted phrases together.

Use simple language such as “On FMLT initiatives, make sure everyone knows their role so that work can be prioritized and delivered effectively. I will make sure that I don’t hog up the limelight, I will not be a barrier or a bully, and give everyone opportunities and not play favoritism” - see it makes more sense, no?

3. “learn how to work and synergize with MLT by identifying and gaining agreement on at least one shared goal”. You've been at Genentech for a long time. If you haven't learned how to work with MLT by now, when will you?

I'm not trying to be rude, but I think Cathy needs to hire a speech writer or editor to help her with her communications. It's important that our team is able to understand what she’s saying. It’s equally important for her as a leader to shut up and listen to those she leads.

 

[anonymous]

On a different note I was just told by my manager that there is going to be limited exUS congress attendance and will likely decrease MSL support. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ALL THE TLLs get to go to these exUS congresses with no scrutiny and limitations to this teams attendance. What do they even do, every other customer facing role has to enter engagements and insights into Veeva but they group doesnt how is that ICX?? The days of TLL team special treatment needs to come to an end. This is complete BS, it just tells me that this company values them more than field medical esp when we can make real impact with these KOLs and discuss topics that actually matter to them not just wine and dine them. Someone help make sense of this!

Nancy apparently this direction is coming from you so why are you not asking why every TLL goes to an insane amount of exUS meetings ($$$$$$$$) but do not have a guidance document on limiting attendance and they can go just to support hcp engagement alone but we need to jump through hoops of fire, walk on a bed of nails, climb a mountain possibly 2 and then of course support hcp engagements and then MAYBE we will considered to support. This is horse shit and the stuff that frustrates the shit out of us MSLs but WE can't say this in a feedback virtual meeting without getting a scarlet lettered engraved on our chests. All of these feedback sessions feels like you want to just check a no box and ensure a good score on a survey and a bunch of lipservice.

How do we know that it’s Nancy?

How are we sure that it’s not the bumbling Cathy failing to lead Field medical?

 

[anonymous]

What’s next …. Another Vegas meeting to tell people what is and isn’t their role and what’s compliant and what’s not. JF and RS basically gave USMA herpes and it will take months and months before we are rid of the warts they created. Get yourself ready for a dose of mind numbing anti-dumbass therapy. Can’t wait!

 

[anonymous]

Nothing will ruin employee morale faster than a good employee watching a bad employee not be held accountable and/rewarded for bad or sub par behavior.

Nothing will ruin a team dynamic faster than a manager not standing up for a direct report or listening to feedback.

Accountability. Loyalty. Integrity.
That’s leadership.

CS HAS NO CLUE, it’s terrible to watch. Alexander clean house and place leaders that inspire & care.

 

[anonymous]

Get rid of more than CS. JL, HP, and LS would be a good start.

 

[anonymous]

Get rid of more than CS. JL, HP, and LS would be a good start.

Dear leadership

by CS we mean Cathy Garrulous Stark, in case you were wondering.

 

[anonymous]

How do we know that it’s Nancy?

How are we sure that it’s not the bumbling Cathy failing to lead Field medical?

Nancy rules but creating fear, if you inject truth serum into any person in the network they would absolutely agree otherwise no one will say anything because we are all scared to say anything. If you don't agree with her you will know that is the end of her thinking you are intelligent. She doesn't believe in her people's capabilities. By reading the threads I really doubt she's any better than Cathy. She deserves to be at Gilead the way she leads is fitting with their culture.