Email about getting doctors to write Medicaid for Onglyza is leaked

[Anonymous]

You have silent applause because there are no ethics in what the email said, the lobby effort (which is legal) was deliberately deceitful as it was to be executed. Go back and read it again. Pharma is very different from other industries on two points. 1. The ultimate buyer ( patient) really does not decide on the therapy, they depend on their doctor. Maybe you are different, but most patients do not decide what drug they will buy. 2. The U. S. taxpayer funds the purchase of almost 60% of all pharma products, us the taxpayer.

Therefore it is imperative for there to be as much transparency as possible. And motive/ethic matters, even if an act is legal. That has been the mantra of BMS leadership since the Boston Investigation. Do the right thing. Public image and perception matters, and the public image of this tactic stinks.

So I guess you can continue to defend the method, I wonder how you will feel when your RBD and legal use a similar method on you one day. Don't say you were not warned. They will do whatever is necessary for the business, you will not matter, but it will be legal!

Just wait until those that defend BMS are on the other side and see how fast the company fucks them. Their head will spin and they will be standing with their pants around their ankles asking, "what the fuck just happened?".

 

[Anonymous]

Just wait until those that defend BMS are on the other side and see how fast the company fucks them. Their head will spin and they will be standing with their pants around their ankles asking, "what the fuck just happened?".

It already happened, and you're both foolish to think it is different anywhere else. If you want different go work for a shop that has the actual owners name on the door and he or she is still running the organization. Publically traded companies, run by people who don't really have a personal stake in the game, all do the same thing. That's why it has devolved to its current state. Build a positive public image, create stockholder value,( ie: pay quarterly dividends and prop stock price up by buying back your own stock ) and lastly, or primarily protect your position and deflect criticism to milk it for as long as you can. The trouble with BMS is the worker bees have figured out what the upper management bees have been doing and the workers want to do the same.

 

[Anonymous]

It already happened, and you're both foolish to think it is different anywhere else. If you want different go work for a shop that has the actual owners name on the door and he or she is still running the organization. Publically traded companies, run by people who don't really have a personal stake in the game, all do the same thing. That's why it has devolved to its current state. Build a positive public image, create stockholder value,( ie: pay quarterly dividends and prop stock price up by buying back your own stock ) and lastly, or primarily protect your position and deflect criticism to milk it for as long as you can. The trouble with BMS is the worker bees have figured out what the upper management bees have been doing and the workers want to do the same.

We are doing the same thing. I work 1/2 days routinely, fuck em.

 

[Anonymous]

Hearkening back to our multiple years of compliance training, does this pass the front page of the WSJ test? I guess Pharmalot is not the WSJ, so this is ok.

Wonder if me as a rep could get away with an email like this?

No, you as a rep would be immediately fired.

 

[Anonymous]

What this email says is legal and sleazey.

 

[Anonymous]

Well Fritch is still in her job, so I guess the company's message to all, including the Medicaid P&T committees across this grand country is " Fuck you, we be as deceitful as we fuckng please and you can't do anything about it". Great corporate image and culture.

 

[Anonymous]

If you read the email, one has to ask, What kind of corporate culture has their legal team advising them how to get right to the line of illegality, but not cross it? Playing that close to the line, eventually you step over.

BMS needs to up it's integrity quotient, or the company will be in legal trouble again in pursuit of the almighty dollar. Why would our BOD and CEO allow this type of tactic?

And the writer of the email got promoted! Sends a message doesn't it?

 

[Anonymous]

What loser writes email and does company work at 10:44pm at night??

 

[Anonymous]

What loser writes email and does company work at 10:44pm at night??

The same type of loser who posts on C.P. at 10:39 p.m.

 

[Anonymous]

If you read the email, one has to ask, What kind of corporate culture has their legal team advising them how to get right to the line of illegality, but not cross it? Playing that close to the line, eventually you step over.

BMS needs to up it's integrity quotient, or the company will be in legal trouble again in pursuit of the almighty dollar. Why would our BOD and CEO allow this type of tactic?

And the writer of the email got promoted! Sends a message doesn't it?

It sends a pitiful message about this company's mindset and it shows the senior leadership as poor ethical examples. They can argue otherwise, but the email speaks for itself - sleazy.

 

[Anonymous]

This RBD will be fine, RBDs don't get fired unless they are screwing the bosses wife, and then only some. It looks like the lawyers thought through how to make it legal. Ethical? Apparently that doesn't matter if it's legal.

You mean like Drew the previous RBD who was also Lil Kim's hire?

 

[Anonymous]

Actually the story there was that he was trying to get to the his very sexy AMRO and she dropped the dime on him.

 

[Anonymous]

Actually the story there was that he was trying to get to the his very sexy AMRO and she dropped the dime on him.

He was a dweeb, but I guess he thought the "prestige" of being a RBD would bowl over his hot AMRO. A slight miscalculation.

 

[Anonymous]

Over 8K views of this post on JF....that is absolutely amazing. I never knew she was this damn popular....lol.

 

[Anonymous]

Over 8K views of this post on JF....that is absolutely amazing. I never knew she was this damn popular....lol.

She isn't. Everyone is checking in to find out any updates. If it was anyone else they would have been terminated. Especially if they were a white male.

 

[Anonymous]

She isn't. Everyone is checking in to find out any updates. If it was anyone else they would have been terminated. Especially if they were a white male.

Apparently what she did was legal and stupid.

 

[Anonymous]

She is a very pushy and arrogant person. It served her right!

 

[Anonymous]

She is a very pushy and arrogant person. It served her right!

Just think about the people she hired during her tenure.

 

[Anonymous]

I showed this email to my 11th grade honor student daughter. She could not believe how stupid it was, legal or not. Said it makes BMS look sleazy. From the mouths of babes! And yet our senior management keeps this person? Strange.

 

[Anonymous]

Wow, Jennifer Fritch now works in Oncology with us. Did not know she was like this - they brought her in saying she was a successful RBD and didn't even have to interview for the job. There were other people who were much more qualified for her new position but they brought her in anyway. She is not trusted and is so arrogant she makes decisions without knowing the consequences. What does that say about BMS leadership?