Electric Vehicle

You are correct when you say Wheels does not pay for gasoline. Wheels is paid a monthly lease fee for the automobile. I did a rotation at another leasing company. The lease is based on vehicle price, estimated depreciation, and includes the cost of a set of brake pads and tires, since most drug companies keep vehicles between 60,000 and 80,000 miles.
The actual depreciation amount may surprise you. It did me. My last fleet car had a sticker price of a little over $26000. Wheels paid 20,800. The offered price to me was $15,100. I thought $5700 in depreciation for a 3 year old car with 79000 miles on it was rather light. My current car will be replaced in another year. Wonder what that will go for. Of course, these are both gasoline powered vehicles.
If you are curious, you can check for yourself. Log in to Wheels website. You can find registration and title copied online. If you know what the sales tax is on new cars in your state, you can see the tax paid on the title. Do the math, you can figure what Wheels paid.
$5700 depreciation my ass. Since you were charged $140 per month for 36 months, or $5040, the net cost of depreciation was only about $660.
 




Wheels does not eat the cost of gasoline. That is the main impact to the bottom line. A conservative estimate of gasoline cost would be 10 fill ups per month at around $60 for a total of $600. Electricity is much cheaper. You’re welcome.

you’re not good at math, I’m not welcome for anything. It is $0.21/kwh if I exclusively charge at my house. 0.21 x 82kwh= $17.22 for a full charge (Public chargers coats 0.45/kWh or more). My car states I am getting 2.2 miles per kWh, which checks out based upon the current range im getting. 9.5 cents per mile.

I was getting 40 mpg on my rav4. Gas is 3.30 here. 8.2 cents per mile.

Not only is gasoline cheaper, charging can cost more than TWICE as much when I have to use a public charger.

now, you’re welcome
 




you’re not good at math, I’m not welcome for anything. It is $0.21/kwh if I exclusively charge at my house. 0.21 x 82kwh= $17.22 for a full charge (Public chargers coats 0.45/kWh or more). My car states I am getting 2.2 miles per kWh, which checks out based upon the current range im getting. 9.5 cents per mile.

I was getting 40 mpg on my rav4. Gas is 3.30 here. 8.2 cents per mile.

Well stated. Data is now coming out talking about the true cost to operate EV's. That's just the tip of the iceberg. First, EV's weigh almost a ton more than their gasoline counterparts, increasing the severity and risk of injury to cars or pedestrians they may hit. The extra weight puts increased stress and wear on roads, bridges, and parking decks. Their tires put out 3x the pollution of their lighter gasoline counterparts. We will need to build bigger power grids to handle the strain, especially in sweltering weather like we are seeing in the southwest. Batteries will need to be replaced, and they can't just be thrown into the trash. There are high costs going to be incurred to handle to dispose of recycle them. They will leach toxic metals, so special garbage dumps will need to be built. These are just a few of the long term costs no one thinks about. More taxes, increases in insurance premiums.

Not only is gasoline cheaper, charging can cost more than TWICE as much when I have to use a public charger.

now, you’re welcome
 








you’re not good at math, I’m not welcome for anything. It is $0.21/kwh if I exclusively charge at my house. 0.21 x 82kwh= $17.22 for a full charge (Public chargers coats 0.45/kWh or more). My car states I am getting 2.2 miles per kWh, which checks out based upon the current range im getting. 9.5 cents per mile.

I was getting 40 mpg on my rav4. Gas is 3.30 here. 8.2 cents per mile.

Not only is gasoline cheaper, charging can cost more than TWICE as much when I have to use a public charger.

now, you’re welcome


Your gas is too cheap. That’s your problem. Gas needs to be 10 bucks per gallon to make the math work out. You should not expect gas to remain at such cheap prices.
 




Thanks for the unnecessary analysis. AZ pays Wheels more for EV’s than gas cars. Simple fact stated by AZ fleet lady many times.



EaQUOTE="anonymous, post: 6793785"]you’re not good at math, I’m not welcome for anything. It is $0.21/kwh if I exclusively charge at my house. 0.21 x 82kwh= $17.22 for a full charge (Public chargers coats 0.45/kWh or more). My car states I am getting 2.2 miles per kWh, which checks out based upon the current range im getting. 9.5 cents per mile.

I was getting 40 mpg on my rav4. Gas is 3.30 here. 8.2 cents per mile.

Not only is gasoline cheaper, charging can cost more than TWICE as much when I have to use a public charger.

now, you’re welcome[/QUOTE]
 




Your gas is too cheap. That’s your problem. Gas needs to be 10 bucks per gallon to make the math work out. You should not expect gas to remain at such cheap prices.

You should not expect electricity to remain at such cheap prices. In fact electricity has gone up more in the last 3 years than gasoline, and demand is on the rise :))
 




Well stated. Data is now coming out talking about the true cost to operate EV's. That's just the tip of the iceberg. First, EV's weigh almost a ton more than their gasoline counterparts, increasing the severity and risk of injury to cars or pedestrians they may hit. The extra weight puts increased stress and wear on roads, bridges, and parking decks. Their tires put out 3x the pollution of their lighter gasoline counterparts. We will need to build bigger power grids to handle the strain, especially in sweltering weather like we are seeing in the southwest. Batteries will need to be replaced, and they can't just be thrown into the trash. There are high costs going to be incurred to handle to dispose of recycle them. They will leach toxic metals, so special garbage dumps will need to be built. These are just a few of the long term costs no one thinks about. More taxes, increases in insurance premiums.
 








Well stated. Data is now coming out talking about the true cost to operate EV's. That's just the tip of the iceberg. First, EV's weigh almost a ton more than their gasoline counterparts, increasing the severity and risk of injury to cars or pedestrians they may hit. The extra weight puts increased stress and wear on roads, bridges, and parking decks. Their tires put out 3x the pollution of their lighter gasoline counterparts. We will need to build bigger power grids to handle the strain, especially in sweltering weather like we are seeing in the southwest. Batteries will need to be replaced, and they can't just be thrown into the trash. There are high costs going to be incurred to handle to dispose of recycle them. They will leach toxic metals, so special garbage dumps will need to be built. These are just a few of the long term costs no one thinks about. More taxes, increases in insurance premiums.

They already dump these batteries in the Mexico desert. Everything surrounding this area us dead!
 
















Man, I'd rather take a shower at Penn State than drive an EV.
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Dear Climate Change Denier: Why do you ignore the facts - - -
Scientists are worried that an El Niño–prolonged ocean heat-up off the coast of England and Ireland will result in massive death tolls for sea life, along with other terrible outcomes. That’s because temperatures in the North Sea are already 5 degrees above normal, according to the Guardian. As conditions mount for continued ocean warming, the experts fear that sea life could be killed off like forest dwellers are destroyed during wildfires.
It’s all part of the fallout from an overheating planet.
As the AZ family, let's support each other in green initiatives!!