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You must be trolling or are new to Pfizer.
October more than likely
That gives the necessary 60 WARN notice enough time to roll into December.
January is when the severance starts and the new organization goes into effect.

After going thru about 10 of these of you get to know the rhythm.
 




anonymous said:
You must be trolling or are new to Pfizer.
October more than likely
That gives the necessary 60 WARN notice enough time to roll into December.
January is when the severance starts and the new organization goes into effect.

After going thru about 10 of these of you get to know the rhythm.
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Yep that sounds about right, I played that Russian roulette game about 7-8 times, finally the gun PFIRED and the timing was perfect, like living a healthy life til 90 and then waking up dead. Good Luck !
 




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Yep that sounds about right, I played that Russian roulette game about 7-8 times, finally the gun PFIRED and the timing was perfect, like living a healthy life til 90 and then waking up dead. Good Luck !
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Same here. Got laid off on my projected retirement date with two years severance! Good luck to all those needing to stay. Otherwise start looking…they may announce sooner in the hopes many will bail early to blunt the severance payouts..
 




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Same here. Got laid off on my projected retirement date with two years severance! Good luck to all those needing to stay. Otherwise start looking…they may announce sooner in the hopes many will bail early to blunt the severance payouts..
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so you were laid off from Pfizer...why are you spending your time on Pfizer CafePharma? Weird
 








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When, and how do they decide this, and when do you think we will find out
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It gets to the point where you just don't give a shit anymore. It wasn't always this way. You started off at Arrowhead with hopes and dreams, all fired up, ready to be a VP someday and set the world on fire. Sold the piece of shit college car for $700 and stepped into a company car. It seemed like a Bugatti. Free gas, restaurant gift cards to eat off of for months. Living the dream. Your friends are blown away that the gas is free in your Red "Ricky Burch" Ford Taurus. Pratt division baby. Roll Tide.

Then the first round of layoffs hit about a year and a half later and you were horrified. The boss who hired you got let go 2 or 3 layoffs after that or you got put on a different team. Not so idealistic anymore. Shaken up by multiple layoff cycles in less than 8 years, but motivated still and resilient. "I got this"

After your 9th or 10th set of layoffs, you've been actively hopping around the company for awhile, networking, staying in "safer" divisions. You've dodged LOE's, had a promotion or 2, if you were lucky you were able to relocate and get the company to buy your house. That sets you up for a secure future more than anything if you were able to do it. Even more if you still live in it with your first spouse.

Eventually, you start to realize your time is up. Getting paid a king's ransom to sit at home for a year and a half. You've survived this long, but the idea of getting another job is horrifying, but there is no where else in the company to run to. After almost 30 years you know of nothing else.

Not going to get to that retirement after all. It starts to settle in after awhile that you are not going to survive this one. The end is nigh. You can see it coming. You can feel it. You just hope it ends soon.....
 








one thing for certain is that the downsizings are a constant. I know reps that have tried to outsmart the system and get to a spot that they think is safe, only to be cut. I also know reps who landed more fulfilling positions after getting cut. For those that haven’t had the experience of having to fear for your job, those are the reps who are the most anxious now. There is nothing you can do about it now. Either wait to see if you keep your job, wait for the severance, or look for another job. There is no such thing as job security.
 




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It gets to the point where you just don't give a shit anymore. It wasn't always this way. You started off at Arrowhead with hopes and dreams, all fired up, ready to be a VP someday and set the world on fire. Sold the piece of shit college car for $700 and stepped into a company car. It seemed like a Bugatti. Free gas, restaurant gift cards to eat off of for months. Living the dream. Your friends are blown away that the gas is free in your Red "Ricky Burch" Ford Taurus. Pratt division baby. Roll Tide.

Then the first round of layoffs hit about a year and a half later and you were horrified. The boss who hired you got let go 2 or 3 layoffs after that or you got put on a different team. Not so idealistic anymore. Shaken up by multiple layoff cycles in less than 8 years, but motivated still and resilient. "I got this"

After your 9th or 10th set of layoffs, you've been actively hopping around the company for awhile, networking, staying in "safer" divisions. You've dodged LOE's, had a promotion or 2, if you were lucky you were able to relocate and get the company to buy your house. That sets you up for a secure future more than anything if you were able to do it. Even more if you still live in it with your first spouse.

Eventually, you start to realize your time is up. Getting paid a king's ransom to sit at home for a year and a half. You've survived this long, but the idea of getting another job is horrifying, but there is no where else in the company to run to. After almost 30 years you know of nothing else.

Not going to get to that retirement after all. It starts to settle in after awhile that you are not going to survive this one. The end is nigh. You can see it coming. You can feel it. You just hope it ends soon.....
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Been there and done that. It’s awful. My advice, in retrospect, is to invest in yourself right now. Set some short term goals like exercising, losing 10 lbs, getting resume and LinkedIn in perfect shape, investigate other career options and so forth. There is life after PFE, but right now you can’t see it. It sucks being on hold, be but be thankful for what you’ve had and got. Being paralyzed with fear and anxiety is no way to live.
 




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Been there and done that. It’s awful. My advice, in retrospect, is to invest in yourself right now. Set some short term goals like exercising, losing 10 lbs, getting resume and LinkedIn in perfect shape, investigate other career options and so forth. There is life after PFE, but right now you can’t see it. It sucks being on hold, be but be thankful for what you’ve had and got. Being paralyzed with fear and anxiety is no way to live.
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This is great advice. I have also been in your shoes. it is terrible.
Get caught up on all medical, dental and eye care needs while you know that you have insurance coverage. Review your investments with a professional. Keep in mind that any paid time off that you have accrued and not used will be paid to you, if you are severed.
You will receive the same severance package, regardless of your call activity.
So, do your job but don't kill yourself.
I think that you know- Pfizer does not have respect for people - they do not care about you. When you leave, you will be forgotten by them. ( your customers will remember you).
So, begin to brace yourself for this. Even if your are retained, it will be a difficult culture.
 




anonymous said:
This is great advice. I have also been in your shoes. it is terrible.
Get caught up on all medical, dental and eye care needs while you know that you have insurance coverage. Review your investments with a professional. Keep in mind that any paid time off that you have accrued and not used will be paid to you, if you are severed.
You will receive the same severance package, regardless of your call activity.
So, do your job but don't kill yourself.
I think that you know- Pfizer does not have respect for people - they do not care about you. When you leave, you will be forgotten by them. ( your customers will remember you).
So, begin to brace yourself for this. Even if your are retained, it will be a difficult culture.
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Been through a lot of these and TRUST me on this: it will be way worse for the people who do not get a severance package. The shit they are talking about- being constantly hardwired to customers with apps, everything monitored, you think VCC's were bad try always being in a downlink with the company and having everything scripted. These people developing this are ultimate control freaks. Technology has nothing to do with it. Every appointment or interaction will be shared and monitored
 




anonymous said:
Been through a lot of these and TRUST me on this: it will be way worse for the people who do not get a severance package. The shit they are talking about- being constantly hardwired to customers with apps, everything monitored, you think VCC's were bad try always being in a downlink with the company and having everything scripted. These people developing this are ultimate control freaks. Technology has nothing to do with it. Every appointment or interaction will be shared and monitored
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Some of the best talent will leave in the next six months…it always happens; some now and even more within a few months of the “reorg” aka culling the herd.
 












anonymous said:
Been through a lot of these and TRUST me on this: it will be way worse for the people who do not get a severance package. The shit they are talking about- being constantly hardwired to customers with apps, everything monitored, you think VCC's were bad try always being in a downlink with the company and having everything scripted. These people developing this are ultimate control freaks. Technology has nothing to do with it. Every appointment or interaction will be shared and monitored
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They'll keep the ones they know will suffer the worst. They don't want to pay them to leave. And they'll let go who wants to stay. They enjoy this.
 












anonymous said:
It gets to the point where you just don't give a shit anymore. It wasn't always this way. You started off at Arrowhead with hopes and dreams, all fired up, ready to be a VP someday and set the world on fire. Sold the piece of shit college car for $700 and stepped into a company car. It seemed like a Bugatti. Free gas, restaurant gift cards to eat off of for months. Living the dream. Your friends are blown away that the gas is free in your Red "Ricky Burch" Ford Taurus. Pratt division baby. Roll Tide.

Then the first round of layoffs hit about a year and a half later and you were horrified. The boss who hired you got let go 2 or 3 layoffs after that or you got put on a different team. Not so idealistic anymore. Shaken up by multiple layoff cycles in less than 8 years, but motivated still and resilient. "I got this"

After your 9th or 10th set of layoffs, you've been actively hopping around the company for awhile, networking, staying in "safer" divisions. You've dodged LOE's, had a promotion or 2, if you were lucky you were able to relocate and get the company to buy your house. That sets you up for a secure future more than anything if you were able to do it. Even more if you still live in it with your first spouse.

Eventually, you start to realize your time is up. Getting paid a king's ransom to sit at home for a year and a half. You've survived this long, but the idea of getting another job is horrifying, but there is no where else in the company to run to. After almost 30 years you know of nothing else.

Not going to get to that retirement after all. It starts to settle in after awhile that you are not going to survive this one. The end is nigh. You can see it coming. You can feel it. You just hope it ends soon.....
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I’m sorry but this reads like someone who got a job, maybe busted their hump a lot but forgot to continually reinvent themselves and to take on new challenges. All this for 30 freaking years.

We’re on iPhone 12 and it hit the market for the first time in 2006. A rep or manager used to try to get by for 30 years with the 1.0 version of themselves.

It’s a metaphor but I speak from experience. There is so much more within and out of this company. You can do 30 years but not doing one thing the same way and in the same place. Learn to evolve and to put yourself where things are going vs standing where things were when the dust settles.
 




anonymous said:
I’m sorry but this reads like someone who got a job, maybe busted their hump a lot but forgot to continually reinvent themselves and to take on new challenges. All this for 30 freaking years.

We’re on iPhone 12 and it hit the market for the first time in 2006. A rep or manager used to try to get by for 30 years with the 1.0 version of themselves.

It’s a metaphor but I speak from experience. There is so much more within and out of this company. You can do 30 years but not doing one thing the same way and in the same place. Learn to evolve and to put yourself where things are going vs standing where things were when the dust settles.
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Translation: learn to kiss people's asses so you can get a job here that involves even less talent or hard work than a rep job requires. "Marketing" maybe? Even though doctors couldn't care less about marketing pieces. You could be a KAM but that job should belong to the screenwriters guild because almost everything they do is completely fabricated and made up. About 300 reps and 5 managers could take the whole portfolio of the company, report to one VP and a board of directors, and that's really all you need here. The numbers wouldn't change much.
 




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