You don't want to know. He was ten years ahead of what the current managers are like.
Do I dare report a major policy violation by my CTL?
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You don't want to know. He was ten years ahead of what the current managers are like.
This post is too funny. I guess there is nothing wrong with you coming here to post on CP. . . no, that's not a policy violation. WTF? Short of selling samples, buying groceries for his/her family with the company card or encouraging an off-label use without the customer bringing it up, what on earth could be a "major" policy violation? Let me guess, your CTL took a customer out to eat. Really, I have to know as this thread is such a joke.
BTW: you try and throw a manager under the bus and you will be history. Hope you have very, very deep pocket for any litigation.
Do NOT go to anyone in house, including the ohbudsman! I did and totally regret it. She ripped me apart, was never looking at my side! I didn't even want to deal with her, she was that awful. Anyway, learned the hard way and now as I look back I believe I had quite a case and plan to start looking for a lawyer. Write as much down as you can now! I have several notebooks(great therapy)!
Several instances with a few former Merck reps should prove the following departments are no good to express your concerns:
The Ethics Hotline - they will give you a few numbers to call, close the case, and probably bill Merck for work done as an independent outside vendor.
The Office of the Ombudsman.
Any of your HR Partners.
One manager was upset that the rep did not express his/her concerns through him/her. That was kind of funny and sad.
The Ethics Hotline - they will give you a few numbers to call, close the case, and probably bill Merck for work done as an independent outside vendor.
The Office of the Ombudsman.
Any of your HR Partners.
One manager was upset that the rep did not express his/her concerns through him/her. That was kind of funny and sad.
I find it hard to believe that any bad employee, at any level, would ever be protected. The company would have to looking to implode. To keep people in positions where they are either incompetent or harmful by breaking policy or by their behavior is ridiculous. Why would good employees who rightfully stand up or themselves ever be punished?
BTW: Get the state involved and see manager go Bye Bye real quick. What litigation? Merck will turn the other way real quick. Maybe if it's production, get OSHA involved.
LOL, you really think the world is fair and just? I have two friends that tried this. One was actually hit across the face by her manager with an object and insulted, screamed at and abused in public. She filed a complaint with the company and all of the above including getting a lawyer. Guess what? She was history pretty damn quick - out due to poor performance. Lawyers do not do this for free you know and her case dragged on and on and on and on until she had no more money in her savings. Still, she really believed and so did her attorney that she had a good case. She took out a loan. Two years went by and the "boss" was finally "downsized". The company restructured and my friend ran out of money. Now, that is how it works in the real world. The EEOC's investigation was closed (no idea why you think OSHA would give a shit). The company is still in business and my friend is still out of work and most likely blacklisted because it really is a very small world.
Look what all that time, misery, and money cost her.....I'll bet if she had it to do over again...
Why would you report that to the company and not police? Through the police, it's the state vs XXXXXXX. A civil attorney does not take money up front. They will get 25-33% of the settlement after expenses. If the person went to the police, there would have been a report made. That is the beginning of the paper trail. The state would handle the criminal portion and a private attorney would handle the civil part of things. Without the initial police report it's a uphill battle.
It's like if you get into a car accident and the other driver states he would like to handle it without the insurance company getting involved. You still need the police report made at the time of the accident. It does not mean you will hand it to the insurance company, you need it for protection. If the person does not pay you for the damages, you must go to the police department and get a self written police report and it does not carry much weight. It becomes an issue of he said, she said.
Also you can tape a conversation with your manager and that would be 100% allowed in civil law. 50-50 chance for criminal (depend on the judge). Phone conversations are a different story.
OSHA is the biggest pain in the nuts known to man. If you really want to screw a company call them. If you are in manufacturing and it's an unsafe environment, take pictures with your phone and call them. They are a bunch of obsessive compulsive people. They look for anything and everything. 10k for extension cords on the floor, 25k for tanks that are not chained up. God forbid they call they USDA if they see things out of the ordinary. They are worse than OSHA. I think the USDA fined SP 500 million 10 years ago. They are like the IRS on steroids. They love making sure paperwork is in perfect order also.
A police report would have helped but you are wrong regarding a civil attorney. They absolutely work on an hourly basis. The days of winning some big million dollar wrongful whatever suit and signing away a percentage are long gone. No attorney has that kind of time or free resources especially for such an unlikely case. Only wrongful death or imprisonment get this kind of "credit" granted. I have a great deal of experience in matters such as these. You absolutely cannot tape a conversation in many states without both parties being aware of the recording. To do so, is a federal offense. Sorry.
Civil attorneys do not work hourly, the ones that do are scam artists. Call any respectable firm, even cheesy team law. There is more money by taking 25-33% of the payout than hourly. If there is no case they just will not take it. The government can not tap your phones or other communications without consent from a judge because they are considered third party representation. Big difference between government and a person. Please run a google search and you will understand. This might help you:
If the person recording the conversation is part of the coversation it is not illegal. If the person talking to you gives the person who is recording permission to record the conversation then it is also not illegal. But if the coversation is recorded by a third party without anyone present's consent, then is it is illegal as long it is not in a public place. Hope this makes sense?
Same for emails also. I cannot hack into your account and expect it to be legal. If you email me and it states something illegal, then it can be used as evidence within a criminal or civil case when turned over to the civil attorney and police.
There is always confusion on this because of the CSI TV shows.
Hope it helps
Civil attorneys do not work hourly, the ones that do are scam artists. Call any respectable firm, even cheesy team law. There is more money by taking 25-33% of the payout than hourly. If there is no case they just will not take it. The government can not tap your phones or other communications without consent from a judge because they are considered third party representation. Big difference between government and a person. Please run a google search and you will understand. This might help you:
If the person recording the conversation is part of the coversation it is not illegal. If the person talking to you gives the person who is recording permission to record the conversation then it is also not illegal. But if the coversation is recorded by a third party without anyone present's consent, then is it is illegal as long it is not in a public place. Hope this makes sense?
Same for emails also. I cannot hack into your account and expect it to be legal. If you email me and it states something illegal, then it can be used as evidence within a criminal or civil case when turned over to the civil attorney and police.
There is always confusion on this because of the CSI TV shows.
Hope it helps
and believe it or not, it overrides Merck procedures that are put in place.
This was from a Merck manager or HR. Thank you too the person who corrected him. I will have the recorder on me monday.
I did do a google check.I agree, that post was so Pro Merck and not true. It seemed like he did not want people to know what there rights were. Typical Merck, put in lies and fear into people.
Went to HR about hostile work environment. Have attorney. No other communication in over a year. Worried about downsizing this year
Went to HR about hostile work environment. Have attorney. No other communication in over a year. Worried about downsizing this year
You're history...and you couldn't get any luckier.
You should have your lawyer push for an update. Find out what discovery process was done by Merck. They can not say it being handled within Merck because you have a right to know what they have discovered or not discovered.
Hello???? because its that Merck mentality some things Merck does to its employees is just lame and unethical! They act like little kiddies. Like a higher-up once said " I am amazed at what Merck lets in the door and even more amazed @ what/how they let OUT!!"