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Those with jobs are in same boat. Those without jobs don't care. If you have job with full benefits, you probably need to put back $20,000 just to brake even. If you make $45k bonus with Cadence plus base......then put back $20,000....ask yourself how Cadence compares to current job.

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Anonymous said:
Still here. DM says big money when launch. Is getting thumbs up from contacts in accounts. With a good job currently, the lack of Cadence benefits (401k, pension, stock, comp-car) on top of higher per month health plan, it's harder to choose. Love Cadence & ground floor & culture vs big pharma. Is anyone else in the same process???
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I feel bad because I keep saying that I am on board, but I may not be and I know of others that feel the same. More than likely when they get approval, they will be able to retain about 50% of the people they think they will have. Like you said, you have to factor everything in these days. What frightens many of us right now is no 401K (this is really bad and amounts to thousands of dollars), no company car (I know of a few people that are with other companies that utilize the fleet company and BARELY break even), and finally the budget for lunches etc. is extremely minimal - don't they realize that access is hrrible now and you need to do a lunch and breakfast everyday? Cleraly we don't know how well this drug will do and with these other issues it is a very diffiult decision. But in the end, everyne needs to look out for themselves, because no matter what anyone says - you are on your own and have to watch out for #1!
 






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I feel bad because I keep saying that I am on board, but I may not be and I know of others that feel the same. More than likely when they get approval, they will be able to retain about 50% of the people they think they will have. Like you said, you have to factor everything in these days. What frightens many of us right now is no 401K (this is really bad and amounts to thousands of dollars), no company car (I know of a few people that are with other companies that utilize the fleet company and BARELY break even), and finally the budget for lunches etc. is extremely minimal - don't they realize that access is hrrible now and you need to do a lunch and breakfast everyday? Cleraly we don't know how well this drug will do and with these other issues it is a very diffiult decision. But in the end, everyne needs to look out for themselves, because no matter what anyone says - you are on your own and have to watch out for #1!
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Hey.. STAY WHERE YOU ARE! I am highly surprised you even made it thru the interview process. Someone that is this "risk adverse" should not go to a company like Cadence or many other small "pharma/biotechs" in todays environment. You are clearly not confident in your abilities... thus, the need for entitlements (lunch money, benefits, etc). Cadence is NOT Johnson & Johnson/ Sanofi Aventis... Your argument is not valid...
 






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Hey.. STAY WHERE YOU ARE! I am highly surprised you even made it thru the interview process. Someone that is this "risk adverse" should not go to a company like Cadence or many other small "pharma/biotechs" in todays environment. You are clearly not confident in your abilities... thus, the need for entitlements (lunch money, benefits, etc). Cadence is NOT Johnson & Johnson/ Sanofi Aventis... Your argument is not valid...
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Oh please! Save your comments! I agree with the previous poster. The risk would be worth it if you received other benefits such as stock options. A 45k bonus isn't that great anyomore and you have to go purchase a 20k+ car as well. Being in this industry is a "risk" in itself. Get off your preaching soapbox - at least the person was honest and has valid arguements and you certainly don't have to lash out at someone for making an honest comment. Clearly you are frustrated and your hostility isn't welcomed.
 






Anonymous said:
Hey.. STAY WHERE YOU ARE! I am highly surprised you even made it thru the interview process. Someone that is this "risk adverse" should not go to a company like Cadence or many other small "pharma/biotechs" in todays environment. You are clearly not confident in your abilities... thus, the need for entitlements (lunch money, benefits, etc). Cadence is NOT Johnson & Johnson/ Sanofi Aventis... Your argument is not valid...
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Not confident in your abilities? Buddy, you are way off base. The poster clearly has OPTIONS, which sounds like you don't have. Either you are one of the managers who has done absolutely nothing for about a year now and find it necessary to defend your position or you are one of the stereotypical blowhards that is all talk. So which is it? If you are going to knock someone for stating an honest comment, go ahead and critique yourself. The OP has very good comments and they are not alone in their thoughts. They have a couple choices: they can either stay in their current job or go to Cadence. This is something you probably don't have. Stop being a jerk
 






Anonymous said:
Hey.. STAY WHERE YOU ARE! I am highly surprised you even made it thru the interview process. Someone that is this "risk adverse" should not go to a company like Cadence or many other small "pharma/biotechs" in todays environment. You are clearly not confident in your abilities... thus, the need for entitlements (lunch money, benefits, etc). Cadence is NOT Johnson & Johnson/ Sanofi Aventis... Your argument is not valid...
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LOL you sound like a MORON. You also sound like you jump into things with no paddle or thought.
 


















The pay is Biotech. Hospital/Institution Sales, no samples or computer signatures. Getting people from being hooked on oxycontin post surgeries.......Not Big Pharma what would you call it?
 












First of all it's IV acetaminophen. Very , very dificult to do or every major pharma company would have done it. Manufacturing process not easy. I agree it's a stretch to be called Biotech but that's what gets investors involved and wall street happy. The drug when and if it gets approved should do very well. Does what opiods/narcotics do to ease pain post many surgeries with no addictive qualities. Also very potent for adult/pediatric fever reducer. Good luck to all involved
 






What clinical studies are out there that show acetminophen pain relief comparable to a narcotic? Have sold in pain for 10 yrs, would be interested to see how tylenol and percocet or even vicodin can be compared without laughing...

Love the smoke and mirrors here - biotech, tylenol as good as narcs.....

Hilarious!
 






Percocet 10/650
Endo Pharmaceuticals lists Percocet 10/650 the second of two dosages that contains the maximum quantity of oxycodone hydrochloride. Percocet 10/650 contains 10 mg oxycodone hydrochloride and 650 mg of acetaminophen. In Percocet 10/650, 10 mg oxycodone hydrochloride is equivalent to 8.9637 mg of pure oxycodone. This dosage also has the highest quantity of acetaminophen, making it the strongest form of Percocet available
 












so - youre taking out the hydrocodone, or oxycodone and expecting similar pain relief with just acetaminophen?

could see a benefit with fever reduction, but not pain - any push back with potential toxicity issues with a higher tylenol dose?
 






No one is comparing it you r*****. Its the dependency factor of America and its doped out patients post surgeries. How about you look at that jacka$$. We have become a country of dope addicts and if a patient can get a surgery and leave pain free and unaddicted to a narcotic that is what Cadence is going after....and so are the Doctors who prescribe the meds. If the drug does what the clinicals show it does then many narcotics will go bye bye for new starts.
 






Anonymous said:
What clinical studies are out there that show acetminophen pain relief comparable to a narcotic? Have sold in pain for 10 yrs, would be interested to see how tylenol and percocet or even vicodin can be compared without laughing...

Love the smoke and mirrors here - biotech, tylenol as good as narcs.....

Hilarious!
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Who ever posted above is an absolute MORON! Hey idiot - physicians don't want to prescribe more narcotics due to addiction and side effects. IV Tylenol is meant to lower the usage of Narcotics. No comparison is needed. If anything is a complete laugh is your ridiculous comments!
 






Lowering the dose I can understand, but you can replace narcotic pain relief for a multitude of reasons that I won't go to here. However, addiction is much less of an issue in the hospital setting in an acute recovery disease state scenario than the risk of addiction when attempting to manage chronic pain. This product is strictly an acute pain relief agent, so I would want to be selling the acute pain relief benefits of which I question relative to a narcotic.

Peter Coyote
 






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Lowering the dose I can understand, but you can replace narcotic pain relief for a multitude of reasons that I won't go to here. However, addiction is much less of an issue in the hospital setting in an acute recovery disease state scenario than the risk of addiction when attempting to manage chronic pain. This product is strictly an acute pain relief agent, so I would want to be selling the acute pain relief benefits of which I question relative to a narcotic.

Peter Coyote
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I agree with you, brother. Now let's go catch that pesky Roadrunner!

Wile E. Coyote
Acme Rocket Company
 






Anonymous said:
Lowering the dose I can understand, but you can replace narcotic pain relief for a multitude of reasons that I won't go to here. However, addiction is much less of an issue in the hospital setting in an acute recovery disease state scenario than the risk of addiction when attempting to manage chronic pain. This product is strictly an acute pain relief agent, so I would want to be selling the acute pain relief benefits of which I question relative to a narcotic.

Peter Coyote
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Finally - the only r*****s on here are the folks that think you can get docs to buy in that - hey here is this new tylenol, it will be just as good as your oxy, with less side effects. There are drugs out there already: less side effects, less addiction potential....heres the thing you are missing..docs in the hospital dont care! So yes - you do have to show some sort of pain relief comparison, do you think the docs are going to let their pts suffer because theyre scared of addiction? Theyre not rxing narcs for months - but days, make sure you launch into your big addiction message, and let us all know how that goes.

There ARE actually patients that NEED narcotics for acute post op pain - I hate to be the one to tell you, but acetaminephen wont come close to helping - at any dose or route.



Its clear you have ZERO experience selling pain in the acute setting, so pump the brakes before you respond. Biotech...thats funny
 






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