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Abbott to scrap health plans under Obamacare

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Anonymous said:
Sure. I guess your momsy was Condoleeza, too. That might explain it.
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No, my father was a plumber. He came from a very poor family, and managed to get his license. With hard work he started his own business, moved to a middle class suburb, and raised 4 kids that he was able to send to college. He met "Momsy" in this middle class suburb. She managed the business, first from home, then from the office as the business grew. "Momsy" was white.

My father was not exactly welcome with open arms in our town, but he earned a reputation for honesty, integrity, and excellent work. He joined the local chamber of commerce, sponsored and at times coached little league and soccer teams. He volunteered for all kinds of community events, and was often the first business owner to step in a start a collection for a family in need. When we were in high school, dad learned about every scholarship available. He became so good at that, with 4 kids to put through, that people started asking him for ideas for their kids. That led to him volunteering for a program that helped kids from poor families to get into college or trade schools. He still does that today.

He never complained, no matter how hard it was to get established. And he never allowed us or anyone else to use color or religion as an excuse. Or an entitlement.
 




Anonymous said:
No, my father was a plumber. He came from a very poor family, and managed to get his license. With hard work he started his own business, moved to a middle class suburb, and raised 4 kids that he was able to send to college. He met "Momsy" in this middle class suburb. She managed the business, first from home, then from the office as the business grew. "Momsy" was white.

My father was not exactly welcome with open arms in our town, but he earned a reputation for honesty, integrity, and excellent work. He joined the local chamber of commerce, sponsored and at times coached little league and soccer teams. He volunteered for all kinds of community events, and was often the first business owner to step in a start a collection for a family in need. When we were in high school, dad learned about every scholarship available. He became so good at that, with 4 kids to put through, that people started asking him for ideas for their kids. That led to him volunteering for a program that helped kids from poor families to get into college or trade schools. He still does that today.

He never complained, no matter how hard it was to get established. And he never allowed us or anyone else to use color or religion as an excuse. Or an entitlement.
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You must be very proud of your father. He has integrity, dignity and honor. He gives back to his community. I only wish there were more like him. He'd be shouted down at a liberal meeting if he gave a speech about his accomplishments.
 








Re: Abbott friends with Obama will keep Obamacare

Anonymous said:
(from Chicago Tribune)

The chief executive of Abbott Laboratories warned Tuesday that he expects more corporations to drop employee health care insurance as a result of the health care law and some of the taxes it levies over the next five years.

Miles White, an influential health care executive who has led the Lake County-based medical products giant for 15 years, said there are “clear incentives for companies to drop their health care plans and move people onto the exchanges,” referring to the new, online insurance marketplaces created under the Affordable Care Act where consumers can compare and purchase private health plans, often with the help of federal tax subsidies.

“I can tell you that the employees of Abbott or AbbVie (the pharmaceutical firm Abbott spun off in January) are going to be pretty unhappy about that, you know, if we did that,” he told members of the CFA Society of Chicago, an association of investment analysts, at a luncheon.
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Abbott is supposed to promote Obamacare. This is a good thing.
 








Anonymous said:
Projections are for 90MM to 100MM working Americans with employer provided Plans to loose those plans. Which is why the Democrats are talking about delaying the mandate until after the next election in order to avoid loosing. And why the Republicans are opposing a delay. Which confirms that this is all politics, and if we were smart we would vote out ALL incumbents regardless of party, and demand term limits for all elected officials. Like 2 terms max.

So when you add that to the 10MM working Americans who buy their own insurance and recently got whacked with massive cost increases, that's 110MM working Americans who will be forced to pay 3 to 5 times more for their healthcare than they did before.

For working families above the poverty line, the cost just for entry, in other words, not factoring in deductibles and co-pays, will be around $24,000 annually. Put another way, $30,000 to $35,000 will be needed to pay for health insurance, NOT including co-pays and deductibles. For most families that will be catastrophic.

People below the poverty line will be able to get Medicaid or Medicare, as they always have. But the taxpayer cost for those programs will dramatically increase, because more people will be forced into those programs by the Exchanges.

And the number of people uninsured, which the basic premise for Obamacare was to cover, will largely remain unchanged: those without the capacity or ability to seek out Obamacare, the homeless, the illegal aliens, etc, will go to emergency rooms and free clinics, as they always have; and the young and healthy who elect not to buy insurance on their own or through their employer will pay the paltry penalty, a few hundred dollars per year, rather than pay $12,000 to buy insurance.

So we are destroying the heath care system, driving costs through the roof, and all the while not achieving what the whole upheaval was supposed to do in the first place.

And that confirms why Government should stay out of the private sector, and should simply provide the guidelines for the private sector to compete.
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I really wish you would learn the difference between loose and lose. It really makes you look ignorant and you're probably a college grad. A screw is loose. Did you lose your quarter in the couch. Think it out.
 








I hope everyone that voted forothe total liar and manipulator gets the Obama care and enjoys it.
Ironic I don't see he and michelle signing up for it let alone congress. I say good enough for me its good enough for you Obuma.
 












Re: Abbott friends with Obama will keep Obamacare

Anonymous said:
I agree everybody should be proud of this achievement.[/QUOTE

Achievement.....LMAO

I think Putin is jealous of Obama's ability to deceive the masses.

Please explain what good he has done for anyone. What has he achieved? Lies? yes.

If turning the US in to the USSA is an achievement then CONGRATULATIONS!!
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Re: Abbott friends with Obama will keep Obamacare

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Anonymous said:
I agree everybody should be proud of this achievement.[/QUOTE

Achievement.....LMAO

I think Putin is jealous of Obama's ability to deceive the masses.

Please explain what good he has done for anyone. What has he achieved? Lies? yes.

If turning the US in to the USSA is an achievement then CONGRATULATIONS!!
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Well, he has expanded the power of the Executive branch by usurping Congress's budgetary and legislative control. By dictatorial decree he has ordered sweeping "climate change" policy, and is poised to do the same thing in "immigration reform". He has changed the dynamic in Middle Eastern politics, ceding to Iran the role of regional power. He "lead from behind" in allowing Islamo-factsist to topple friendly governments in Egypt and Libya, and is almost there in Syria. He has bowed to China, and all but conceded to them the role of global superpower. He has managed to grow unemployment to over 90MM Americans, and ensure that this is the new status quo. His economic and domestic policy has brought back inflation, which will explode annually for years to come. He has taken almost complete control of the news media, and now controls the message almost as totally as any great dictator. And by doing that, had managed to transform many of the very principles this great nation was founded on, individual freedom and responsibility, privacy, and the individual over the government, capitalism, and right to "liberty and the pursuit of happiness" all into things to be scorned. He has made us a hyphenated country, divided racially and economically, "have's vs have not's". He has redistributed wealth through Obamacare and taxes.

I'd say he has been one of the most successful at executing his agenda in our history, and has transformed this country, just as he promised, in ways that we are only just beginning to fathom.

The only problem is, his agenda would be more appropriate for an enemy of Western democracy and the US, not it's president.
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Re: Abbott friends with Obama will keep Obamacare

Anonymous said:
I agree more people receiving comprehensive healthcare is excellent.
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Except 10MM people lost their plans, which Barry had promised repeatedly they could keep. The same thing would have happened to 90MM more in 2014, but Barry, by dictatorial decree, circumvented a law Congress has passed, delaying that past the mid term elections.

Meanwhile, health insurance costs for everyone who is insured and did not lose their plan have increased by several thousand dollars annually.

And the truly uninsured remain largely uninsured.

So how is this a good thing?
 




Re: Abbott friends with Obama will keep Obamacare

Anonymous said:
Except 10MM people lost their plans, which Barry had promised repeatedly they could keep. The same thing would have happened to 90MM more in 2014, but Barry, by dictatorial decree, circumvented a law Congress has passed, delaying that past the mid term elections.

Meanwhile, health insurance costs for everyone who is insured and did not lose their plan have increased by several thousand dollars annually.

And the truly uninsured remain largely uninsured.

So how is this a good thing?
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Here is a list:
• New Health Insurance Marketplaces (AKA Exchanges) allow shoppers to compare Health Plans that include all new benefits, rights and protections.
• Cost assistance to individuals, families and small businesses through the marketplace.
• No annual or lifetime limits on healthcare.
• Insurance companies can't drop you when you are sick or for making a mistake on your application.
• You can't be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions. Learn More About Healthcare and Pre-existing Conditions.
• You have the right to quickly appeal any health insurance company decision.
• You have the right to get an easy-to-understand summary about a health plan’s benefits and coverage.
• Young Adults can stay on their parent's plan until 26.
• A large improvement to women's health services.
• Reforms to the healthcare industry to cut wasteful spending.
• Better care and protections for seniors.
• New preventative Services at no-out-of pocket costs.
• Essential health benefits like emergency care, hospitalization, prescription drugs, and maternity and newborn care must be included on all non-grandfathered plans at no out-of-pocket limit.
• You can't be charged more based on health status or gender.
• Plus many more benefits, rights and protections.
 




Nobody should ever have to lose their house to medical bills after losing their job. Medical costs are the single most common reason that people file bankruptcy. Nobody should have to go bankrupt because they got sick and didn't have medical insurance.
 




Re: Abbott friends with Obama will keep Obamacare

Anonymous said:
Here is a list:
• New Health Insurance Marketplaces (AKA Exchanges) allow shoppers to compare Health Plans that include all new benefits, rights and protections.
• Cost assistance to individuals, families and small businesses through the marketplace.
• No annual or lifetime limits on healthcare.
• Insurance companies can't drop you when you are sick or for making a mistake on your application.
• You can't be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions. Learn More About Healthcare and Pre-existing Conditions.
• You have the right to quickly appeal any health insurance company decision.
• You have the right to get an easy-to-understand summary about a health plan’s benefits and coverage.
• Young Adults can stay on their parent's plan until 26.
• A large improvement to women's health services.
• Reforms to the healthcare industry to cut wasteful spending.
• Better care and protections for seniors.
• New preventative Services at no-out-of pocket costs.
• Essential health benefits like emergency care, hospitalization, prescription drugs, and maternity and newborn care must be included on all non-grandfathered plans at no out-of-pocket limit.
• You can't be charged more based on health status or gender.
• Plus many more benefits, rights and protections.
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Were'd you get the list, whitehouse.gov? Or Acorn? This is the Obamacare fairytale that has been sold to the American public. You may want to try reading something other than the propaganda handed to you by government, or MSNBC, which is basically the same thing. News flash: it's not working, and 90mm working americans will soon be told what 10MM found out this year: your policy has been cancelled, and you have to buy one that costs 2X to 5X more.

The Obamacare "Marketplace" does is not working, incase you missed the news for the last few months. "Cost assistance" for most is Medicaid if you're under 55, and Medicare if you over. Average premiums for a family those that do not qualify for "assistance", i.e. annual income over $65,000, averages $2,000 per month ... with a $6,000 annual deductible. Around $1,000 per month for single people.

Put that in perspective: a family needs to pay $24,000 per year for insurance ... out of net income (meaning you have to earn $31,000 to have the $24,000 to pay for Obama mandated insurance ... stop scratching your head, I know you don't understand: unlike you, other people work and pay taxes). Suppose you're a family, husband and wife work and earn $75,000 annually, and neither employer provides healthcare because Obama made it too costly). Their net income is around $55,000. Half of that now has to go for just their healthcare premiums. Unlike you, this family does not qualify for free housing or food stamps. Take our $20,000 - $25,000 for housing and related costs. So it's Obamacare or food.

For those that still have employer provided insurance, their contribution cost is going up by 20 - 25% because the "goberment" has mandated what services all insurance plans must provide as a"minimum standard". Things such as "kids" up to 26 on parent's plan, coverage of pre-existing conditions, etc, costs for all insurance plans have increased over 20%. For everyone.

I'm sure you have no idea that insurance is a private industry, and as such businesses that provide insurance were able to create and design products to meet the needs of individual consumers. Like plans for the elderly that were tailored to there needs. Now the elderly are paying more for plans that must include birth control and maternity care.

And health care has always been available free or at low cost to those who can't afford it. That could be expanded at a fraction of the cost of 1 year of Obamacare.

Obamacare has created a mess, and so far has been a text book example of why you don't want what Obama and you want so badly: socialized healthcare. Just look at the website. Any small to medium size business can put up a working website. This has been a classic example of what the government produces: mis-managed, over budgeted products that don't meed consumer's needs, and could be done for more effectively if left to the private sector.
 




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