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I accepted one of the pain positions. After reading these posting. It makes me wonder if I should I have another contract with a lot lower base but a sucky launch product that probably will not do well.

Did you get s car allowance? What about vacation time and/or the week after Christmas off.

Many things were changed on the final offer compared to what was told on the first interview.


How much notice did you get on the ending of this contract?
 






Anonymous said:
I accepted one of the pain positions. After reading these posting. It makes me wonder if I should I have another contract with a lot lower base but a sucky launch product that probably will not do well.

Did you get s car allowance? What about vacation time and/or the week after Christmas off.

Many things were changed on the final offer compared to what was told on the first interview.


How much notice did you get on the ending of this contract?
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No car allowance, just 55cents/mile. 2 weeks vacation, did not get Xmas week off. And we got 3 weeks notice.
 






Anonymous said:
I don't mind so much that the contract has ended prematurely....let's face it the products aren't meeting their initial forecasts. It's the way they treated us that sucks....Why would they put us through all that DVT/PE training, endless conference calls, certification, contest bullshit, and have us start diabetes training when they knew....they KNEW...they we're letting us go?! That's what really sucks and shows they don't give a rats ass about people. They could have very easily let us go end-October and paid severance to the end of December. That would have been the humane thing to do.

I've always had a good work ethic, but I'm sure I'll be taking how I was treated on this contract (from Day 1) to my next position. It definitely will affect how much of myself I give to the next job/company.
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What products did this contract sell? The layoff does not make sense? They ended this contract and started a pain contract why?
 


















yes, in our area, out of 3 one was retained. I wonder what they used to base their decision on the ones they kept and ones that were told their territory had been "eliminated"?
 












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yes, in our area, out of 3 one was retained. I wonder what they used to base their decision on the ones they kept and ones that were told their territory had been "eliminated"?
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I want to say that if there were 2 f/t jnj reps plus contract in territory, the cso rep was cut. That is what happened in my state
 






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This is the yin/yang of contract sales.

On the one hand, Quintiles Management is tasked with providing "Human Resources" to the contract customer. Any claim that this is NOT DEHUMANIZING is a pure, unadulterated lie.
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Ya, ain't that the truth!

I was so fatigued by driving 1000 miles/week and the 'constructive discharge' tactics that were at play early on. They can make things up and lie. So much for ethics in the workplace.

Contract sales is just a means to make it easier for them to terminate employees. Companies are never serious about having you around otherwise they would hire you directly
 






I know it's not about performance, but I still can't wrap myself around the fact that so many bad Janssen reps were kept, and so many good Quintiles reps were let go. Just doesn't make good business sense.

I'm thinking about one Janssen rep in particular who was at the bottom of the ranking ALL YEAR LONG being paid at a much higher salary rep than a Quintiles rep who was out-performing him, ranked way above him ALL YEAR LONG.

I'm not saying this Quintiles rep necessarily needed to be rolled over to Janssen, but why keep the lousy Janssen rep and eliminate the excellent Quintiles rep??!!

Happy for the Q reps they kept, but some of those decisions didn't make sense either.
 






At Pfizer it was done this way:

"Calibration meetings with rbd, rm's and dbm's beginning of dec slotted reps. Then the rbd's met with ZS"

Probably the same method used here. Evidently your DM didn't like you and your RM didn't recognize your name.
 
























No one seems really upset about this contract ending. Did most people roll over to Janssen or were they placed on another Quintiles gig?! I keep wondering about the why, the who, the what if, and the what now. Anyone??
 






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No one seems really upset about this contract ending. Did most people roll over to Janssen or were they placed on another Quintiles gig?! I keep wondering about the why, the who, the what if, and the what now. Anyone??
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I heard 60 rolled over, 80 retained on contract, 200 "not included in the reorganization" including me. No point in asking questions, it happened and we have to move on.
 












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How did they decide who to retain? It wasn't performance; it wasn't geography. ?????
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It was based off of territory and really what potential your territory was rated as having. Well at least that is what I heard. Really some of the layoff made no sense! Some were lucky to get hired on by amarin, others are still looking. Quintiles really does not have a lot of contracts right now so you are just sitting around waiting! Or should I say looking for other options. It is bad not to have a job but the I will saw at least we are no longer waiting for the floor to drop! in some regional morale was very low!
 






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