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3 Vraylar Reps calling on same 50 providers

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Thank you Abbvie for forcing me to have a part time job since I run out of viable targets to see by Tuesday. Here in the North East there is so little access to providers, yet we need 3 bodies calling in the same 50 provider??? Who comes up with the bogus targets on our panels given over 50% of them that have been closed down to reps for ten plus years. But wait…now that Vraylar has the indication for aMDD, I’m sure all these family practice clinics will revamp their rep policies to allow us access. Territories with two reps are lucky and will likely have much more success because they will have better communication with each other, have less frustration battling to get into office and more likely to be on the same page with messaging needed with each provider.
 




































I work in Metabolics, it’s the format for the future. Big territories targeted calls no total dirt. No pods. It’s much better here than the other teams, Synthroid is 68 years old and we’re cash pay. So no managed care mess. RD is cool, Directors are sane people too. Jeff Vinson is great, Renee is a perfect leader. Feels like home. But it could change on a dime.
 




I love to have a ton of partners to plan and strategize and plan with! It's a rush! We are on the phone constantly in 3 way calls to plan our attacks on our providers. Then at the end of the day, we all meet for an hour debrief and go over the next days plan of attack. By then it's about 7 PM and we begin sending our emails to our managers to show how good we are coordinating with each. Some days we will meet for a 6AM Planning Breakfast where we will role play messaging to make sure we are a sharp as a tack.

Embrace this and you will have a better frame of mind. Long live the BIG V!
 




anonymous said:
I love to have a ton of partners to plan and strategize and plan with! It's a rush! We are on the phone constantly in 3 way calls to plan our attacks on our providers. Then at the end of the day, we all meet for an hour debrief and go over the next days plan of attack. By then it's about 7 PM and we begin sending our emails to our managers to show how good we are coordinating with each. Some days we will meet for a 6AM Planning Breakfast where we will role play messaging to make sure we are a sharp as a tack.

Embrace this and you will have a better frame of mind. Long live the BIG V!
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Our team is the best we meet for coffee or bagels or tea or muffins-sometime a full -on breakfast. Laugh -silly talk too- jokes, games ..fake a few call then off the yoga and the gym. get on a good sweat . Fake a few call then it is off to a lunch spot
 




anonymous said:
I love to have a ton of partners to plan and strategize and plan with! It's a rush! We are on the phone constantly in 3 way calls to plan our attacks on our providers. Then at the end of the day, we all meet for an hour debrief and go over the next days plan of attack. By then it's about 7 PM and we begin sending our emails to our managers to show how good we are coordinating with each. Some days we will meet for a 6AM Planning Breakfast where we will role play messaging to make sure we are a sharp as a tack.

Embrace this and you will have a better frame of mind. Long live the BIG V!
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Just start the car tomorrow with the garage door down…your partners will thank you.
 












I am enjoying the neutral weight gain message for Vraylar. I ask the doctor "did the Vraylar rep tell you that their atypical antipsychotic.is weight neutral?" Oh yes they did.
Then I get to show them your own data showing weight gain and the 20%+ akathesia rates. "Dr. Why do you think they have not shown you this data. Ask the Vraylar rep when you see them next I would love to hear why they are hiding the safety data from you and your patients.
Then I go to the sample closet take the Vraylar samples with me and thow them in the trash at the next gas station.
 








anonymous said:
I am enjoying the neutral weight gain message for Vraylar. I ask the doctor "did the Vraylar rep tell you that their atypical antipsychotic.is weight neutral?" Oh yes they did.
Then I get to show them your own data showing weight gain and the 20%+ akathesia rates. "Dr. Why do you think they have not shown you this data. Ask the Vraylar rep when you see them next I would love to hear why they are hiding the safety data from you and your patients.
Then I go to the sample closet take the Vraylar samples with me and thow them in the trash at the next gas station.
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‘Wow! Rexulti rep here. I’d o the exact same thing! What a coincidence! Are we not THE COOLEST reps ever!!!
 




insane said:
Thank you Abbvie for forcing me to have a part time job since I run out of viable targets to see by Tuesday. Here in the North East there is so little access to providers, yet we need 3 bodies calling in the same 50 provider??? Who comes up with the bogus targets on our panels given over 50% of them that have been closed down to reps for ten plus years. But wait…now that Vraylar has the indication for aMDD, I’m sure all these family practice clinics will revamp their rep policies to allow us access. Territories with two reps are lucky and will likely have much more success because they will have better communication with each other, have less frustration battling to get into office and more likely to be on the same page with messaging needed with each provider.
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Pfizer and Glaxo started this nonsense 20-25 years ago, and it did not work. Some idiot called it "share of voice", and nobody had anything to say after a while. Why wouldn't a doctor shut his doors? Wouldn't you? In a few years all offices will be closed to reps anyway, as large corporations buy clinics and their patients. As soon as that happens: An administrator locks out all reps, so doctors can focus on making more money for the clinic!
My primary care doc saw 2000 patients last year. He was told this year he has to see 2200 to make bonus. Do you think he will spend any time with reps? That would cost him money!!!
 




anonymous said:
Pfizer and Glaxo started this nonsense 20-25 years ago, and it did not work. Some idiot called it "share of voice", and nobody had anything to say after a while. Why wouldn't a doctor shut his doors? Wouldn't you? In a few years all offices will be closed to reps anyway, as large corporations buy clinics and their patients. As soon as that happens: An administrator locks out all reps, so doctors can focus on making more money for the clinic!
My primary care doc saw 2000 patients last year. He was told this year he has to see 2200 to make bonus. Do you think he will spend any time with reps? That would cost him money!!!
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If I was a rep, I would learn some epidemiology, math, and economics real fast. That and/or marketing.

Access and reimbursement, along with some DTC and HCP marketing are what generate profits. That and the science of new impactful treatments of course. The day of the traveling door to door salesperson is ending.

Doctors and their staff can buy their own Starbucks and Panera.
 




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