Why no universal personal responsibility?

http://www.ucdenver.edu/academics/c...nters/CYE/Publications/Documents/outcasts.pdf
Although counting the exact number of homeless children is difficult, a consensus is emerging among researchers. According to the National Coalition for the Homeless, 1.2 million children are homeless on any given night. Supporting this figure are estimates from the U.S. Department of Education that report almost 400,000 homeless children were served by the nation's public schools last year. Since more than half of all homeless children are under the age of 6 and not yet in school, a minimum of 800,000 children can be presumed to be homeless. On the basis of these data, the National Center on Family Homelessness
concludes that more than one million American children are homeless today.

Assuming those numbers are correct, that number is not that bad. No amount of government intervention can get that number to zero. Furthermore, no amount of government intervention can either make the parents of these children be productive members of society.

Even if these parents/children are homeless due to things not their fault, there are government programs begging people to sign up.

The problem with liberal ideology is that they want equal outcomes. In life, there are are winners and losers. Just like in sports. You could throw a trillion dollars this year at this child homeless problem, and the number will still be nowhere near zero.

If your care so much, do what you should do and volunteer time to solve this problem. Liberals never view charity/churches as a solution to problems. They always assume that the government is an extension of their family. You are free to believe that government is your father or spouse/lover. I don't.

Remember,the 73 million people under the age of 18 are in the US. That means 72 out of 73 million slept last night in a home, or 98.6%. Those are numbers we should be proud of.
 






+1 for the humor. nice try, but try again.
<your brain is the part of the equation which is garbage, and so i would be calling customer service for an upgrade or a refund if i were you.>

the data is sourced from OECD and World Bank, which are authoritative for such metrics and comparisons. you also need to bear in mind that the comparison is only made amongst OECD countries. countries like pakistan, afghanistan, and all the other really poor countries aren't in the OECD and therefore not included in the data set.
http://www.oecd.org/general/listofoecdmembercountries-ratificationoftheconventionontheoecd.htm


and yes, the US only lags Turkey, Mexico, and Poland when it comes to the % children living in poverty. that is pretty damn sad for a so-called #1 super-power.

If you care so much, join a charity to solve the problem.

I guess bitching on CP solves the problem too.
 






+1 for the humor. nice try, but try again.
<your brain is the part of the equation which is garbage, and so i would be calling customer service for an upgrade or a refund if i were you.>

the data is sourced from OECD and World Bank, which are authoritative for such metrics and comparisons. you also need to bear in mind that the comparison is only made amongst OECD countries. countries like pakistan, afghanistan, and all the other really poor countries aren't in the OECD and therefore not included in the data set.
http://www.oecd.org/general/listofoecdmembercountries-ratificationoftheconventionontheoecd.htm


and yes, the US only lags Turkey, Mexico, and Poland when it comes to the % children living in poverty. that is pretty damn sad for a so-called #1 super-power.

And this is precisely why your links are garbage. To be poor in The US is not the same as anywhere in the world. To be homeless and truly impoverished in America, one has to make an active choice. I believe an estimated $80 billion goes to food stamps. $45 billion is spent by HUD.... So PLEASE, give me a friggin' break.
 






Of the approximately 12 million children and adolescents who are obese, 38% (approximately 4.5 million) live below 130% of the poverty level.

Not only do our poor eat... They OVEREAT.
 






Of the approximately 12 million children and adolescents who are obese, 38% (approximately 4.5 million) live below 130% of the poverty level.

Not only do our poor eat... They OVEREAT.

and big pharma will be happy to supply them with diabetes, hypertension, and anti-obesity medicines.

only if big government pays. ;-)
 






If you care so much, join a charity to solve the problem.

I guess bitching on CP solves the problem too.

well given the replies, it appears the audience doesn't actually perceive the problem.
which is fine, because your society/culture isn't worth saving.
the wealth inequality and political problems will eventually sort themselves out.
 






well given the replies, it appears the audience doesn't actually perceive the problem.
which is fine, because your society/culture isn't worth saving.
the wealth inequality and political problems will eventually sort themselves out.

There is no problem. Human ability, intelligence and drive is a bell curve. We can't all be on the better side of the bell curve.

No amount of wealth redistribution will change nature.

Or let's all do the race to the bottom so we are all equally miserable.
 






There is no problem. Human ability, intelligence and drive is a bell curve. We can't all be on the better side of the bell curve.

No amount of wealth redistribution will change nature.

Or let's all do the race to the bottom so we are all equally miserable.

For so long as you manifest yourself in

human or animal form, you must eat at the expense of other life and

accept the limitations of your particular organism, which fire will still

burn and wherein danger will still secrete adrenalin. The morality that

goes with this understanding is, above all, the frank recognition of your

dependence upon enemies, underlings, out-groups, and, indeed, upon all

other forms of life whatsoever. Involved as you may be in the conflicts

and competitive games of practical life, you will never again be able to

indulge in the illusion that the "offensive other" is all in the wrong, and

could or should be wiped out. This will give you the priceless ability of

being able to contain conflicts so that they do not get out-of-hand, of

being willing to compromise and adapt, of playing, yes, but playing it

cool. This is what is called "honor among thieves," for the really

dangerous people are those who do not recognize that they are thieves—

the unfortunates who play the role of the "good guys" with such blind

zeal that they are unconscious of any indebtedness to the "bad guys"

who support their status. To paraphrase the Gospel, "Love your

competitors, and pray for those who undercut your prices." You would

be nowhere at all without them.


The political and personal morality of the West, especially in the

United States, is—for lack of this sense—utterly schizophrenic. It is a

monstrous combination of uncompromising idealism and unscrupulous

gangsterism, and thus devoid of the humor and humaneness which

enables confessed rascals to sit down together and work out reasonable

deals. No one can be moral—that is, no one can harmonize contained

conflicts—without coming to a working arrangement between the angel

in himself and the devil in himself, between his rose above and his

manure below. The two forces or tendencies are mutually

interdependent, and the game is a working game just so long as the

angel is winning, but does not win, and the devil is losing, but is never

lost. (The game doesn't work in reverse, just as the ocean doesn't work

with wave-crests down and troughs up.)

It is most important that this be understood by those concerned with

civil rights, international peace, and the restraint of nuclear weapons.

These are most undoubtedly causes to be backed with full vigor, but

never in a spirit which fails to honor the opposition, or which regards it

as entirely evil or insane. It is not without reason that the formal rules of

boxing, judo, fencing, and even dueling require that the combatants

salute each other before the engagement. In any foreseeable future there

are going to be thousands and thousands of people who detest and

abominate Negroes, communists, Russians, Chinese, Jews, Catholics,

beatniks, homosexuals, and "dope-fiends." These hatreds are not going

to be healed, but only inflamed, by insulting those who feel them, and

the abusive labels with which we plaster them—squares, fascists,

rightists, know-nothings—may well become the proud badges and

symbols around which they will rally and consolidate themselves. Nor

will it do to confront the opposition in public with polite and nonviolent

sit-ins and demonstrations, while boosting our collective ego by

insulting them in private. If we want justice for minorities and cooled

wars with our natural enemies, whether human or non-human, we must

first come to terms with the minority and the enemy in ourselves and in

our own hearts, for the rascal is there as much as anywhere in the

"external" world—-especially when you realize that the world outside

your skin is as much yourself as the world inside. For want of this

awareness, no one can be more belligerent than a pacifist on the

rampage, or more militantly nationalistic than an anti-imperialist.

You may, indeed, argue that this is asking too much. You may resort

to the old alibi that the task of "changing human nature" is too arduous

and too slow, and that what we need is immediate and massive action.

Obviously, it takes discipline to make any radical change in one's own

behavior patterns, and psychotherapy can drag on for years and years.

But this is not my suggestion. Does it really take any considerable time

or effort just to understand that you depend on enemies and outsiders to

define yourself, and that without some opposition you would be lost? To

see this is to acquire, almost instantly, the virtue of humor, and humor

and self-righteousness are mutually exclusive. Humor is the twinkle in

the eye of a just judge, who knows that he is also the felon in the dock.

How could he be sitting there in stately judgment, being addressed as

"Your Honor" or "Mi Lud," without those poor bastards being dragged

before him day after day? It does not undermine his work and his

function to recognize this. He plays the role of judge all the better for

realizing that on the next turn of the Wheel of Fortune he may be the

accused, and that if all the truth were known, he would be standing

there now.

If this is cynicism, it is at least loving cynicism—an attitude and an

atmosphere that cools off human conflicts more effectively than any

amount of physical or moral violence. For it recognizes that the real

goodness of human nature is its peculiar balance of love and selfishness,

reason and passion, spirituality and sensuality, mysticism and

materialism, in which the positive pole has always a slight edge over the

negative. (Were it otherwise, and the two were equally balanced, life

would come to a total stalemate and standstill.) Thus when the two

poles, good and bad, forget their interdependence and try to obliterate

each other, man becomes subhuman—the implacable crusader or the

cold, sadistic thug. It is not for man to be either an angel or a devil, and

the would-be angels should realize that, as their ambition succeeds, they

evoke hordes of devils to keep the balance. This was the lesson of

Prohibition, as of all other attempts to enforce purely angelic behavior,

or to pluck out evil root and branch.

It comes, then, to this: that to be "viable," livable, or merely

practical, life must be lived as a game—and the "must" here expresses a

condition, not a commandment. It must be lived in the spirit of play

rather than work, and the conflicts which it involves must be carried on

in the realization that no species, or party to a game, can survive without

its natural antagonists, its beloved enemies, its indispensable opponents.

For to "love your enemies" is to love them as enemies; it is not

necessarily a clever device for winning them over to your own side. The

lion lies down with the lamb in paradise, but not on earth—"paradise"

being the tacit, off-stage level where, behind the scenes, all conflicting

parties recognize their interdependence, and, through this recognition,

are able to keep their conflicts within bounds. This recognition is the

absolutely essential chivalry which must set the limits within all

warfare, with human and non-human enemies alike, for chivalry is the

debonair spirit of the knight who "plays with his life" in the knowledge

that even mortal combat is a game.

No one who has been hoaxed into the belief that he is nothing but his

ego, or nothing but his individual organism, can be chivalrous, let alone

a civilized, sensitive, and intelligent member of the cosmos.

But to be lived this way, the life-game has to be purged of selfcontradictory

rules. This, and not some kind of moral effort, is the way

out of the hoax of separateness. Thus when a game sets the players an

impossible and not simply difficult task, it comes quickly to the point

where it is no longer worth playing. There is no way of observing a rule

set in the form of a double-bind—that is, a two-part rule whose parts are

mutually exclusive. No one can be compelled to behave freely or forced

to act independently. Yet whole cultures and civilizations have

befuddled themselves with this kind of nonsense, and, through failing to

spot the self-contradiction, their members have been haunted all through

their lives by the sense that individual existence is a problem and a

predicament—a form of nature doomed to perpetual frustration. The

sense of ego is at root a discomfort and a bore, and nothing shows it

more clearly than such everyday phrases as: "I need to get away from

myself" or "You should find something to take you out of yourself" or

"I read to forget myself." Get lost! Hence the fanaticisms and

intoxications—religious, political, and sexual, the Nazis, the Klan,

Hell's Angels, the Circus Maximus, the dreary fascination of the TV

screen, witch-burnings, Mickey Spillane and James Bond, pachinko

parlors, alcoholic stupors, revivals, tabloid newspapers, and juvenile

gangs—all of which, as things stand, are the necessary safety-valves and

palliatives for human beings whose very existence is defined in selfcontradictory

and self-defeating terms.

Finally, the game of life as Western man has been "playing" it for the

past century needs less emphasis on practicality, results, progress, and

aggression. This is why I am discussing vision, and keeping off the

subject of justifying the vision in terms of its practical applications and

consequences. Whatever may be true for the Chinese and the Hindus, it

is timely for us to recognize that the future is an ever-retreating mirage,

and to switch our immense energy and technical skill to contemplation

instead of action. However much we may now disagree with Aristotle's

logic and his metaphors, he must still be respected for reminding us that

the goal of action is always contemplation—knowing and being rather

than seeking and becoming.

As it is, we are merely bolting our lives—gulping down undigested

experiences as fast as we can stuff them in—because awareness of our

own existence is so superficial and so narrow that nothing seems to us

more boring than simple being. If I ask you what you did, saw, heard,

smelled, touched, and tasted yesterday, I am likely to get nothing more

than the thin, sketchy outline of the few things that you noticed, and of

those only what you thought worth remembering. Is it surprising that an

existence so experienced seems so empty and bare that its hunger for an

infinite future is insatiable? But suppose you could answer, "It would

take me forever to tell you, and I am much too interested in what's

happening now." How is it possible that a being with such sensitive

jewels as the eyes, such enchanted musical instruments as the ears, and

such a fabulous arabesque of nerves as the brain can experience itself as

anything less than a god? And, when you consider that this incalculably

subtle organism is inseparable from the still more marvelous patterns of

its environment—from the minutest electrical designs to the whole

company of the galaxies—how is it conceivable that this incarnation of

all eternity can be bored with being?

-Alan Watts, The Book, 1966
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60551.The_Book_on_the_Taboo_Against_Knowing_Who_You_Are
http://www.holybooks.com/wp-content...against-knowing-who-you-are-by-Alan-Watts.pdf
 






There is no problem. Human ability, intelligence and drive is a bell curve. We can't all be on the better side of the bell curve.

No amount of wealth redistribution will change nature.

Or let's all do the race to the bottom so we are all equally miserable.

Amen brutha.... No society is more equal than N. Korea... equally miserable.

Equal protection of the law.... YES
Guaranteed equal outcome by law... NO F'ing Way!
 
















































reality
The state of being actual or real.  

I am not interested in your subjective, existential angst. When you are ready to use logic, reason (assuming you have such faculties) and debate facts and reality, I'll be waiting.