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Why does my manager always act?

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Anonymous said:
This company used to have great leaders in the DM and RM ranks, real people who pushed you to get real results and supported you if you performed.

Right around the end of 2005/early 2006, this company changed. The looming patent cliffs of Aricept and Lipitor coupled with losing Zoloft and having to pull Bextra made the company culture shift to a touchy-feely, CYA sham of ass kissing and window dressing.

With no clear direction on how to continue this company on a growth trend after torcetrapib failed, it officially became a joke and laughingstock when looking at who the ELT bought over here/ Good managers left and went to companies with brighter futures. The good regional Directors were displaced by charlatains who had no clue how to manage 150-200 people and only cared about looking good.

By 2010 this company was truly being run by idiots who probably couldn't get a library card if they tried. We were singing and dancing at meetings and playing "Minute to Win it". An absolute fucking joke

Your manager today "acts" because that's what they are supposed to do. Its what the job here has become. Its all there is left to do because now its all about self preservation. If you can still filter out the BS that gets dumped on you like a firehose hooked up directly to a free stall barn, more power to you.

Otherwise, get out and find a real job
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This is the best, most accurate post on CafePharma that I have read in a long time. How true it is.
 








Anonymous said:
Honestly. I was at a meeting this week and we all talked about how our manager simply acts "fake." I feel like I am at a revival session. Why do all these loud, opinionated, gesture crazy people get promoted? Get out of my "space!" I really don't need your "cheerleading" to get the point of your comments. I have forgotten more about the business of my customers than you will ever know. Does anyone else get so frustrated at meetings. I am relatively new to Pfizer, but this last year has been an eye opener. Is it just my idiotic boss or is this more common? I truly want to fall asleep at some points just to prove to him he is that boring!
My manager has been with the company for many years. However, he does not understand the ACA impact on practices; he does not understand the reimbursement changes going on; he does not have a CLUE about how our product promotions and use tie into the previous, and he DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OUT OF TOUCH HE IS! AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH!
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Because he's a manager. That's what they are....worthless, ass-kissing incompetents that went thru the motions, fed off their partners, took all the credit and none of the blame, fed more office cows than the next guy, etc. etc.
don't let it get to you. Try to ignore it, play the role on those worthless ride-alongsi suffer quietly throug the "coaching" sessions and say wow, thank you, you are my idol once or twice and he'll go away believing he really matters.
 




I've said more than once that we are all actors, the script only depends on your audience. Been here 27yrs. I rationalize my behavior. With docs, my self esteem is great. With internal customers, it's all a shell game. As a former DM told me; "I am your most important customer". I know that's true.
 




Anonymous said:
Be grateful that your interactions are "usually" limited to occasional meetings and a ride along once (or maybe) twice a month. With most jobs your boss is on top of your butt everyday in the same office. Count your blessings-you ride in the car (by yourself) seeing your accounts 95% of the time. Try to look at it that way. Sometimes you don't realize how lucky you have it until things change... and the next job/boos ain't so good! Lots of people would love to be in your shoes. If your boss is that bad then you have a decision to make (should I stay or should I go).
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R u serious!? I would rather have a manager that works with me everyday who knows what the hell they're doing and who provides help and support when I need it! The managers here are basically useless! All they do is check boxes and share their useless ideas and waste of time experiences about what they did when they were a rep. Not all managers are bad to work with. Out of all the managers I've had in pharma and non pharma careers, my DM has got to be the Most Useless and dumbest ever! No MBA, no real sales experience, doesn't know jack outside of what's on the coaching report and emails they get from the higher ups!
 




Anonymous said:
R u serious!? I would rather have a manager that works with me everyday who knows what the hell they're doing and who provides help and support when I need it! The managers here are basically useless! All they do is check boxes and share their useless ideas and waste of time experiences about what they did when they were a rep. Not all managers are bad to work with. Out of all the managers I've had in pharma and non pharma careers, my DM has got to be the Most Useless and dumbest ever! No MBA, no real sales experience, doesn't know jack outside of what's on the coaching report and emails they get from the higher ups!
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The response was to the OP. Your boss makes or breaks you on ANY job. You can have the best job in the world with an Ahole boss and guess what -its not fun anymore. Conversely, you can have a job that's not so great or pays less than you would like-yet you have a great boss you love to work with, so you stay. Like the last line on my post said-you have a decision to make....should I stay or should I go. Isn't that what all of us need to do if we have a boss who is truly unbearable?? Yea, we all would love to have supportive bosses(and by the way some of us do, or had them in the past). But if you really hate your boss there is no chain holding you to this company. It's a free country with other opportunities out there.
 




Anonymous said:
Honestly. I was at a meeting this week and we all talked about how our manager simply acts "fake." I feel like I am at a revival session. Why do all these loud, opinionated, gesture crazy people get promoted? Get out of my "space!" I really don't need your "cheerleading" to get the point of your comments. I have forgotten more about the business of my customers than you will ever know. Does anyone else get so frustrated at meetings. I am relatively new to Pfizer, but this last year has been an eye opener. Is it just my idiotic boss or is this more common? I truly want to fall asleep at some points just to prove to him he is that boring!
My manager has been with the company for many years. However, he does not understand the ACA impact on practices; he does not understand the reimbursement changes going on; he does not have a CLUE about how our product promotions and use tie into the previous, and he DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OUT OF TOUCH HE IS! AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH!
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You must be describing Ed Dollar, the most incompetent, stupid little turd that ever masqueraded as a manager or human being
 








Anonymous said:
You must be describing Ed Dollar, the most incompetent, stupid little turd that ever masqueraded as a manager or human being
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Holy shit, that moron is still around? Should have been dumped long ago. He is living
Proof that Pfizer managers have no special talents, no skills, and certainly no leadership qualities.
 




Anonymous said:
Go for a DM job and see how wonderful it is. Reps with tenure make just as much, have better bonuses and have 25% of the bullsh*t to put up with. The one benefit is your own room at meetings. And who has 2-3 admin days a week. If your boss does, I'd like to know how he gets away with it. My RM reviewed/counted coaching guides and days in the field (besides sending comments back on them). Can't do 2-3 days home and get away with it when you are looked at like that. Also, I'm sure everyone reading this works five days a week and 8-5. Be honest and ask your teammates who would want to be a DM. I'm sure you would be surprised at their answers. Interesting that your take on the job is 2-3 admin days a week.
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Had to laugh as I read this. I remember in NE PC 2 or 3 years ago the big development thing was the "leadership lab" which was all about getting more reps (esp. females) to aspire to becoming DMs. It lasted a year then died. Listening to all the DM presenters simply reinforced the fact that it was a largely thankless job (confirmed by my DM who had years in the job and was excellent), made harder by the propaganda from the ELT and the RM. And of course it was cemented by the fact that the first DMs to be laid off were typically the newest!
 




Anonymous said:
Had to laugh as I read this. I remember in NE PC 2 or 3 years ago the big development thing was the "leadership lab" which was all about getting more reps (esp. females) to aspire to becoming DMs. It lasted a year then died. Listening to all the DM presenters simply reinforced the fact that it was a largely thankless job (confirmed by my DM who had years in the job and was excellent), made harder by the propaganda from the ELT and the RM. And of course it was cemented by the fact that the first DMs to be laid off were typically the newest!
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Anyone who takes a DM job these days needs to seriously have their head examined. I heard from a colleague that two DMs in the NE left in 2013 for other jobs (neither of which were DM jobs with other companies/industries). They also folded two other DM slots there when two other DMs went inside. That's four DMs in one area getting the hell out! Sounds like a great gig.
 








DM's get it from both sides (reps and Regionals)...some DMs get 'it' and understand they should just sip the koolaid before spitting it out..then you got the DM nut jobs..Every DM will have that 1 or 2 screwup reps that they inherited, Being only the messenger of company news they get to be the bad guy, and they don't know any more inside info than the rest of us..Just having to be in same car and survive your driving skills should make most people have second thoughts about becoming a DM.
 




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