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Syneos reps can’t even get access at most of the offices in my territory.. That’s why they’re contract reps, and not Lily employees, and it’s also why they are stuck selling a 10 year old drug whereas the PC3 Lilly reps are getting promoted to Specialty.. Your level of ignorance on this matter is astonishing.
 




Syneos reps can’t even get access at most of the offices in my territory.. That’s why they’re contract reps, and not Lily employees, and it’s also why they are stuck selling a 10 year old drug whereas the PC3 Lilly reps are getting promoted to Specialty.. Your level of ignorance on this matter is astonishing.

Funny. Syneos was brought in SELLING spec and PC3 is somehow superior? Market share must have coincidentally soared when they came on, right? Since they have no access and all, as you say? Delusional. Walked around, chest puffed, as you get 'promoted' to spec for a drug that literally sells itself. No respect coming from anyone but your own BU. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
 




Funny. Syneos was brought in SELLING spec and PC3 is somehow superior? Market share must have coincidentally soared when they came on, right? Since they have no access and all, as you say? Delusional. Walked around, chest puffed, as you get 'promoted' to spec for a drug that literally sells itself. No respect coming from anyone but your own BU. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

They're contract reps..If they were better than PC3, they'd be full-time Lilly reps, and PC3 would be completely gone..God, you are too stupid to debate..Go back to your cave, you lobotomized troglodyte.
 




"No respect coming from anyone but your own BU"..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! What an inflated, and completely undeserved sense of self-worth you have, loser!! The only thing more meaningless, and worthless than your opinion is your very existence.
 




They're contract reps..If they were better than PC3, they'd be full-time Lilly reps, and PC3 would be completely gone..God, you are too stupid to debate..Go back to your cave, you lobotomized troglodyte.

Ah, simpleton...you literally predicted your future. Lilly is cheap, but not stupid. PC3 will be gone...long before contract. Mark my lobotomized troglodyte words.
 




Syneos reps can’t even get access at most of the offices in my territory.. That’s why they’re contract reps, and not Lily employees, and it’s also why they are stuck selling a 10 year old drug whereas the PC3 Lilly reps are getting promoted to Specialty.. Your level of ignorance on this matter is astonishing.

you are obviously young and inexperienced I’m a direct Lilly Rep and I have worked direct for many companies and I have worked for Syneos a few times. Pharma is a tough gig, staying employed is the key and the pay checks are the same Direct or contract.
 








They're contract reps..If they were better than PC3, they'd be full-time Lilly reps, and PC3 would be completely gone..God, you are too stupid to debate..Go back to your cave, you lobotomized troglodyte.


I am a syneos rep... I work with many other syneos reps. None of us have any envy whatsoever of our lilly counterparts. I'm anticipating at least 2 more years on this contract. Which is longer than what I'd anticipate for pc3.
 




I am a syneos rep... I work with many other syneos reps. None of us have any envy whatsoever of our lilly counterparts. I'm anticipating at least 2 more years on this contract. Which is longer than what I'd anticipate for pc3.

Well, you’re correct about PC3 not lasting 2 more years; in fact PC3 won’t even be around 2 more months because -as of Oct,1st- PC3 becomes Specialty Obesity reps calling primarily on specialists, so enjoy selling your 10 year old, antiquated “me too” product!
 




Ah, simpleton...you literally predicted your future. Lilly is cheap, but not stupid. PC3 will be gone...long before contract. Mark my lobotomized troglodyte words.

Yes, PC3 will be gone “long before contract” because on Oct 1st PC3 becomes Obesity Specialty reps calling on Specialists, so congratulations on accidentally getting something right.
 




Well, you’re correct about PC3 not lasting 2 more years; in fact PC3 won’t even be around 2 more months because -as of Oct,1st- PC3 becomes Specialty Obesity reps calling primarily on specialists, so enjoy selling your 10 year old, antiquated “me too” product!


You are a real kind of stupid, eh?
 




you are obviously young and inexperienced I’m a direct Lilly Rep and I have worked direct for many companies and I have worked for Syneos a few times. Pharma is a tough gig, staying employed is the key and the pay checks are the same Direct or contract.
yep, former contract rep and current full-time. life was actually much easier as a contract rep with far less pressure, no speaker programs, make your calls and work is done at 4:00pm, no manager texting me at 6am, the list goes on. pay and long-term bennies are of course much better as a full-time but the offices generally have no idea and attach you to a product, not the company.
 




yep, former contract rep and current full-time. life was actually much easier as a contract rep with far less pressure, no speaker programs, make your calls and work is done at 4:00pm, no manager texting me at 6am, the list goes on. pay and long-term bennies are of course much better as a full-time but the offices generally have no idea and attach you to a product, not the company.
Yes!!!! Sure the company is less, but so is the stress It’s just about 5 pm and I’m home and done until tomorrows charade. Contract is the best way to go if you know how to game the system!!
 




Well, you’re correct about PC3 not lasting 2 more years; in fact PC3 won’t even be around 2 more months because -as of Oct,1st- PC3 becomes Specialty Obesity reps calling primarily on specialists, so enjoy selling your 10 year old, antiquated “me too” product!


LoL bro it don't matter what they call you... None of y'all will be here by Christmas next year.

You'll launch obesity, and then they're will be a reorg. 1/3rd will be wiped out and you'll see that 1/3rd is mostly pc3. I mean damn, I've never seen a company treat a sales team like lilly has treated you guys, and y'all too stupid to get the point.
 




LoL bro it don't matter what they call you... None of y'all will be here by Christmas next year.

You'll launch obesity, and then they're will be a reorg. 1/3rd will be wiped out and you'll see that 1/3rd is mostly pc3. I mean damn, I've never seen a company treat a sales team like lilly has treated you guys, and y'all too stupid to get the point.

Exactly! Glad someone else gets it!
 




yep, former contract rep and current full-time. life was actually much easier as a contract rep with far less pressure, no speaker programs, make your calls and work is done at 4:00pm, no manager texting me at 6am, the list goes on. pay and long-term bennies are of course much better as a full-time but the offices generally have no idea and attach you to a product, not the company.

I’ve never been a contract rep, and I’ve also never had a manager call/text me at 6am, and my work is usually completed well before 4pm..If your manager is texting/calling you at 6am, it’s because you suck at your job, and he/she is trying to get you to quit.
 




LoL bro it don't matter what they call you... None of y'all will be here by Christmas next year.

You'll launch obesity, and then they're will be a reorg. 1/3rd will be wiped out and you'll see that 1/3rd is mostly pc3. I mean damn, I've never seen a company treat a sales team like lilly has treated you guys, and y'all too stupid to get the point.

It’s not about “not seeing it” -everyone is subject to layoff at any time- it’s about riding this out as long as I can, and then taking the 60 day notice & severance when it’s all over, and then moving on to the next gig, but no way I’m leaving until then.
 




LoL bro it don't matter what they call you... None of y'all will be here by Christmas next year.

You'll launch obesity, and then they're will be a reorg. 1/3rd will be wiped out and you'll see that 1/3rd is mostly pc3. I mean damn, I've never seen a company treat a sales team like lilly has treated you guys, and y'all too stupid to get the point.

You've "Never seen a company treat a sales team like Lilly has treated you guys"?...Well, son, you are one naive, inexperienced, gullible, simple, childlike grasshopper. I mean, there's a litany of companies -just this year- who have f@cked over their sales force worse than Lilly..Good God man, just do a teensy bit of research about all the layoffs in every industry, and you will see people getting screwed over far worse than the few sales reps at Lilly -who are getting a 60-day notice (full pay & benefits while they sit at home), and a severance package..A lot of people would love to have that kind of separation package.
 




I’ve never been a contract rep, and I’ve also never had a manager call/text me at 6am, and my work is usually completed well before 4pm..If your manager is texting/calling you at 6am, it’s because you suck at your job, and he/she is trying to get you to quit.
You have lucked out. Our manager regularly fires up the text thread with Simon Sinek regurgitations anywhere from ~6:30am.