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What can be done against those work related suicides at Novartis?

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Bet many of you don't know there is a suicide in the US every 15-20 minutes. Looked at another way, there are around 10 suicides per 100K people in the US. Globally, the number tends to be higher per 100K. So, if we assume Novartis people fit that trend roughly, we have over a 100K people, so we should expect something like 10-20/year! That's pretty astonishing when you look at it that way.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States
 




Two years ago a Novartis colleague who I'd worked with for years committed suicide. He was one of the best colleagues I'd ever had--reliable, effective, professional, and kind. He was very highly regarded within the company. I had no idea he was depressed.

One day I got a call from a customer who asked me what happened to my colleague. I said, "What do you mean"? She said, "I heard that your colleague died." I asked around and found out that he did just die and that the funeral would be that weekend. I went to the funeral not knowing how he died. At the church I asked someone what happened, and he told me that my colleague took his life. Needless to say, this was the most depressing funeral I'd ever been to. The looks on his wife's and kids's faces were horrific, and I will never forget them.

I still think about him to this day and wonder if I had missed any signs of depression and could have helped him. Sometimes we forget that our colleagues are people with their own humanity, weaknesses, and pain. I wish I could have helped him.
 




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Two years ago a Novartis colleague who I'd worked with for years committed suicide. He was one of the best colleagues I'd ever had--reliable, effective, professional, and kind. He was very highly regarded within the company. I had no idea he was depressed.

One day I got a call from a customer who asked me what happened to my colleague. I said, "What do you mean"? She said, "I heard that your colleague died." I asked around and found out that he did just die and that the funeral would be that weekend. I went to the funeral not knowing how he died. At the church I asked someone what happened, and he told me that my colleague took his life. Needless to say, this was the most depressing funeral I'd ever been to. The looks on his wife's and kids's faces were horrific, and I will never forget them.

I still think about him to this day and wonder if I had missed any signs of depression and could have helped him. Sometimes we forget that our colleagues are people with their own humanity, weaknesses, and pain. I wish I could have helped him.
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I still think the story of the rep in southern new jersey who was fired, for no good reason, and committed suicide. His counterpart turned him in on bogus wrongdoing. Her and her husband still work for NPC. He left 3 or 4 kids behind.
 








I remember working with my manager, when he recieved a phone call about that Jersey rep who committed suicide. He was so upset he had to leave. This man lost his job on a nonsense technicality. His children were destroyed and I heard the funeral was the saddest thing ever witnessed by thoose who were there. Remember that when you throw someone under the bus. Your not only hurting them but their entire world. Because of that I vowed NEVER to rat on someone who was doing things that did not affect my job personaly.
It is very depressing to loose your job, but most families would prefer to live in a box, rather than loose a loved one.
It's very sad that in our business there are metrics for everything except actual work put in the field. I have seen many presiden't club winners who were not working and just got plain lucky! And it's all about timing and luck.
 




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I remember working with my manager, when he recieved a phone call about that Jersey rep who committed suicide. He was so upset he had to leave. This man lost his job on a nonsense technicality. His children were destroyed and I heard the funeral was the saddest thing ever witnessed by thoose who were there. Remember that when you throw someone under the bus. Your not only hurting them but their entire world. Because of that I vowed NEVER to rat on someone who was doing things that did not affect my job personaly.
It is very depressing to loose your job, but most families would prefer to live in a box, rather than loose a loved one.
It's very sad that in our business there are metrics for everything except actual work put in the field. I have seen many presiden't club winners who were not working and just got plain lucky! And it's all about timing and luck.
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What do you expect from a psychopathic industry like yours?
All a bunch of back stabbing losers.

There are maybe 10 Percent left that are still good.
 








Anonymous said:
I remember working with my manager, when he recieved a phone call about that Jersey rep who committed suicide. He was so upset he had to leave. This man lost his job on a nonsense technicality. His children were destroyed and I heard the funeral was the saddest thing ever witnessed by thoose who were there. Remember that when you throw someone under the bus. Your not only hurting them but their entire world. Because of that I vowed NEVER to rat on someone who was doing things that did not affect my job personaly.
It is very depressing to loose your job, but most families would prefer to live in a box, rather than loose a loved one.
It's very sad that in our business there are metrics for everything except actual work put in the field. I have seen many presiden't club winners who were not working and just got plain lucky! And it's all about timing and luck.
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If there wasn't constant bullying and threats of layoffs all of the time maybe this wouldn't push people into depressive episodes. Unfortunately mental illness still carries such a stigma that many don't seek the help that they need. I know several people at work that have had to go on antidepressants in the last year just to deal with the corporate culture. Just taking your free Sandoz tranquilizers must save them tons of money in that regard. This company is so fucked up.
 




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If there wasn't constant bullying and threats of layoffs all of the time maybe this wouldn't push people into depressive episodes. Unfortunately mental illness still carries such a stigma that many don't seek the help that they need. I know several people at work that have had to go on antidepressants in the last year just to deal with the corporate culture. Just taking your free Sandoz tranquilizers must save them tons of money in that regard. This company is so fucked up.
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Of course, it be related to the fact that the job is parasitic and is representative of an entire industry that is basically the same. But for that to be one of the causes of the guilt would mean that Pharma Reps morals and a conscience,
 








Anonymous said:
Two years ago a Novartis colleague who I'd worked with for years committed suicide. He was one of the best colleagues I'd ever had--reliable, effective, professional, and kind. He was very highly regarded within the company. I had no idea he was depressed.

One day I got a call from a customer who asked me what happened to my colleague. I said, "What do you mean"? She said, "I heard that your colleague died." I asked around and found out that he did just die and that the funeral would be that weekend. I went to the funeral not knowing how he died. At the church I asked someone what happened, and he told me that my colleague took his life. Needless to say, this was the most depressing funeral I'd ever been to. The looks on his wife's and kids's faces were horrific, and I will never forget them.

I still think about him to this day and wonder if I had missed any signs of depression and could have helped him. Sometimes we forget that our colleagues are people with their own humanity, weaknesses, and pain. I wish I could have helped him.
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Yup, you caused it . Stop pretending, you have guilt , you coulda prevented it, but u wanted to RISE RISE RISE, so u have. Stop pretending u care. Effff u.
 












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