Was Edarbi worth it? Lost all of our best reps to Novo

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Anonymous said:
There are about 5-6 replies calling BS on your post, regarding you comments on bonuses.

Here's what happened to me and many others that ended up at Novo. Many of us did not even launch Edarbi, we were given this drug after the Jan 12 RIF. The rep that launched Edarbi in my old territory did great in the beginning. Even though the rep in my territory, that kaunched Edarbi, did great; they were cut during the RIF. Then I pick up unreasonable goals for the quarter, like 135 scripts while my peers I competed against only had goals of 15-20 scripts. This easily became a 15k a year pay cut for me, completely unreasonable goals for a launch I had nothing to do with and the great rep that launched Edarbi was RIF'd. I didn't run when things got tough, I left because the once great company I worked for no longer made logical business decisions, I was Takeda legacy, part of the original Actos launch team. I won 6 Cressets while I was there. I do not agree with the OP that only the crap reps are left at Takeda, but either you have not had to experience the unreasonable bag mix change ( and watching your top performing partner get RIF'd) I did, or you somehow don't mind getting abused that way and taking pay cuts due to the most illogical business decisions being made up top. PBR had me selling everything Takeda had in a few short years, this Takeda legacy killed it with Dex and Ami..BTW. Novo is not the holy grail others make it out to be on here. But I do make more money, I'm back in a real diabetes franchise, the company is still growing like crazy and a RIF is the last thing anyone is thinking right now. Yes, it is big pharma, but they aren't playing games with my income like Takeda did. So rather than sit by while my income was dropping, due to the situation I described above, I took the job with Novo that summer to move on with my life. As I get acquainted with other Ex-Takeda reps at Novo, most left for the exact reason I did.
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1) There is not 5-6 responses calling BS, just one and that person is wrong. Reps are coming in over 650% to goal, right now with a month left. 10k is what I am making regardless of what anyone on here is saying.

2) the reason why your goals were higher was due to your baseline being higher. It became a 15k (which I doubt but was probably like 1 or 2 qrts of making little money but my partner had the same situation and she made 12k her 4th qrt bonus and one cresset) because you didn't do a good job selling the product. Period. Blame the company all you want.

3) in my district and region, NO good reps were let go. I lost two partners that were here less time than me and make less than I do. They were RIF's due to where they lived. They were never a high performing rep.

4) my products have changed in the 6 yrs I have been here (roz, prov, Actos, dex, Uloric, colcrys and now Nesina). So what???? I now have experience in many diseases states. I was not hired as a specialty rep and I am pretty sure when you started, Takeda wasn't a specialty sales force.

5) your company doesn't dictate how much you make but you do. If its so different else where, I wonder how Novo determines goals and bonuses. What they haven't done is changed how much our bonus structure is. Until they drop that, then I will be pisses (my wife's company dropped her bonus by 50%, now that's messing with your money).

I can care less that people left Takeda, but to say only the best left and the crap stayed, well that's BS. If you would like I can give you the background of all the Takeda reps that I know that left to Novo. It's pretty sad. There are a few fired Takeda reps, former trainers and pretty much the bottom of the barrel. Many were my former partners. And BTW-they all ask me to come join whenever there is an opening and I don't want to work with those slackers
 




Anonymous said:
I got the job at Novo, you're stuck at Takeda. Enjoy getting laughed at by your docs with your me too crap.

I sorry you didn't get the job.
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I am sorry you are an IM rep. No Endo's for you. I wonder why you guys need a "specialty" sales force. Oh and a diabetes educator. So sad and you say we are getting laughed at.
 
















Anonymous said:
1) There is not 5-6 responses calling BS, just one and that person is wrong. Reps are coming in over 650% to goal, right now with a month left. 10k is what I am making regardless of what anyone on here is saying.

2) the reason why your goals were higher was due to your baseline being higher. It became a 15k (which I doubt but was probably like 1 or 2 qrts of making little money but my partner had the same situation and she made 12k her 4th qrt bonus and one cresset) because you didn't do a good job selling the product. Period. Blame the company all you want.

3) in my district and region, NO good reps were let go. I lost two partners that were here less time than me and make less than I do. They were RIF's due to where they lived. They were never a high performing rep.

4) my products have changed in the 6 yrs I have been here (roz, prov, Actos, dex, Uloric, colcrys and now Nesina). So what???? I now have experience in many diseases states. I was not hired as a specialty rep and I am pretty sure when you started, Takeda wasn't a specialty sales force.

5) your company doesn't dictate how much you make but you do. If its so different else where, I wonder how Novo determines goals and bonuses. What they haven't done is changed how much our bonus structure is. Until they drop that, then I will be pisses (my wife's company dropped her bonus by 50%, now that's messing with your money).

I can care less that people left Takeda, but to say only the best left and the crap stayed, well that's BS. If you would like I can give you the background of all the Takeda reps that I know that left to Novo. It's pretty sad. There are a few fired Takeda reps, former trainers and pretty much the bottom of the barrel. Many were my former partners. And BTW-they all ask me to come join whenever there is an opening and I don't want to work with those slackers
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Its true, the best left and the crap losers like yourself are still around. hey would ja blow me?
 












Anonymous said:
1) There is not 5-6 responses calling BS, just one and that person is wrong. Reps are coming in over 650% to goal, right now with a month left. 10k is what I am making regardless of what anyone on here is saying.

2) the reason why your goals were higher was due to your baseline being higher. It became a 15k (which I doubt but was probably like 1 or 2 qrts of making little money but my partner had the same situation and she made 12k her 4th qrt bonus and one cresset) because you didn't do a good job selling the product. Period. Blame the company all you want.

3) in my district and region, NO good reps were let go. I lost two partners that were here less time than me and make less than I do. They were RIF's due to where they lived. They were never a high performing rep.

4) my products have changed in the 6 yrs I have been here (roz, prov, Actos, dex, Uloric, colcrys and now Nesina). So what???? I now have experience in many diseases states. I was not hired as a specialty rep and I am pretty sure when you started, Takeda wasn't a specialty sales force.

5) your company doesn't dictate how much you make but you do. If its so different else where, I wonder how Novo determines goals and bonuses. What they haven't done is changed how much our bonus structure is. Until they drop that, then I will be pisses (my wife's company dropped her bonus by 50%, now that's messing with your money).

I can care less that people left Takeda, but to say only the best left and the crap stayed, well that's BS. If you would like I can give you the background of all the Takeda reps that I know that left to Novo. It's pretty sad. There are a few fired Takeda reps, former trainers and pretty much the bottom of the barrel. Many were my former partners. And BTW-they all ask me to come join whenever there is an opening and I don't want to work with those slackers
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You are exactly the type of rep Takeda wants. Glad you are happy with mediocrity and instability.
 












Anonymous said:
I can care less that people left Takeda, but to say only the best left and the crap stayed, well that's BS. If you would like I can give you the background of all the Takeda reps that I know that left to Novo. It's pretty sad. There are a few fired Takeda reps, former trainers and pretty much the bottom of the barrel. Many were my former partners. And BTW-they all ask me to come join whenever there is an opening and I don't want to work with those slackers
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That is so funny. I used to work at Takeda and left for Novo. I can guarantee you that my sales background is superior to yours. I have a liberal arts degree. In fact, I have a masters degree in liberal arts. The really funny thing is that unless you are 4 other people in TAP or Takeda, I have won more of everything than you. Plates, Excaliburs, Cresset's, Will Halls, you name it. Get a clue and just admit you didn't get to the phone interview cause you've never been top 20% sales at Takeda.
 




Anonymous said:
That is so funny. I used to work at Takeda and left for Novo. I can guarantee you that my sales background is superior to yours. I have a liberal arts degree. In fact, I have a masters degree in liberal arts. The really funny thing is that unless you are 4 other people in TAP or Takeda, I have won more of everything than you. Plates, Excaliburs, Cresset's, Will Halls, you name it. Get a clue and just admit you didn't get to the phone interview cause you've never been top 20% sales at Takeda.
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Can you name the 4 other people in TAP or Takeda? You sound like a real loser! Pussy!
 








Anonymous said:
That is so funny. I used to work at Takeda and left for Novo. I can guarantee you that my sales background is superior to yours. I have a liberal arts degree. In fact, I have a masters degree in liberal arts. The really funny thing is that unless you are 4 other people in TAP or Takeda, I have won more of everything than you. Plates, Excaliburs, Cresset's, Will Halls, you name it. Get a clue and just admit you didn't get to the phone interview cause you've never been top 20% sales at Takeda.
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Me Liberal Arts degree left for Novo. Thank God!!!!! How is it calling on only IM's and speaking to your POD 4 times a day? Only pathetic fools like yourself make lateral moves.

BTW- I am loving the fact that novo is doing another expansion and they are bringing in only green reps so they don't have to pay them. If they work out, bye bye to all the tools that left to novo.
 




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