Wake Up people

[anonymous]

Listen, if anyone here thinks that jumping ship here for any other opportunity, whether its another company, start up etc, you are crazy if you think the challenges on the other side are not the same , or even worse. I can tell you I have had several friends in the pharma biotech arena leave for start ups that looked awesome and promising, only to be sold off at last minute and they worked for 1 year IF that, only to find themselves now looking for a new job, and they left a company they had been with that was more stable. My point is all medical sales positions have challenges, whether is possible layoffs, mergers, etc, but I can tell you that leaving here for any start up, etc is simply reactive thinking and not an intelligent well thought out decision. I have perosnally seen 4 friends of mine in the past 2 years get burned by the promises made by a start up. I am not a kool aid drinker and I know there are some issues here, but tell me what company doesn't have issues???. I can tell you confidently that this is a good place to be, better than 85% of the other companies in our industry. Just my 2 cents

 

[anonymous]

Thanks for the comments, now adjust the dose of your happy pill. You need a bigger dose. Mallinckrodt is known for having the worst leadership and over priced products that only cares about share holder value and now that sucks. Name one product that is growing or managed well? Crickets.

 

[anonymous]

wow!! Someone is really nuts!! Wait till the new product! Then you will run!!

 

[anonymous]

Listen, if anyone here thinks that jumping ship here for any other opportunity, whether its another company, start up etc, you are crazy if you think the challenges on the other side are not the same , or even worse. I can tell you I have had several friends in the pharma biotech arena leave for start ups that looked awesome and promising, only to be sold off at last minute and they worked for 1 year IF that, only to find themselves now looking for a new job, and they left a company they had been with that was more stable. My point is all medical sales positions have challenges, whether is possible layoffs, mergers, etc, but I can tell you that leaving here for any start up, etc is simply reactive thinking and not an intelligent well thought out decision. I have perosnally seen 4 friends of mine in the past 2 years get burned by the promises made by a start up. I am not a kool aid drinker and I know there are some issues here, but tell me what company doesn't have issues???. I can tell you confidently that this is a good place to be, better than 85% of the other companies in our industry. Just my 2 cents

this is the dumbest thing Ive ever read on the internet.

 

[anonymous]

keep your two cents!!!

 

[anonymous]

Listen, if anyone here thinks that jumping ship here for any other opportunity, whether its another company, start up etc, you are crazy if you think the challenges on the other side are not the same , or even worse. I can tell you I have had several friends in the pharma biotech arena leave for start ups that looked awesome and promising, only to be sold off at last minute and they worked for 1 year IF that, only to find themselves now looking for a new job, and they left a company they had been with that was more stable. My point is all medical sales positions have challenges, whether is possible layoffs, mergers, etc, but I can tell you that leaving here for any start up, etc is simply reactive thinking and not an intelligent well thought out decision. I have perosnally seen 4 friends of mine in the past 2 years get burned by the promises made by a start up. I am not a kool aid drinker and I know there are some issues here, but tell me what company doesn't have issues???. I can tell you confidently that this is a good place to be, better than 85% of the other companies in our industry. Just my 2 cents

I agree with this, I'm actually not really happy either, but I'm not going to be any happier at another Pharma biotech company, many times you run into this same exact situations or even worse. Everything in this industry sucks anymore. Why leave here and go to another company when you going to deal with the same horseshit. Except for you have to go through all the training again, learn all new processes, and the list goes on.

 

[anonymous]

I agree with this, I'm actually not really happy either, but I'm not going to be any happier at another Pharma biotech company, many times you run into this same exact situations or even worse. Everything in this industry sucks anymore. Why leave here and go to another company when you going to deal with the same horseshit. Except for you have to go through all the training again, learn all new processes, and the list goes on.

You're points are valid to an extent. The industry does suck and it just is getting worse. With that said, it has gotten pretty unbearable here to be tolerable. Outside of the port management and evil leaders, the corrupt and greedy decision they have made have enormously affected my reputation and day to day activities with customers. Sometimes a new start (albeit extremely rough in the beginning) is in order. There are some decent companies out there and unfortunately why we stay in this industry, it is something we need to deal with. But started fresh in a new area of medicine with a nice company reputation and less hostile customers makes the daily grind a bit better. I think in the long run, this place is a sinking ship and there isn't one day anymore that I don't get at least a percentage of hostility for OFIRMEV and psychologically that is very taxing. I don't know what other territories are like, but I literally get shouted at and harsh words thrown at me about the company and this product everyday.

 

[anonymous]

I agree with this, I'm actually not really happy either, but I'm not going to be any happier at another Pharma biotech company, many times you run into this same exact situations or even worse. Everything in this industry sucks anymore. Why leave here and go to another company when you going to deal with the same horseshit. Except for you have to go through all the training again, learn all new processes, and the list goes on.

you sound like you have no confidence in your abilities and are afraid that no other company will want you. It sucks doesn't it, you have all those years of experience and you never made it past just being ok. No presidents club to talk about, no high ranking, nothing. And now reality hits and you know that all those years you just skated on by. Enjoy staying with this shitbag of a company, having your reputation destroyed and being laughed at by your customers. I hear taco bell is hiring.

Yes there is shit with every company but this one is the fucking worst. They promote secretaries to run divisions, they out price their products because theres no "competition", and they treat their employees like indentured servants.

Terrible just terrible

 

[anonymous]

Listen, if anyone here thinks that jumping ship here for any other opportunity, whether its another company, start up etc, you are crazy if you think the challenges on the other side are not the same , or even worse. I can tell you I have had several friends in the pharma biotech arena leave for start ups that looked awesome and promising, only to be sold off at last minute and they worked for 1 year IF that, only to find themselves now looking for a new job, and they left a company they had been with that was more stable. My point is all medical sales positions have challenges, whether is possible layoffs, mergers, etc, but I can tell you that leaving here for any start up, etc is simply reactive thinking and not an intelligent well thought out decision. I have perosnally seen 4 friends of mine in the past 2 years get burned by the promises made by a start up. I am not a kool aid drinker and I know there are some issues here, but tell me what company doesn't have issues???. I can tell you confidently that this is a good place to be, better than 85% of the other companies in our industry. Just my 2 cents

Yes. I am one of those people you described above. What you forgot to mention is that after I lost my job after 15 months at my start up I walked away with 183k is stock options hat vested immediately upon the buyout, added a new therapeutic area to my skill set, added the skills needed in a start up and found another job at another start up with a strong potential to make similar money as I did in the 15 months at my first start up. Keep playing it safe and banking your 100k yearly salary. Did I mention my base salary now is 135K and a 60k at plan with the new launch? Oh and i truly am the boss of my territory with tremendous entrepreneurial decisions to make regarding my business.

 

[anonymous]

I agree with this, I'm actually not really happy either, but I'm not going to be any happier at another Pharma biotech company, many times you run into this same exact situations or even worse. Everything in this industry sucks anymore. Why leave here and go to another company when you going to deal with the same horseshit. Except for you have to go through all the training again, learn all new processes, and the list goes on.

You are so wrong and feel sorry for your lack of intelligence and abundance of ignorance. Your ignorance does not warrant my time to reply with the response to help you understand.

 

[anonymous]

Yes. I am one of those people you described above. What you forgot to mention is that after I lost my job after 15 months at my start up I walked away with 183k is stock options hat vested immediately upon the buyout, added a new therapeutic area to my skill set, added the skills needed in a start up and found another job at another start up with a strong potential to make similar money as I did in the 15 months at my first start up. Keep playing it safe and banking your 100k yearly salary. Did I mention my base salary now is 135K and a 60k at plan with the new launch? Oh and i truly am the boss of my territory with tremendous entrepreneurial decisions to make regarding my business.

Ya, ok!!!! Because there are constant great starts up that give that outcome. BS... And what do you do when you lose your job after buyout ? You think there is always a great startup constrantly in the waiting for you that will be the same outcome? Your experience, IF it's even true, is far from typical in the risky start up world!

 

[anonymous]

Yes. I am one of those people you described above. What you forgot to mention is that after I lost my job after 15 months at my start up I walked away with 183k is stock options hat vested immediately upon the buyout, added a new therapeutic area to my skill set, added the skills needed in a start up and found another job at another start up with a strong potential to make similar money as I did in the 15 months at my first start up. Keep playing it safe and banking your 100k yearly salary. Did I mention my base salary now is 135K and a 60k at plan with the new launch? Oh and i truly am the boss of my territory with tremendous entrepreneurial decisions to make regarding my business.

I'm just getting into this conversation. I sincerely think That's great that happened to you. Even more incredible you had almost 200k fully vested from stock. I wish I could say I had that kind of cash in the bank and many people might be able to say that, but I simply can't. My spouse was hit with an illness that depleted most of our savings. But your kind of good fortune and luck isn't going to happen every time and the going from job to job can also carry a lot of psychological stress as well. There are a lot of highs and a lot of lows. To go from one company to the next and go through all that training etc. can also have enormous downsides. I think what happened to you was great and you had luck on your side, but it can be just a disastrous going the other way. With a family to support, sometimes you just can't take those kind of risks. I'm sure you can understand that to a point. I have a lot of kids to feed. I truly am happy for your successful story and wish I could say the same. I do know that I dint plan on staying at Mallinckrodt and will be careful of what I select. I know of many that have gone elsewhere like going to Regeneron (of which I was asked but had zero interest and those I know who went there are completely miserable) as well as other companies (that have already folded).
One thing for sure is that I definitely don't want to be around with Mallinckrodt if there is a new drug launch in the future as no hospital will ever support Mallinckrodt or anyone connected to the name Mallinckrodt ever again. I agree with an earlier post in regards to our leadership here. I have never in my entire career worked with such deplorable self serving leaders. Even our leadership that carried over from Cadence have been a real disappointment and have really drank the Kool aid. So I will try to choose the opportunities as best as I can with the companies that offer the most attractive base pay and benefits for my family. Your base is the only true guarantee as any company can spout off whatever they want regarding bonus. We all know that isn't a guarantee and can completely shatter and fall apart whenever they feel like it. We have seen it here at Mallinckrodt! My pay is nothing like it was and when you have others to support, you really feel that deficit. So advice to everyone. Try to never compromise your base pay when looking at other opportunities, unless you are leaving this industry all together. I hope to be able to do that some day.

 

[anonymous]

Always do the right thing and you will be blessed. Working with an unethical company will only hurt you in long run. There are companies out there that have ethics and do it the right way. Mallinckrodt is not one of those.

 

[anonymous]

Luck is when being prepared meets the perfect opportunity

 

[anonymous]

Luck is when being prepared meets the perfect opportunity

Thanks Plato. I had that poster on my wall too when I was 12.

 

[anonymous]

Always do the right thing and you will be blessed. Working with an unethical company will only hurt you in long run. There are companies out there that have ethics and do it the right way. Mallinckrodt is not one of those.

That's great advice and I appreciate it. It's been a tough road and my spouse isn't completely out of the woods health wise, but with this experience and the treatments we have endured as a family we now know that every single day is a miraculous gift. At the end of the day, I agree that when you do the right thing good things will follow. Mallinckrodt isn't where I want to be and I hope the right opportunity will happen as I agree that there are absolutely no ethics here. There's a lot of bad people running this company. Im working here for now because I have to. Not only for the money but for the health insurance as well. I hide my stress and feelings about my job from my family and I pray that I will find an opportunity I feel good about. Despite some of the negative posts left by other people, I hope everyone finds a new opportunity and personal happiness. We are all in a bad spot here now, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I have to believe that for everyone.

 

[anonymous]

Ya, ok!!!! Because there are constant great starts up that give that outcome. BS... And what do you do when you lose your job after buyout ? You think there is always a great startup constantly in the waiting for you that will be the same outcome? Your experience, IF it's even true, is far from typical in the risky start up world!

My post above is 100% true. In fact I see my current venture more stable, lucrative and fun than my previous start-up. I understand its not for everyone due to the risk however if you can hit 2-3 of these in a few years you can easily make 300-400K in stock alone. The main area of concern is doing your DD on the product and the disease state.

Both products I was/will be supporting were launched into disease states that had non other options or other options that were filled with SE and other issues. This helps with the stability piece as well as the quick buyout for the stock. I can care less if you believe all some or nothing of what I am posting.

I am not one just to jump to a startup because its a start up and they will give you equity. Again, it highly depends on the clinical profile of the drug as well as the disease state it will be launched. I am not about to go to a startup launching another ACE inhibitor or statin into the CD market.

I am posting this only to balance out what the ignorant OP posted which was ALL one sided and inaccurate.

 

[anonymous]

Damn you are old! What is a statin and ace inhibitor? Is that like a beta blocker or ccb.
8 track tape and black and white tv sort of old.

 

[anonymous]

My post above is 100% true. In fact I see my current venture more stable, lucrative and fun than my previous start-up. I understand its not for everyone due to the risk however if you can hit 2-3 of these in a few years you can easily make 300-400K in stock alone. The main area of concern is doing your DD on the product and the disease state.

Both products I was/will be supporting were launched into disease states that had non other options or other options that were filled with SE and other issues. This helps with the stability piece as well as the quick buyout for the stock. I can care less if you believe all some or nothing of what I am posting.

I am not one just to jump to a startup because its a start up and they will give you equity. Again, it highly depends on the clinical profile of the drug as well as the disease state it will be launched. I am not about to go to a startup launching another ACE inhibitor or statin into the CD market.

I am posting this only to balance out what the ignorant OP posted which was ALL one sided and inaccurate.

I get what you have posted and completely understand. You sound like a smart individual. When you have a family and other issues, you have to weigh those risks, but I do know of some of the opportunities that will be coming through soon and plan on really looking at them strongly. Regardless, like we discussed, many options will be better than Mallinckrodt. It's all about doing your due diligence and picking the right one. It is a shame that everyone on here can't have intelligent conversations like your posts rather than be like complete immature idiots. It really is hard to believe that there are people that work side by side with us that are so immature and idiotic. If they were out of the picture, this would be a Decent forum.

 

[anonymous]

I get what you have posted and completely understand. You sound like a smart individual. When you have a family and other issues, you have to weigh those risks, but I do know of some of the opportunities that will be coming through soon and plan on really looking at them strongly. Regardless, like we discussed, many options will be better than Mallinckrodt. It's all about doing your due diligence and picking the right one. It is a shame that everyone on here can't have intelligent conversations like your posts rather than be like complete immature idiots. It really is hard to believe that there are people that work side by side with us that are so immature and idiotic. If they were out of the picture, this would be a Decent forum.

I 100% believe that you are the same poster in the post you're agreeing with.