Truth about cologuard - know this before assuming cologuard is your gold standard.

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anonymous said:
The Truth About Cologuard Tests: Doctors Are Warning Patients
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Here we go again. Follow the bouncing ball…

If everyone would be compliant and go get a colonoscopy, then GI doctors like Dr. Ahlquist and the other GI’s at the Mayo Clinic wouldn’t have had to develop Cologuard.

News flash to the GI’s at the GCSA in TX… COLOGUARD WAS DEVELOPED BY GI DOCTORS!!!!

READ THAT AGAIN:

COLOGUARD WAS DEVELOPED BY GI DOCTORS!!!

One more time for the cheap seats:

COLOGUARD WAS DEVELOPED BY GI DOCTORS!!!

A colonoscopy is only 95% sensitive! CG is 92% (stage 1-4) and 94% (stage 1-2) sensitive.

Why does the GCSA support the use of FIT in their guidelines but not CG when polyp detection is clearly better?

Why do GI’s continue to increase their usage of CG?

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Yes….let’s continue to beat our head against a wall with colonoscopy in hopes that low risk patients will magically start going. 1/3 patients are not up to date with screening, CRC is in the top cancer related causes of death in the US, BUT YES LETS CONTINUE TO FO THE SAMR THING. CG isn’t going anywhere for the next 5-10 years
 






anonymous said:
Here we go again. Follow the bouncing ball…

If everyone would be compliant and go get a colonoscopy, then GI doctors like Dr. Ahlquist and the other GI’s at the Mayo Clinic wouldn’t have had to develop Cologuard.

News flash to the GI’s at the GCSA in TX… COLOGUARD WAS DEVELOPED BY GI DOCTORS!!!!

READ THAT AGAIN:

COLOGUARD WAS DEVELOPED BY GI DOCTORS!!!

One more time for the cheap seats:

COLOGUARD WAS DEVELOPED BY GI DOCTORS!!!

A colonoscopy is only 95% sensitive! CG is 92% (stage 1-4) and 94% (stage 1-2) sensitive.

Why does the GCSA support the use of FIT in their guidelines but not CG when polyp detection is clearly better?

Why do GI’s continue to increase their usage of CG?

We await your response…
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Sorry, what?? You are not in the sciences, are you? Another dumb salesperson screaming at the top of his lungs. Laughable.

That post IS from gastroenterology consultants. Just because cologuard was developed by GI doctors, does NOT mean that it is the gold standard (yet). Colonoscopy is the gold standard. This post is ALSO from gastroenterologists.

Since you don't get it - where screening is concerned, go for colonoscopy, if you are high risk. The post is NOT talking about cancer detection. It is making a case for preemptive screening for pre-cancerous polyps if you are high-risk.

ACG clinical guidelines recommend Cologuard in conjunction with FIT. FIT is not a replacement for a Colonoscopy. Do you understand the difference? Have someone with an advanced degree in the sciences explain that to you.
 






anonymous said:
Yes….let’s continue to beat our head against a wall with colonoscopy in hopes that low risk patients will magically start going. 1/3 patients are not up to date with screening, CRC is in the top cancer related causes of death in the US, BUT YES LETS CONTINUE TO FO THE SAMR THING. CG isn’t going anywhere for the next 5-10 years
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Just curious. Do you know what the cost of a colonoscopy screening versus the cost of a cologuard test is?
 






anonymous said:
Sorry, what?? You are not in the sciences, are you? Another dumb salesperson screaming at the top of his lungs. Laughable.

That post IS from gastroenterology consultants. Just because cologuard was developed by GI doctors, does NOT mean that it is the gold standard (yet). Colonoscopy is the gold standard. This post is ALSO from gastroenterologists.

Since you don't get it - where screening is concerned, go for colonoscopy, if you are high risk. The post is NOT talking about cancer detection. It is making a case for preemptive screening for pre-cancerous polyps if you are high-risk.

ACG clinical guidelines recommend Cologuard in conjunction with FIT. FIT is not a replacement for a Colonoscopy. Do you understand the difference? Have someone with an advanced degree in the sciences explain that to you.
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Simple reason why GIs want to do colonscopy - - - it is their major source of INCOME!! Follow the money trail, troll loser!
 












anonymous said:
Simple reason why GIs want to do colonscopy - - - it is their major source of INCOME!! Follow the money trail, troll loser!
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Well, that “major source of income“ is also a better screening methodology, which is also why they prefer it. That seems to be a pretty simple reason as well.

Why is it we want them to do CG? Is it because that’s our major source of income? Follow the money, troll loser.
 






anonymous said:
The Truth About Cologuard Tests: Doctors Are Warning Patients
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We wouldn't be having this conversation if the compliance rate for crc screening with colonoscopy or FIT was effective. Unfortunately, it simply has not panned out. This is why Cologuard is on the scene, and has a foothold.

Honestly, all GI's and the entire crc screening community owe Exact Sciences a great big thank you. All the advertising they have done has increased awareness ten fold in the last 8 years. You know what I've never seen on TV? An advertisement by a GI group working to raise awareness for crc screening. You know why? They have plenty of business. Why advertise when you're 3 months out to make an appointment (much longer in some markets).

I'll never understand the vitriol that some have towards Cologuard. Quite ridiculous in my opinion.

For the record, I just troll this site. I'm a survivor, and absolutely recommend CG to my friends and family that are not at increased risk for crc.

I think it's hilarious when a GI group such as GCSA refers to patients at "high risk". Everyone in the community knows that a high risk patient is one that is risk for complications from a colonoscopy. Patients who are at "increased risk" are those with a family or personal history of crc, (among other risk factors that put them at increased risk).

GI groups should get their "asses" into a primary care office and assist them in trying to get patients screened. The true war for getting patients screened is in the primary care offices, not in a GI suite. So out of touch with reality. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

GI's are their own worst enemy. Really nothing more than a bunch of wanna be surgeons.
 






anonymous said:
They’re both free to the patient, preventive screening is covered by law. Follow-up colonoscopy after a positive noninvasive is now covered as well.

What’s your point?
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Idiot, NOTHING IS FREE.

The word you’re looking for is COVERED, meaning it is being by your insurance.

There is a cost to both services.
 












anonymous said:
We wouldn't be having this conversation if the compliance rate for crc screening with colonoscopy or FIT was effective. Unfortunately, it simply has not panned out. This is why Cologuard is on the scene, and has a foothold.

Honestly, all GI's and the entire crc screening community owe Exact Sciences a great big thank you. All the advertising they have done has increased awareness ten fold in the last 8 years. You know what I've never seen on TV? An advertisement by a GI group working to raise awareness for crc screening. You know why? They have plenty of business. Why advertise when you're 3 months out to make an appointment (much longer in some markets).

I'll never understand the vitriol that some have towards Cologuard. Quite ridiculous in my opinion.

For the record, I just troll this site. I'm a survivor, and absolutely recommend CG to my friends and family that are not at increased risk for crc.

I think it's hilarious when a GI group such as GCSA refers to patients at "high risk". Everyone in the community knows that a high risk patient is one that is risk for complications from a colonoscopy. Patients who are at "increased risk" are those with a family or personal history of crc, (among other risk factors that put them at increased risk).

GI groups should get their "asses" into a primary care office and assist them in trying to get patients screened. The true war for getting patients screened is in the primary care offices, not in a GI suite. So out of touch with reality. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

GI's are their own worst enemy. Really nothing more than a bunch of wanna be surgeons.
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So, you don’t like GI doctors. Got it. Funny for someone who claims to be a survivor, as I promise you it’s not a screening test that removes cancer from your colon. It’s seems you’d be grateful….but, that would only be true if you REALLY had colon cancer. But, being it’s obvious you didn’t, you’re just another biased chump running their mouth. FYI - if you have to lie to make your argument, odds are it wasn’t an argument worth making.
 












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So, you don’t like GI doctors. Got it. Funny for someone who claims to be a survivor, as I promise you it’s not a screening test that removes cancer from your colon. It’s seems you’d be grateful….but, that would only be true if you REALLY had colon cancer. But, being it’s obvious you didn’t, you’re just another biased chump running their mouth. FYI - if you have to lie to make your argument, odds are it wasn’t an argument worth making.
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You continue to put your ignorance on display for us. GI’s don’t remove cancer, they refer you to a surgeon at that point.
 






anonymous said:
You continue to put your ignorance on display for us. GI’s don’t remove cancer, they refer you to a surgeon at that point.
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Continue? That was my first post. And, call me crazy, but GIs remove cancer when it’s small, early stage, and completely contained within a polyp - they do it during the colonoscopy. But, I’m sure you knew that. You’re super smart and all.
 






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Continue? That was my first post. And, call me crazy, but GIs remove cancer when it’s small, early stage, and completely contained within a polyp - they do it during the colonoscopy. But, I’m sure you knew that. You’re super smart and all.
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Since you're so educated, I'm sure you know what evidence based medicine is.

What's the evidence? Colonoscopy has been available and paid for in full for over a decade. Yet the one of the slowest growing cancers that's one of the easiest to detect remains the second leading cause of cancer.

Why? Because not everyone has the motivation to go through the procedure. We have to meet patients where their motivation lies.

And since you're so good at science ans stuff, you know there is zero outcomes based trials that say Colonoscopy will save more lives than Cologuard or FIT. The only thing we know for sure is being unscreened has a greater potential for loss of life.

Being updated on screening is the gold standard.
 












anonymous said:
Since you're so educated, I'm sure you know what evidence based medicine is.

What's the evidence? Colonoscopy has been available and paid for in full for over a decade. Yet the one of the slowest growing cancers that's one of the easiest to detect remains the second leading cause of cancer.

Why? Because not everyone has the motivation to go through the procedure. We have to meet patients where their motivation lies.

And since you're so good at science ans stuff, you know there is zero outcomes based trials that say Colonoscopy will save more lives than Cologuard or FIT. The only thing we know for sure is being unscreened has a greater potential for loss of life.

Being updated on screening is the gold standard.
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I’m not sure why this rant was a response to my post. I’m glad you’re pro-screening. We all should be. But, why be anti-GI? That was where my comment came from. All you did was reinforce why no one should be anti-GI….except those who are most concerned with making money off CG. You following? There’s not a person in the world who will be diagnosed with CRC who didn’t get a colonoscopy. That’s the ONLY way to diagnose CRC. So, let’s not be anti-GI.
 






anonymous said:
I’m not sure why this rant was a response to my post. I’m glad you’re pro-screening. We all should be. But, why be anti-GI? That was where my comment came from. All you did was reinforce why no one should be anti-GI….except those who are most concerned with making money off CG. You following? There’s not a person in the world who will be diagnosed with CRC who didn’t get a colonoscopy. That’s the ONLY way to diagnose CRC. So, let’s not be anti-GI.
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It wasn't anti GI. It was anti only offering a scope to a patient patients should be educated on all screening modalities to ensure the best outcome
 












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