Triclosan?

[Anonymous]

What's a mute point? A silent one? I am aware of a moot point but am scared I have missed an important update with the English language. Help me!!!!

yes and when you have no good comeback for a point well-made...change the focus of the conversation. YOU have management potential!

 

[Anonymous]

Since the Plus line has been so overwhelmingly successful, I'm sure the medical industry will be up in arms!!! Launched this crap years ago and unless it was stuffed in the accounts it never got any traction anyway. Blip on the radar folks...enjoy the layoffs, string and mesh are simply string and mesh. No reason to pay robots to pretend they actually contribute to surgery. It's ok to be offended, it's your employment. But if so inclined, I would love to hear you justify your positions. Engage open forum...

Spoken like someone who is pissed off that we "robots" make $150-200k per year and he trolls cafepharma wishing he could work here.

 

[Anonymous]

Spoken like someone who is pissed off that we "robots" make $150-200k per year and he trolls cafepharma wishing he could work here.

Not trolling. Been there/worked there. Not to insult by saying robots, just saying you aren't needed in OR. Don't measure yourself by money (150-200 is not true unless JJHCS signed a contract for you) its a shallow viewpoint. Sad if you do...

 

[Anonymous]

Not trolling. Been there/worked there. Not to insult by saying robots, just saying you aren't needed in OR. Don't measure yourself by money (150-200 is not true unless JJHCS signed a contract for you) its a shallow viewpoint. Sad if you do...

I'm not the original poster but I dont understand when people on here say you can't make that kind of money..I've been a CSR with EP for 7 years and I've never made less than $140k in my seven years here. The last 3 year I've made $165k, $211k, and $170k. I've had no major help from any JJHCS contracts. I have made a good amount off of new product launches and conversions here and there, mostly non suture.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm not the original poster but I dont understand when people on here say you can't make that kind of money..I've been a CSR with EP for 7 years and I've never made less than $140k in my seven years here. The last 3 year I've made $165k, $211k, and $170k. I've had no major help from any JJHCS contracts. I have made a good amount off of new product launches and conversions here and there, mostly non suture.

Good for you! Now go do something with your earnings or at least a portion that will help those who will never ever come close to seeing that type of money.

Stop gloating folks!

 

[Anonymous]

Been a long time since I worked for Ethicon, and the memories are not fond.

However, I always recommend family and friends who are having surgery to request Plus suture and Dermabond, if appropriate. For most of its use--gels, lotions, garden hoses, furniture, clothing, etc.--triclosan has been a hugely successful, potentially (very) toxic marketing ploy. J&J and other companies who are phasing out triclosan in most of their products are doing the right thing. On the other hand, when you have open and other types of surgery--i.e., when you get cut open, pumped full of chemicals, have foreign bodies inserted, and are immobilized afterwards--it just makes sense to use an incredibly effective, incredibly transient barrier against infection. It's not a guarantee; it's just one more cheap, effective step to help prevent infection.

To the poster(s) who are specifically bashing triclosan in the suture, I hope you never have to deal with a bad post-surgical infection in yourselves, your loved ones, or your friends. They can be absolutely horrible.

 

[Anonymous]

Been a long time since I worked for Ethicon, and the memories are not fond.

However, I always recommend family and friends who are having surgery to request Plus suture and Dermabond, if appropriate. For most of its use--gels, lotions, garden hoses, furniture, clothing, etc.--triclosan has been a hugely successful, potentially (very) toxic marketing ploy. J&J and other companies who are phasing out triclosan in most of their products are doing the right thing. On the other hand, when you have open and other types of surgery--i.e., when you get cut open, pumped full of chemicals, have foreign bodies inserted, and are immobilized afterwards--it just makes sense to use an incredibly effective, incredibly transient barrier against infection. It's not a guarantee; it's just one more cheap, effective step to help prevent infection.

To the poster(s) who are specifically bashing triclosan in the suture, I hope you never have to deal with a bad post-surgical infection in yourselves, your loved ones, or your friends. They can be absolutely horrible.

SSIs are still happening. Plus line didn't solve that. If it had, all string would have it. Don't take this as combative, I just have a feeling that triclosan didn't change the world. In the paraphrasing delivery based on Dennis Leary standup-if connecting a monkey to a car battery will cure cancer, black is negative and red is positive.

Just please stop measuring yourselves on the insane amount of money you make on products that really might not work and could be causing more harm than good.

We appreciate your jobs and need you sometimes but please stop pretending we need you in everyone of our cases and bothering our staff. If it is proven and it is needed, trust me, we'll call you in a heart beat.

To those who run these companies, the scrubs your reps wear into the hospitals and then come in our cases probably contribute more to SSIs then spending millions on adding chemicals to string. Please mandate appropriate attire. We adhere to it, so should they.

 

[Anonymous]

SSIs are still happening. Plus line didn't solve that. If it had, all string would have it. Don't take this as combative, I just have a feeling that triclosan didn't change the world. In the paraphrasing delivery based on Dennis Leary standup-if connecting a monkey to a car battery will cure cancer, black is negative and red is positive.

Just please stop measuring yourselves on the insane amount of money you make on products that really might not work and could be causing more harm than good.

We appreciate your jobs and need you sometimes but please stop pretending we need you in everyone of our cases and bothering our staff. If it is proven and it is needed, trust me, we'll call you in a heart beat.

To those who run these companies, the scrubs your reps wear into the hospitals and then come in our cases probably contribute more to SSIs then spending millions on adding chemicals to string. Please mandate appropriate attire. We adhere to it, so should they.

It's true- we wear scrubs to the hospital. My experience has been that we change into your scrubs prior to the case. If you're seeing reps not changing, then ask them to change. Don't just complain about it- that's an easy fix.

 

[Anonymous]

SSIs are still happening. Plus line didn't solve that. If it had, all string would have it. Don't take this as combative, I just have a feeling that triclosan didn't change the world. In the paraphrasing delivery based on Dennis Leary standup-if connecting a monkey to a car battery will cure cancer, black is negative and red is positive.

Just please stop measuring yourselves on the insane amount of money you make on products that really might not work and could be causing more harm than good.

We appreciate your jobs and need you sometimes but please stop pretending we need you in everyone of our cases and bothering our staff. If it is proven and it is needed, trust me, we'll call you in a heart beat.

To those who run these companies, the scrubs your reps wear into the hospitals and then come in our cases probably contribute more to SSIs then spending millions on adding chemicals to string. Please mandate appropriate attire. We adhere to it, so should they.

Sounds like your staff isn't assertive enough to enforce your own policies.....are they serving the coffee in the OR too without saying a word?
It has been my experience that the sales reps DO AS THEY ARE TOLD when they are in the OR's so clearly, they are not being told in your facility......engage and more importantly, empower your OR staff! They are, after all, the patients' advocates for safety while in the hospital!!