Top outside sellers are NOT in the pharmaceutical industry.

[anonymous]

From your favorite source of information (google) )), morons:

"Petroleum is predominantly present in medical supplies. Anything plastic, for example, is made from petrochemicals. It's used for packaging, in medical devices and supplies, and more. Pharmaceuticals represent about 3% of petrochemical use but almost 99% of pharmaceuticals contain petrochemicals."

And it is much worse than that, when you consider the chemicals used.

And most of you think cholesterol is still bad for you.

Clueless. Morons. Going nowhere in life.

Carry on.

 

[anonymous]

Another observation that most of you are missing here is the inversion of reality in the corporate world, where men have to act very cowardly, and women are encouraged to act very aggressive.

This goes against human nature, and is another strong reason to avoid corporate sales.

Also, I would add that the lack of leadership opportunities in sales is evident, with the lack of integrity and deceit to get ahead or to get the sale.

Now, into my 50s, I STRONGLY believe that sales is for losers and people that just don't have the intelligence to explore a better way of living, instead chasing a dollar that has no organic value.

 

[anonymous]

Another observation that most of you are missing here is the inversion of reality in the corporate world, where men have to act very cowardly, and women are encouraged to act very aggressive.

This goes against human nature, and is another strong reason to avoid corporate sales.

Also, I would add that the lack of leadership opportunities in sales is evident, with the lack of integrity and deceit to get ahead or to get the sale.

Now, into my 50s, I STRONGLY believe that sales is for losers and people that just don't have the intelligence to explore a better way of living, instead chasing a dollar that has no organic value.

Great post man.

One of the issues I am having lately is just how nasty the business world has become. Perhaps it has always been that way, and my positive attitude just blocked out the jerks in the past. However, as I age, I just see the sadness and stress that this job brings. I am glad I have about 3 years left before I retire. The younger generation lacks respect, the doctors are just clueless because their education has been overtaken by the pharmaceutical/medical device industry, and the management is dysfunctional and lacking vision.

 

[anonymous]

All of the above are correct.

Also, one of the overlooked bad aspects of this job is all the energy you expend PHYSICALLY.

The driving, the in and out of the car, the traffic, all of that is not fun. If you are in a cold weather area, you are dealing with ice, and rain and other crap. If you are in a warm weather area, you are dealing with bad drivers and stress on the roads. Even areas like Phoenix have extreme weather with all the heat. It is not healthy to be fighting those things on a day to day basis. Add all the emails, voicemails, and you have a TERRIBLE JOB/CAREER.

Deny it all you want, but this is not a good way to live.

 

[anonymous]

The one thing that really upsets me the most is how this industry just disposes of top producers and downsizes people, year after year...despite making BILLIONS. Its beyond evil.

Those of you that continue to defend this industry need to seek some professional help for the lack of nutrients going to your brain.

 

[anonymous]

The one thing that really upsets me the most is how this industry just disposes of top producers and downsizes people, year after year...despite making BILLIONS. Its beyond evil.

Those of you that continue to defend this industry need to seek some professional help for the lack of nutrients going to your brain.

So you come back and try to save face by pretending to be several people in a bunch of posts. Give it up. We know it is you. You got kicked out of pharma because you just couldn’t cut it. Grow up. Stick to menial retail and/or fast food jobs because that is all you can handle.

 

[anonymous]

The top salespeople are basically business owners, making millions year after year.

My friend owns a public utility company and makes about 5M a year, and works about 20 hours a week these days, doing occasional conference calls with his company.

This is the reality of life.

Most people in this industry took the easy way out, selling medication that does not even promote health. Just as bad, is how people think they are sharp at business, making 150k-300K in these jobs, and think that is so great. Stupid. Worse, they hand over their retirement money to a manager that doesn't have their best interest in mind. Just suckers from birth to death. No clue about how life really works, or how the wealthy truly reach the pinnacle of success.

Keep working for that corporate wristwatch. Have fun at that. And make sure you set your alarm clock because god forbid you are late for your field ride with your 30 year old manager.

 

[anonymous]

The top salespeople are basically business owners, making millions year after year.

My friend owns a public utility company and makes about 5M a year, and works about 20 hours a week these days, doing occasional conference calls with his company.

This is the reality of life.

Most people in this industry took the easy way out, selling medication that does not even promote health. Just as bad, is how people think they are sharp at business, making 150k-300K in these jobs, and think that is so great. Stupid. Worse, they hand over their retirement money to a manager that doesn't have their best interest in mind. Just suckers from birth to death. No clue about how life really works, or how the wealthy truly reach the pinnacle of success.

Keep working for that corporate wristwatch. Have fun at that. And make sure you set your alarm clock because god forbid you are late for your field ride with your 30 year old manager.

65% of businesses will go bankrupt in 10 years. That number also doesn’t include those that just get by will a modest profit. The vast majority of people lack the skills to run a business successfully. People like you that could never cut it in pharma sales would clearly fail in trying to succeed on your own. Pharma is an easy gig that pays well. People can earn a nice living doing this work and still try to see if they can make money with a side gig and not take any risk. Your posts are horrible and show that you have minimal knowledge and skills. Instead, you seem bent on trying to make yourself feel better by putting down pharma as some kind of revenge for getting the boot. Instead, you should focus on trying to fix your problems versus trying to preach to others.

 

[anonymous]

65% of businesses will go bankrupt in 10 years. That number also doesn’t include those that just get by will a modest profit. The vast majority of people lack the skills to run a business successfully. People like you that could never cut it in pharma sales would clearly fail in trying to succeed on your own. Pharma is an easy gig that pays well. People can earn a nice living doing this work and still try to see if they can make money with a side gig and not take any risk. Your posts are horrible and show that you have minimal knowledge and skills. Instead, you seem bent on trying to make yourself feel better by putting down pharma as some kind of revenge for getting the boot. Instead, you should focus on trying to fix your problems versus trying to preach to others.

Keep punching that corporate clock buddy. Good for you. )). Don't be late for the conference room role play either.

 

[anonymous]

Keep punching that corporate clock buddy. Good for you. )). Don't be late for the conference room role play either.

Instead of spending your time posting more idiotic posts, you should be out looking for a job. You are not getting back into pharma after getting cast out. You might have to go back to a fast food job like you had in high school.

 

[anonymous]

***The Data.
Pseudo Science.
Also, the 2020 crisis really showed who runs this industry, and they are not your friends or the friends of humanity. Not even close.

Ok Bernie Sanders.

 

[anonymous]

Instead of spending your time posting more idiotic posts, you should be out looking for a job. You are not getting back into pharma after getting cast out. You might have to go back to a fast food job like you had in high school.

Nobody wants to "get back into pharma". That is why they recruit college so hard.

Are you really that dense?

Don't forget to set your alarm clock for the 8 am conference call tomorrow. I don't punch a clock, like most of you. That is why I retired at 49.

 

[anonymous]

Nobody wants to "get back into pharma". That is why they recruit college so hard.

Are you really that dense?

Don't forget to set your alarm clock for the 8 am conference call tomorrow. I don't punch a clock, like most of you. That is why I retired at 49.

Clearly you don’t know what you are talking about as most companies don’t recruit straight out of college. Getting kicked out is not really being “retired” and neither is living at home with your parents (as you admitted to on the other thread).

 

[anonymous]

Clearly you don’t know what you are talking about as most companies don’t recruit straight out of college. Getting kicked out is not really being “retired” and neither is living at home with your parents (as you admitted to on the other thread).

Check your notes, Sparky.

Nobody is living at home. I retired at about 40.

Don't blame me for being lucky and investing my money correctly, unlike you, a person that sets an alarm clock and punches the ticket to get your money.

 

[anonymous]

Check your notes, Sparky.

Nobody is living at home. I retired at about 40.

Don't blame me for being lucky and investing my money correctly, unlike you, a person that sets an alarm clock and punches the ticket to get your money.

You already admitted in another thread that you are living at home. It is also clear that you are suffering from sour grapes after losing your pharma job. That is why you are still hanging around this board posting your nonsense. You need to focus on fixing your problems instead of bashing those that have been able to cut it.

 

[anonymous]

You already admitted in another thread that you are living at home. It is also clear that you are suffering from sour grapes after losing your pharma job. That is why you are still hanging around this board posting your nonsense. You need to focus on fixing your problems instead of bashing those that have been able to cut it.

You can't read either.

Wow.

No wonder you love this industry, because you can't believe that you can make a living talking to brain washed doctors with your 1st grade education.

 

[anonymous]

You can't read either.

Wow.

No wonder you love this industry, because you can't believe that you can make a living talking to brain washed doctors with your 1st grade education.

We read what you posted, moron. You admitted to living with your parents to save money. It is not surprising. When you lost your pharma job, you had no choice. You need to spend your time trying to fix your problems instead of sitting here making up story after story just to make yourself feel better.

 

[anonymous]

We read what you posted, moron. You admitted to living with your parents to save money. It is not surprising. When you lost your pharma job, you had no choice. You need to spend your time trying to fix your problems instead of sitting here making up story after story just to make yourself feel better.

Nobody loses a job in pharma, your imbecile.

You either get downsized or resort to being an escort for doctors.

The men in this industry are mostly simps. Very weak, corporate guys with no backbone. Like you.

 

[anonymous]

Nobody loses a job in pharma, your imbecile.

You either get downsized or resort to being an escort for doctors.

The men in this industry are mostly simps. Very weak, corporate guys with no backbone. Like you.

People like you get canned every day. It is a simple job, yet you couldn’t cut it. That is why you are sitting on this board bashing those that could make it. You really thought people would fall for a stupid story about someone making it rich in his 40’s that now spends his spare time imparting his pearls of wisdom on the pharma board? Really? Seriously, most people are not as stupid as you. Again - fix your own problems. Get a job and do your mom a favor by getting out of her basement.

 

[anonymous]

Hi there. I am a retired/rich 40 year old real estate investor. I thought I would spend my free time imparting my words of wisdom on a pharmaceutical chat board out of the goodness of my heart. Of course, you will all believe me, right?

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