Tildra Rep gets Banned from a Super Account

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anonymous said:
You are not going to sell any Ilumya in a high powered office if you are nice people. Starbucks alone will not cut the market. Time for hand to hand combat. Rudeness or deceit has no place. But hard selling is needed, otherwise you will fail. If she was thrown out for doing her job, and the office is in the pocket of another company, then good for her for the effort. Many of the KOLs in derm are a-holes and sometimes they can use a reminder. You only need 10 prime offices to make a solid territory. Safe to assume that this office will not be one of her ten. Cannot win them all. Probably went down by listening to a tactic passed on by her manager.
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Well stated 100% agree!
 












anonymous said:
You are not going to sell any Ilumya in a high powered office if you are nice people. Starbucks alone will not cut the market. Time for hand to hand combat. Rudeness or deceit has no place. But hard selling is needed, otherwise you will fail. If she was thrown out for doing her job, and the office is in the pocket of another company, then good for her for the effort. Many of the KOLs in derm are a-holes and sometimes they can use a reminder. You only need 10 prime offices to make a solid territory. Safe to assume that this office will not be one of her ten. Cannot win them all. Probably went down by listening to a tactic passed on by her manager.
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This is so Abhay-speak !
Great insights from someone whose never made a call in the world’s largest Pharma market.
#trollingceo
 
























Encouraging to know Sun reps are getting hired with other companies. I’ve had no luck and have been looking since launch delay. Afraid that Sun hurt resume.
NO BS comments please. We are all in same boat.
Let’s start motivational and encouraging thread about who is hiring. We all have different territories so none competing for jobs.
 






anonymous said:
Encouraging to know Sun reps are getting hired with other companies. I’ve had no luck and have been looking since launch delay. Afraid that Sun hurt resume.
NO BS comments please. We are all in same boat.
Let’s start motivational and encouraging thread about who is hiring. We all have different territories so none competing for jobs.
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AbbVie is hiring. Sun did a good job selling IL-23. Now you have a chance to sell a product that is actually available and can be acquired by the patient. Move fast. SKY will launch in a month or so.
 


















anonymous said:
Encouraging to know Sun reps are getting hired with other companies. I’ve had no luck and have been looking since launch delay. Afraid that Sun hurt resume.
NO BS comments please. We are all in same boat.
Let’s start motivational and encouraging thread about who is hiring. We all have different territories so none competing for jobs.
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Unfortunately most companies only take a few from each so they don’t get sued. Good luck to all. Pray Suns sells this to a bio company looking to break into biologics. It’s the only fix now.
 






anonymous said:
Is there any truth to this? Word is she pissed off the whole office and was told to never come back. If this is a super account, I am sure that screwed up her launch, I would've thrown in the towel by now if that were me. How ignorant can someone be to get banned from an office?
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Of course YOU would have thrown in the towel by now bc you clearly have no spine and let accounts run all over you....grow
a pair.

First off there are 3 great reps in Dallas....and not one of them has left OR been fired. I know the office the OP is talking about. The doctor is a complete arrogant dick, a money whore by speaking for EVERY Bio company, and his staff thinks they are entitled. I HATE offices like this and wouldn’t call on this one if I had it. NO Rep selling any product in Derm should be subjected to the kind of abuse this office doles out to reps. What would be the smarter idea is for all the Derm Reps to get together and boycott this account altogether. I’m SICK of hearing crap about this account over the years and I don’t even LIVE in TX. Personally I think a total boycott would show this asshole account who is REALLY in control.
 
























anonymous said:
Of course YOU would have thrown in the towel by now bc you clearly have no spine and let accounts run all over you....grow
a pair.

First off there are 3 great reps in Dallas....and not one of them has left OR been fired. I know the office the OP is talking about. The doctor is a complete arrogant dick, a money whore by speaking for EVERY Bio company, and his staff thinks they are entitled. I HATE offices like this and wouldn’t call on this one if I had it. NO Rep selling any product in Derm should be subjected to the kind of abuse this office doles out to reps. What would be the smarter idea is for all the Derm Reps to get together and boycott this account altogether. I’m SICK of hearing crap about this account over the years and I don’t even LIVE in TX. Personally I think a total boycott would show this asshole account who is REALLY in control.
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I have a doc/office like this in my territory. There are always those docs that egos think they are God. Office staff follows lead and it can be a demoralizing shit show if you let it. I do my thing and if I’m treated disrespectfully I don’t go back. No excuse for abuse. I tell my RSM and if it’s a big issue then give account to someone else. Most of these docs are spreaders and aren’t going to be top writers anyway. Sorry that $800 lunch where you give me 3 minutes of distracted attention and hearing the 1 staff member complain that their vegan/gluten free lunch is not to their liking is not worth it.
These accounts know they have us by the balls basically. A total boycott would be great but will never happen unfortunately.
I’d totally support Trump banning lunches as it could be viewed as a bribe or whatever. Sick of these lunches and being given the office’s “seasonal” Starbucks order list. Spoiled offices thanks to pharma!
 






anonymous said:
Encouraging to know Sun reps are getting hired with other companies. I’ve had no luck and have been looking since launch delay. Afraid that Sun hurt resume.
NO BS comments please. We are all in same boat.
Let’s start motivational and encouraging thread about who is hiring. We all have different territories so none competing for jobs.
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I think it all comes down to direction given by hiring manager. Don’t think there is a ban on Sun reps or stigma but could be wrong. I’ve seen a lot of Sun reps get hired and happy for them. Several went to Evolus I saw.
 






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