Thought Leader Liaison

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Anonymous said:
Sales job. No where close to an MSL level job
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Not a sales job, but also not a MSL. More of a field based marketing position. TLLs have greater access to some customers because they are not in sales, this is where the job is similar to MSL. Bonus is corporate not a sales bonus. TLLs manage speakers and speaker programs, conduct business in conjunction with sales, training, marketing, public relations and several other depts. TLLs also attend clinical meetings and report back to sales and marketing. MSLs at Genentech have a firewall between sales and marketing and their only interactions with sales is to answer off label questions that come in from physicians.
 


















Anonymous said:
Sales job. No where close to an MSL level job
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Look, do not seek the TLL job unless you have credentials. Guaranteed you will be shown the door the end of 16' if you do not have a "D" degree. FDA is aware of these bogus jobs and are putting the hammer down. Other companies have already made the change and we are not far behind. Do your homework before posting or apply for a
sales job.
 






anonymous said:
Look, do not seek the TLL job unless you have credentials. Guaranteed you will be shown the door the end of 16' if you do not have a "D" degree. FDA is aware of these bogus jobs and are putting the hammer down. Other companies have already made the change and we are not far behind. Do your homework before posting or apply for a
sales job.
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Uh? What are you talking about? Yes you need to be qualified but this job is not a "medical degree job". Not bogus jobs, separated from sales, tons of travel. Previous poster nailed the job description.
 






anonymous said:
Uh? What are you talking about? Yes you need to be qualified but this job is not a "medical degree job". Not bogus jobs, separated from sales, tons of travel. Previous poster nailed the job description.
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Yes and RIPE for RIF in 2016 pal. ROaCHE is ran by fiance dudes and this is the kind of overhear they deplore and despise sucking up travel budget already cut to the bone.
 






TLL role at Novocure is outright joke!

They "think" they're above the Territory Managers, but ALL of us laugh at them...

They sell just like we do; they just make a bunch less.
 
























Trying to figure out why the FDA allows these Thought Leader Liaison jobs. The TLL's seem to be way outside basic compliance guidelines and use "marketing research" as an excuse to "buy access" to top thought leaders and engage in off-label discussions/promotional activities...Does anyone know if the FDA is going to do something?
 






anonymous said:
Trying to figure out why the FDA allows these Thought Leader Liaison jobs. The TLL's seem to be way outside basic compliance guidelines and use "marketing research" as an excuse to "buy access" to top thought leaders and engage in off-label discussions/promotional activities...Does anyone know if the FDA is going to do something?
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It's all legit, so go away troll. The TL's that we engage with give us insight so that we can get realistic info to feed up to marketing. It is valuable information. Too bad there aren't more TLL's, it would be worth it.
 






anonymous said:
It's all legit, so go away troll. The TL's that we engage with give us insight so that we can get realistic info to feed up to marketing. It is valuable information. Too bad there aren't more TLL's, it would be worth it.
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Hello DNA troll. Pharma marketing is a joke. Many people go there from the field for 18 months to check the box for the next assignment. Hard to make changes when you do not want to rock the boat to get the next promotion from Big Pharma. Some are new MBA's who think they know everything about marketing but never spent "real" time in the field.

You have been extremely fortunate to have life changing products that do not need massive marketing...In case you did not know it's all about the product and portfolio.

Bazel is wondering what type of return of their money they are getting from SSF headquarters/marketing. Changes are a commin...
 






anonymous said:
Trying to figure out why the FDA allows these Thought Leader Liaison jobs. The TLL's seem to be way outside basic compliance guidelines and use "marketing research" as an excuse to "buy access" to top thought leaders and engage in off-label discussions/promotional activities...Does anyone know if the FDA is going to do something?
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TLLs are on label just like reps. There are very strict legal guidelines at Genentech and most other companies that TLLs stay on label. Also not sure what you are talking about with “buying”access, TLLs don’t pay physicians anything, most don’t even buy them meals.
 












180-210k but you go on corporate bonus so possible to make less than a rep. Definitely a promotion and higher level than the rep job. Unfortunately most reps don’t understand the role so it’s hard to work with them.
 












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