THE STUPID, LAZY SWISS DOLTS HAVE KILLED OUR COMPANY.

It is basicly dead, like every other thing they touch.

People like yourself need to leave the company and industry as well. Lets face it, your the lazy ass and misfit which doesn't belong here. Your company doesn't believe in hard work, and it's been a known fact. They were een featured on tv about their low key culture, especially in the home office in CA.
Keep this in mind, now and forever, you will never mount to anything. When you go to bed at night, remember this.
 






People like yourself need to leave the company and industry as well. Lets face it, your the lazy ass and misfit which doesn't belong here. Your company doesn't believe in hard work, and it's been a known fact. They were een featured on tv about their low key culture, especially in the home office in CA.
Keep this in mind, now and forever, you will never mount to anything. When you go to bed at night, remember this.

I agree with this. GENENTECH has a reputation for milking their co-promotes. I ought to know, we've dealt with them from OSI.
 






I look at it this way and encourage you to do the same. I was displaced as a result of organizational changes. I miss working for Roche/Genentech. My job was not the most challenging at times, but I loved what I did and who I worked with. Change isn't fun, but it is inevitable. Count your blessings that you had the amazing run that you did before Genentech was bought out. Count your blessings that you are still part of the organization today, have job security and purpose. While I don't agree with everything that has come out of Basel, I think they have done a better job than most in the pharma/biotech industry & act more responsibly than most.
 






I recently started working for Roche, after spending several years working for a National Lab with brilliant ex-colleagues that are Physicists, Mathematicians and Computer Scientists.

My honest opinion of Roche's scientists: I have NEVER seen such dumb people in my entire career working at any other place. Every place has both good and bad employees skills wise, but Roche managed to keep the dumbest of the dumb around. No kidding! How did they do it?? Their scientists have such worthless, outdated skills, and it makes perfect sense as to why they cannot sustain any intelligent company they take-over. They simply do not even have average IQ'ed scientists to conduct the science!!

Apparently, one doesn't need to be smart to make money. Heck, that's one life's lesson learnt for me.

It's only been a couple months that I have been at Roche, and I feel that I sold my soul to work with these people all for nothing. And if I stayed here long enough, my brain will atrophy and I will surely become dumb like their in-house employees.

I will be looking to either go back to the national lab, or find a competent company to work for very soon.
 












Just a few corrections for you.

Genentech did have an international effort which stopped when Roche provided the funding to purchase 57% of Genentech Stock. Roche bought Genentech with Genentech money. If not for Genentech products, Roche would not exist today. They had shrunk to virtually nothing in the US because they could not sell Genentech products here in the US. Look at the percentage of Roche total sales that were from GENENTECH products world wide prior to the full purchase. Roche was rich and that is all.
 






I recently started working for Roche, after spending several years working for a National Lab with brilliant ex-colleagues that are Physicists, Mathematicians and Computer Scientists.

My honest opinion of Roche's scientists: I have NEVER seen such dumb people in my entire career working at any other place. Every place has both good and bad employees skills wise, but Roche managed to keep the dumbest of the dumb around. No kidding! How did they do it?? Their scientists have such worthless, outdated skills, and it makes perfect sense as to why they cannot sustain any intelligent company they take-over. They simply do not even have average IQ'ed scientists to conduct the science!!

Apparently, one doesn't need to be smart to make money. Heck, that's one life's lesson learnt for me.

It's only been a couple months that I have been at Roche, and I feel that I sold my soul to work with these people all for nothing. And if I stayed here long enough, my brain will atrophy and I will surely become dumb like their in-house employees.

I will be looking to either go back to the national lab, or find a competent company to work for very soon.

Hmmm.....based on the information you have provided, I am sure I know who you are. I can arrange to have you work for another company that more closely matches your skill set. I'll get right on it.

Sincerely,
Your Manager
 












Just a few corrections for you.

Genentech did have an international effort which stopped when Roche provided the funding to purchase 57% of Genentech Stock. Roche bought Genentech with Genentech money. If not for Genentech products, Roche would not exist today. They had shrunk to virtually nothing in the US because they could not sell Genentech products here in the US. Look at the percentage of Roche total sales that were from GENENTECH products world wide prior to the full purchase. Roche was rich and that is all.

OK, so you started history a little further along :) 30 years ago Genentech was a tiny company with a single drug called nutropin, which was discovered in someones garage. Genentech had no money and needed a sugar daddy to keep them afloat, so that they could become sort of a research institution rather than a business.

Along came the "Swiss Dolts" Roche, who took a huge risk, and provided ALL of the funding, in fact 16-17 years ago Roche owned 100% of the Genentech stock (Im sure there was a caveat), although Genentech remained independent, it was essentially a subsidiary of Roche. Then as that investment began to payoff huge (in terms of stock price), Roche sold 51% of the 100% of the stock for a huge profit.

You see, genentech was just like every other small drug company with great ideas and not commercial viabilty; they had great ideas, but Roche took on ALL of the financial risk. So you see, you have things twisted around, without Roche (or some other big monied sugar daddy) taking on 100% of the risk for this small insignificant company to simply researchdrugs, there would not Genentech would have withered on the vine. They would have been forced to sell themselves to someone else.

What you are sayong is analguous to a a woman working two jobs, while putting he spouse through medical school. He is given the freedom and space to attend school, study, and not worry about keeping shelter, food, and clothing; the wife believes in her man, and assumes all risk and responsibility. After 8 years of schooling and residency etc, the husband eventually becomes a high flying plastic surgeon and leaves his wife. The wife demand and receives 50% or more of his income, and half of everthing that was purchsed by the ex-husband. The ungrateful husband complains that its not fair, afterall he has paid for everything, and he works hard for every dollar; "my wife is not the one working 18 hours a day, in order to make these millions per year".

Well Mr. Surgeon, had it not been for your ex-wife, you wouldn't have "jack sihit". Same goes for the former entity called Genentech, which no longer exists; Roche paid for GEnentech to simply go to school and not worry about money. Roche money enabled Genentech to assume research risk, and chase after obscure hypothesis' that ultimately paid off. Roche money allowed Genentech to simply worry about research, and not commercial viabilty. You see, without Roche there is no Avastin, or any other drug after Nutropin; without Roche money, Genetech would have died long before it did.

Lets keep it real now, please lets just keep it real!
 






OK, so you started history a little further along :) 30 years ago Genentech was a tiny company with a single drug called nutropin, which was discovered in someones garage. Genentech had no money and needed a sugar daddy to keep them afloat, so that they could become sort of a research institution rather than a business.

Along came the "Swiss Dolts" Roche, who took a huge risk, and provided ALL of the funding, in fact 16-17 years ago Roche owned 100% of the Genentech stock (Im sure there was a caveat), although Genentech remained independent, it was essentially a subsidiary of Roche. Then as that investment began to payoff huge (in terms of stock price), Roche sold 51% of the 100% of the stock for a huge profit.

You see, genentech was just like every other small drug company with great ideas and not commercial viabilty; they had great ideas, but Roche took on ALL of the financial risk. So you see, you have things twisted around, without Roche (or some other big monied sugar daddy) taking on 100% of the risk for this small insignificant company to simply researchdrugs, there would not Genentech would have withered on the vine. They would have been forced to sell themselves to someone else.

What you are sayong is analguous to a a woman working two jobs, while putting he spouse through medical school. He is given the freedom and space to attend school, study, and not worry about keeping shelter, food, and clothing; the wife believes in her man, and assumes all risk and responsibility. After 8 years of schooling and residency etc, the husband eventually becomes a high flying plastic surgeon and leaves his wife. The wife demand and receives 50% or more of his income, and half of everthing that was purchsed by the ex-husband. The ungrateful husband complains that its not fair, afterall he has paid for everything, and he works hard for every dollar; "my wife is not the one working 18 hours a day, in order to make these millions per year".

Well Mr. Surgeon, had it not been for your ex-wife, you wouldn't have "jack sihit". Same goes for the former entity called Genentech, which no longer exists; Roche paid for GEnentech to simply go to school and not worry about money. Roche money enabled Genentech to assume research risk, and chase after obscure hypothesis' that ultimately paid off. Roche money allowed Genentech to simply worry about research, and not commercial viabilty. You see, without Roche there is no Avastin, or any other drug after Nutropin; without Roche money, Genetech would have died long before it did.

Lets keep it real now, please lets just keep it real!

You expect anyone to read your shit?
 






You expect anyone to read your shit?

I read this shit and its pretty accurate and to the point. Roche took over Genentech 5 yrs ago, yet you are still crying about how unfair life is. Didn't you learn anything growing up? If you sell a part of yourself, you sell a part of your soul. Blame your Genentech leaders who eventually agreed to the buyout. They sold you Genentech folks out for a tidy sum for themselves and now your left whining about the Swiss.

Get over it and stop crying like a plastic surgeon who's crying "this is not fair."
 






You can call it anything you want. This culture is shit and those of us from the "old Genentech" know how bad this place has become. I want out. Any early ship jumpers starting up somewhere else?
 






You can call it anything you want. This culture is shit and those of us from the "old Genentech" know how bad this place has become. I want out. Any early ship jumpers starting up somewhere else?

You are right...you should get out. In fact, we'd love to help you pack to hasten your departure. Don't go away mad, just go away. You deserve to move to a company where the culture praises your attitude.

By the way, did anyone ever find out where this guy could buy some shares of Genentech stock?
 






Amen. You spoiled brats need yo leave and see what life is out in the real world. You would be happy and crying yo come back to the horrible Swiss. You really believe that culture rap your old management gave you years ago? They took it to a big payout and adios.
 






I did not read your entire post since you were incorrect in many points. The drug Genentech started with was called PROTROPIN and is not the same as Nutropin. Get it right if you are going to argue. Genentech had money, just not enough to develop ALL of the great drugs they had in research. Roche had nothing but money. Old products, poor research, and an ancient family that owned the place without a clue how to proceed. Franz Hummer had it right when he said while at Genentech one day, "We can't mess this up". He was the last real leader at Roche with vision. In the US, Roche became a joke and was in the process of dumping people right and left. No new drugs to sell as they were all Genentech products and Roche could not sell them in the US. Can you tell me what was the highest sales Roche had in the US and what was the number before they bought Genentech?
 






Hmmm.....based on the information you have provided, I am sure I know who you are. I can arrange to have you work for another company that more closely matches your skill set. I'll get right on it.

Sincerely,
Your Manager

Nah - don't bother. My manager EXACTLY knows how I feel about this company, because I already told him. At this point, it's more like: who needs who? And I don't need them.

Thanks for your help. My ex-manager at the national lab will gladly take me back anytime.
 






Nah - don't bother. My manager EXACTLY knows how I feel about this company, because I already told him. At this point, it's more like: who needs who? And I don't need them.

Thanks for your help. My ex-manager at the national lab will gladly take me back anytime.

Your post just reminded me about your negative attitude. No need for you to apply here. I got enough of your bitching. It's so nice not having your negativity around here poisoning the atmosphere.

Sincerely,
Your Ex Manager
 






Your post just reminded me about your negative attitude. No need for you to apply here. I got enough of your bitching. It's so nice not having your negativity around here poisoning the atmosphere.

Sincerely,
Your Ex Manager

Oh please everyone knows that the CA laid back culture is what has been bringing this company down. Oh and the awful Roche pipeline they brought over. Bito, Metmab, Dalcetripib, on and on. Not a happy marriage, people are leaving in droves.
 






I did not read your entire post since you were incorrect in many points. The drug Genentech started with was called PROTROPIN and is not the same as Nutropin. Get it right if you are going to argue. Genentech had money, just not enough to develop ALL of the great drugs they had in research. Roche had nothing but money. Old products, poor research, and an ancient family that owned the place without a clue how to proceed. Franz Hummer had it right when he said while at Genentech one day, "We can't mess this up". He was the last real leader at Roche with vision. In the US, Roche became a joke and was in the process of dumping people right and left. No new drugs to sell as they were all Genentech products and Roche could not sell them in the US. Can you tell me what was the highest sales Roche had in the US and what was the number before they bought Genentech?

OK, I stand corrected, genentech only a single drug which was HGH but not nutropin; changes nothing, but you made my point; genentech had great ideas, with NO money! On your question about annual sales, the question is silly, since Roche has effectively bankrolled, and owned Genentech since 1990 at the earliest. The real question is at the time of Roche's invest what were Genenetch sales, vs. Roche? Roche was significantly higher.

At the end of the day, it appears to me that you do not know the entire history of GNE. Below is a link to Genentech history on our own website:

http://www.gene.com/about-us/investors/historical-stock-info


As you can see, Roche has pretty much owned us since 1990,we became aNYSE traded company in 1985. So, when did all these great drugs hit the market? Hmm, I think all since 1990 right? Thats right, GNE has been an independent entity of Roche since 1990, read the timeline below and weep! Cant argue with history, my jeans wearing brother. Stop acting like the "divorced surgeon", who "did this all by himself". Roche money and commercial partnership played a massive role in the former entity called GNE, the proof is in the history. You can neither argue with NOR change that!

October 14, 1980
Initial Public Offering (IPO)
1,000,000 shares offered at $35.00
Genentech stock trades on NASDAQ under symbol GENE

March 2, 1988
Genentech stock begins trading on the NYSE under the symbol GNE

September 7, 1990
Genentech and Roche Merger approved by stockholders
Each share of Genentech Common Stock (CUSIP 368 710 109) is exchanged for $18 in cash plus one-half share of Genentech Redeemable Common Stock (CUSIP 368 710 208)

October 25, 1995
Genentech stockholders approve Roche's extended buyout option
Each share of Genentech Redeemable Common Stock (CUSIP 368 710 208) is exchanged for one share of Genentech Callable Putable Common Stock (also known as Genentech Special Common Stock - CUSIP 368 710 307)

June 14, 1999
Roche exercises its Call Option for all outstanding shares of Genentech Special Common Stock - redemption date set for June 30, 1999

June 30, 1999
Genentech redeems its Special Common Stock
Each share of Genentech Special Common Stock (CUSIP 368 710 307) is exchanged for $82.50 in cash (except for those shares held by Roche)

July 19, 1999
Roche sells shares of Genentech Common Stock in a Public Offering
22,000,000 shares offered at $97.00
Genentech stock begins trading on NYSE on July 20, 1999 under the symbol DNA (CUSIP 368 710 406).

October 20, 1999
Roche sells shares of Genentech Common Stock in a Public Offering
20,000,000 shares offered at $143.50; shares begin trading on NYSE on October 21, 1999.

November 2, 1999
Payable date of 2-for-1 stock split

March 26, 2009
Roche acquires all of Genentech Common Stock (CUSIP 368 710 406) at $95 per share. Last day of trading of Genentech Common Stock.
 






I did not read your entire post since you were incorrect in many points. The drug Genentech started with was called PROTROPIN and is not the same as Nutropin. Get it right if you are going to argue. Genentech had money, just not enough to develop ALL of the great drugs they had in research. Roche had nothing but money. Old products, poor research, and an ancient family that owned the place without a clue how to proceed. Franz Hummer had it right when he said while at Genentech one day, "We can't mess this up". He was the last real leader at Roche with vision. In the US, Roche became a joke and was in the process of dumping people right and left. No new drugs to sell as they were all Genentech products and Roche could not sell them in the US. Can you tell me what was the highest sales Roche had in the US and what was the number before they bought Genentech?

Maybe you should also read this link below. It speaks of the struggles of Genentech, and its need for a strategic partnership. You will see reference to giant pharma aiding tiny biotech, in forming strategic parnership. You will also note that this was a collaborative relationship. Again, read and weep.

http://books.google.com.do/books?id...EwAA#v=onepage&q=roche genentech 2000&f=false