The stock price

Opened the week under $35. WSJ says Pfizer Covid boost is over. What is leadership doing with the billions pocketed during the pandemic boom days?
The Journal article says Pfizer was “showered” with pandemic sales and now the end of the crisis is “dragging the drug maker down”. I don’t agree.

what is dragging PFE down is the lack of a cogent plan to grow the company and related shareholder value. What company has EVER booked this much in short term unforecasted sales and cannot show any long term value gain? The board has to be corrupt to overlook this sorry performance
 












Sorry, I invest in JnJ, NovoNordisk,Lilly….pfizer stock hasn’t performed well in years despite making millions?/billion off of Covid. Paid way too much for Biohaven
Your buys are certainly smarter growth investments than PFE. It seems the only investor play for Pfizer is for dividends or to speculate on what company they overpay for next.
Perhaps our stock will go up some when the Fed slows rate increases and interest rates moderate. Our stock growth is unlikely to come from any sort of business strategy conjured up in NY. Still waiting for the magic dust mentioned by the CFO when we don’t hit the Covid sales again.
 






The Journal article says Pfizer was “showered” with pandemic sales and now the end of the crisis is “dragging the drug maker down”. I don’t agree.

what is dragging PFE down is the lack of a cogent plan to grow the company and related shareholder value. What company has EVER booked this much in short term unforecasted sales and cannot show any long term value gain? The board has to be corrupt to overlook this sorry performance
hey they have a plan, focus on DEI and LGBT+ initiatives!
 
























If someone can show me how ESG focus can grow our stock value, I’m reading. From what I see, companies best thrive when they have a sound business strategy that is well understood by employees, public and investors. Those companies have leadership focused on building strategies that meld short term and long term results. Even then, an overly strong focus on non-business centric ESG or other so called “woke” initiatives can cause distraction from the purpose of the business enterprise.

Through our P/E, I don’t see our leaders drive a productive strategy or inspire investor confidence. Investors have multitudes of options to earn a return on their dollars and we simply don’t have the record or forward looking plan to be trusted with their dollars.
 






If someone can show me how ESG focus can grow our stock value, I’m reading. From what I see, companies best thrive when they have a sound business strategy that is well understood by employees, public and investors. Those companies have leadership focused on building strategies that meld short term and long term results. Even then, an overly strong focus on non-business centric ESG or other so called “woke” initiatives can cause distraction from the purpose of the business enterprise.

Through our P/E, I don’t see our leaders drive a productive strategy or inspire investor confidence. Investors have multitudes of options to earn a return on their dollars and we simply don’t have the record or forward looking plan to be trusted with their dollars.
exactly right, that's where this company os focused, ESG, DEI...not growing the business...only reason investors buy our stock is for dividends
 






If someone can show me how ESG focus can grow our stock value, I’m reading. From what I see, companies best thrive when they have a sound business strategy that is well understood by employees, public and investors. Those companies have leadership focused on building strategies that meld short term and long term results. Even then, an overly strong focus on non-business centric ESG or other so called “woke” initiatives can cause distraction from the purpose of the business enterprise.

Through our P/E, I don’t see our leaders drive a productive strategy or inspire investor confidence. Investors have multitudes of options to earn a return on their dollars and we simply don’t have the record or forward looking plan to be trusted with their dollars.

I am convinced that you sheeple get paid every time you post "woke", or tie some company's negative trajectory on some made-up, BS, fake-ass initiative (in this case, DEI). The bottom line for two decades is this: we were fortunate to have great products that turned into mega blockbusters. Because our pipeline needed support, we bought Parke Davis and later Pharmacia/Upjohn. We would be sucking pond water if it wasn't for Upjohn's Celebrex and oncology meds, and Parke Davis' Lipitor.

Check out our stock prices since, oh, maybe 2004, 2005. Before you sheeple learned the term 'woke' and badly co-opted it. 2004, back when cronyism at HQ ran rampant (anyone remember all the bragging about the "R-gene"?). Most of the senior leadership back then per-walked out of the building, at least one of whom cost us over a billion dollars.
 






I am convinced that you sheeple get paid every time you post "woke", or tie some company's negative trajectory on some made-up, BS, fake-ass initiative (in this case, DEI). The bottom line for two decades is this: we were fortunate to have great products that turned into mega blockbusters. Because our pipeline needed support, we bought Parke Davis and later Pharmacia/Upjohn. We would be sucking pond water if it wasn't for Upjohn's Celebrex and oncology meds, and Parke Davis' Lipitor.

Check out our stock prices since, oh, maybe 2004, 2005. Before you sheeple learned the term 'woke' and badly co-opted it. 2004, back when cronyism at HQ ran rampant (anyone remember all the bragging about the "R-gene"?). Most of the senior leadership back then per-walked out of the building, at least one of whom cost us over a billion dollars.

Wow, I’m not sure of what to do with this. I tread lightly for fear of upsetting an elder. Perhaps reading comprehension is no longer your strong suit.

PFE in 2004 closed around $26, was running around $28 mid year 2004. Now, nearly two decades later, PFE bounces around $36. That is not an impressive return over two decades. Even a S&P index fund would have returned nearly 650%. If I’m missing your point, I apologize.

I stand by my point that Pfizer lacks strategic focus and business outcomes that investors desire. The acquisitions you list may have enriched the most senior leaders and the board, but those same people have not translated any of it into substantial long term growth, regardless of who sits at the top. The stock price over time bears out that investors, institutional or individual, trust better options.
 






Wow, I’m not sure of what to do with this. I tread lightly for fear of upsetting an elder. Perhaps reading comprehension is no longer your strong suit.

PFE in 2004 closed around $26, was running around $28 mid year 2004. Now, nearly two decades later, PFE bounces around $36. That is not an impressive return over two decades. Even a S&P index fund would have returned nearly 650%. If I’m missing your point, I apologize.

I stand by my point that Pfizer lacks strategic focus and business outcomes that investors desire. The acquisitions you list may have enriched the most senior leaders and the board, but those same people have not translated any of it into substantial long term growth, regardless of who sits at the top. The stock price over time bears out that investors, institutional or individual, trust better options.

Strategic Focus... LOL did you learn that term in undergrad? You don't even understand how this company works. It's plan and simple top heavy by design. There are more layers of VPs and GMs than you can count. You do understand that in order for this company to grow like they did some 25 years ago they would need Multiple drugs like the COVID vaccine. MULTIPLE as in 4-5. Not going to happen when you have such a top heavy company. Look back, you keep quoting 2004...go back further... try 1999 when PFE bought Warner Lambert (Parks Davis) who owned Lipitor that was the top. 2004 it was dropping like a rock. We are talking about 2 generations of employees that have been stuck in the stock. The only thing COVID did was give 20 year employees a chance to dump their stock that sat under water for 20 years. Now, employees that came on board pre COVID or during are going to be stuck again for another 20 years. It has nothing to do w/ Strategic FOCUS.. LOL...
 






What gets me is the diminishing access to providers...nationwide. Hospitals and health care conglomerates buying up clinics and individual practices including their patients. The first thing the new owners do is focusing on profitability, which includes a requirement for the practitioner to see a number of patients to see per year, (determined by a manager who has never seen a single patient, and to go up next year by 10%) and a sign on the front door: "NO PHARMACEUTICAL REPS. TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSECUTED".

And you are getting back into your car, wondering what to do for the full week.
 






What gets me is the diminishing access to providers...nationwide. Hospitals and health care conglomerates buying up clinics and individual practices including their patients. The first thing the new owners do is focusing on profitability, which includes a requirement for the practitioner to see a number of patients to see per year, (determined by a manager who has never seen a single patient, and to go up next year by 10%) and a sign on the front door: "NO PHARMACEUTICAL REPS. TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSECUTED".

And you are getting back into your car, wondering what to do for the full week.

These last four posts in this thread are examples of why this site used to be good 15 years ago. Unfortunately for us, they are all correct.
 






Strategic Focus... LOL did you learn that term in undergrad? You don't even understand how this company works. It's plan and simple top heavy by design. There are more layers of VPs and GMs than you can count. You do understand that in order for this company to grow like they did some 25 years ago they would need Multiple drugs like the COVID vaccine. MULTIPLE as in 4-5. Not going to happen when you have such a top heavy company. Look back, you keep quoting 2004...go back further... try 1999 when PFE bought Warner Lambert (Parks Davis) who owned Lipitor that was the top. 2004 it was dropping like a rock. We are talking about 2 generations of employees that have been stuck in the stock. The only thing COVID did was give 20 year employees a chance to dump their stock that sat under water for 20 years. Now, employees that came on board pre COVID or during are going to be stuck again for another 20 years. It has nothing to do w/ Strategic FOCUS.. LOL...

have some pudding and a take a nap.
PFE booked record revenues in 2022 and it appears the only plan is to cut costs and buy assets. I am perfectly fine for that cost cutting to look at the top heavy layers that you reference.

Stock is anchored in the mid $30 range, a few bumps up and retreats back. I am only looking for PFE to communicate their plan to capitalize on record revenues and breakout to new price levels.
 






have some pudding and a take a nap.
PFE booked record revenues in 2022 and it appears the only plan is to cut costs and buy assets. I am perfectly fine for that cost cutting to look at the top heavy layers that you reference.

Stock is anchored in the mid $30 range, a few bumps up and retreats back. I am only looking for PFE to communicate their plan to capitalize on record revenues and breakout to new price levels.

Why don't you do some Strategic Thinking and think about your statement. Record Revenues...is not Record Profit... Do you realize that the yearly 5% price increase on products can give the company record revenues? And, Stock is NOT anchored in the mid $30's it's been in a constant down trend since late 21' on it's way to 30 at minimum...that's if you're lucky. Did they say they were going to look at the "top layers" highly doubtful. This company is like congress voting for term limits...won't happen. They can buy all the companies they want but that is just taking on more weight. PFE dosen't develop drugs, they throw darts and hope I would not be shocked to see the stock price in the mid to low 20's over the next 5 years killing at least another generation or two of employees stock. They only thing the company is good for is for dividend holders from 30 years ago and high level GM waiting until retirement not doing anything except drawing a gigantic bi-montly blue deposit.
 






My apologies. I forgot this forum is primarily occupied by disgruntled former reps. I was trying to make some reasonable points about Pfizer’s need to take record unforecasted sales and make more of the company than they have proven able to do.

My points and yours are not dissimilar, you just want to rant. Be well.
 






have some pudding and a take a nap.
PFE booked record revenues in 2022 and it appears the only plan is to cut costs and buy assets. I am perfectly fine for that cost cutting to look at the top heavy layers that you reference.

Stock is anchored in the mid $30 range, a few bumps up and retreats back. I am only looking for PFE to communicate their plan to capitalize on record revenues and breakout to new price levels.

In 2022 we pulled in dozens of BILLIONS thanks to a once-in-a-lifetime financial windfall, where we spent nary a dollar on marketing, PR, media, field force headcount and expenses.
You'd think that stock would FINALLY tick over the mid $30 range (where it's stood, more or less for past 20 years).

Herein lies the problem. Our leadership has been, and will continue to be, amongst the worst in the industry. You want proof? I beg you to show me another top-10 pharma company with similar performance since G Dubya Bush's first term. As another poster noted, we buy some companies, bring over very few if any of their leadership, FINALLY promote our mid level hacks that were repeatedly passed over for some lower to mid level job...and then watch the newly promoted senior leader with no experience stable and fumble their way around for 5 years or so.
 






My apologies. I forgot this forum is primarily occupied by disgruntled former reps. I was trying to make some reasonable points about Pfizer’s need to take record unforecasted sales and make more of the company than they have proven able to do.

My points and yours are not dissimilar, you just want to rant. Be well.

We weren't the ones being passive aggressive... You were.. You were the one saying.. "have some pudding, take a nap and something about elderly way before anything. As soon as it comes back at ya...all of a sudden UR Mr. I'm hurt and want to point fingers that we are ranting... point is... that was you too. Typical PFE baby...
 






My apologies. I forgot this forum is primarily occupied by disgruntled former reps. I was trying to make some reasonable points about Pfizer’s need to take record unforecasted sales and make more of the company than they have proven able to do.

My points and yours are not dissimilar, you just want to rant. Be well.

"Disgruntled former reps". Bwa hah hah hah!

If that's the case, why waste your time here?